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Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on October 02, 2025, 10:24:03 AMSo all should be welcomed and loved as our neighbor.   As Jesus said.

Depends on skin color and wealth, imo
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 10:08:36 AMWe are all immigrants.
Not knowing who is in this country is a different story.
Is this pretzel logic for you?

That's what the census is for. 

There is no national requirement for an ID card.

Your immigrant family was likely allowed in just as most were by signing a book and proving they weren't sick, and showing up on the door step of the US.  And they were let in almost without question.

Now it's decades of legal limbo, bureaucracy, court dates and tests.

A lot of people conveniently forget how easy it used to be to immigrate to the US until just over 100 years ago.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 02, 2025, 07:35:06 AMhttps://youtu.be/VQPlP3jQpGw?si=5zXznnzsbxu71tYI&t=81

Couldn't find the original, but this interview sort of speaks for itself, aina?

Channeling Rico ...

As an evangelical Christian, I'm happy to accept Peter Thiel's financial support for my vision of an apocalyptic theocracy.
Also as an evangelical Christian, I reject the validity of Peter Thiel's marriage and am certain he will be condemned to hell for his sinful lifestyle.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 10:08:36 AMWe are all immigrants.
Not knowing who is in this country is a different story.
Is this pretzel logic for you?

So rounding up people based on their skin color is A OKAY then?

MU82

#1754
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 10:08:36 AMWe are all immigrants.
Not knowing who is in this country is a different story.
Is this pretzel logic for you?

The Supreme Court recently gave the government permission to racially profile people. You don't even have to be suspected of a crime to be arrested, detained, denied phone calls for hours (or days), denied due process.

If you are overheard speaking Spanish - or even if you "look" Hispanic - you can be arrested without cause or warrant.

Dozens (at least) of U.S. citizens - including veterans and minors - have been arrested, detained and denied due process just for committing the apparently heinous crime of looking or sounding Spanish.

And tens of millions of people who claim to follow Jesus (not to mention tens of millions of Americans who don't seem to care about the Constitution) applaud all of it.

Pretzel logic.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

NCMUFan

I walked out of a Sears once.  The store security wanted to see what I purchased and I let him search it. Another time I was driving from my YMCA to local grocery store and was stopped by police or sheriff who wanted to see my drivers license.  Am I crying racial or some other profiling?  I just gave him the information they wanted and was on my way.  You D bags will be the first to cry how citizen protection was lax when something happens in this country.

The Sultan

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:07:29 AMI walked out of a Sears once.  The store security wanted to see what I purchased and I let him search it. Another time I was driving from my YMCA to local grocery store and was stopped by police or sheriff who wanted to see my drivers license.  Am I crying racial or some other profiling?  I just gave him the information they wanted and was on my way.  You D bags will be the first to cry how citizen protection was lax when something happens in this country.


Why did the police stop you?

And you sound like the most out of touch, old, white man who ever existed. Congrats on that.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

NCMUFan

Quote from: The Sultan on October 02, 2025, 11:13:58 AMWhy did the police stop you?

And you sound like the most out of touch, old, white man who ever existed. Congrats on that.
Ask the police sad sad Sultan.

The Sultan

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:20:52 AMAsk the police sad sad Sultan.

So they pulled you over for no reason other than to see your driver's license? That's not legal. They need to have probable cause that you committed a crime or a traffic violation.

Why are you OK with that?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

NCMUFan

I do not know the police rules and what they were trying to accomplish.  My life is way too busy to let a 5 minute delay be an issue.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:26:16 AMI do not know the police rules and what they were trying to accomplish.  My life is way too busy to let a 5 minute delay be an issue.

Huh
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:26:16 AMI do not know the police rules and what they were trying to accomplish.  My life is way too busy to let a 5 minute delay be an issue.


The Sultan

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:26:16 AMI do not know the police rules and what they were trying to accomplish.  My life is way too busy to let a 5 minute delay be an issue.

I see how we have gotten into the mess we have. "As long as it doesn't significantly impact me, I am fine it."

You shouldn't be.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

NCMUFan


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:07:29 AMI walked out of a Sears once.  The store security wanted to see what I purchased and I let him search it. Another time I was driving from my YMCA to local grocery store and was stopped by police or sheriff who wanted to see my drivers license.  Am I crying racial or some other profiling?  I just gave him the information they wanted and was on my way.  You D bags will be the first to cry how citizen protection was lax when something happens in this country.

That is exactly like being tackled, handcuffed, and dragged away to an ICE detention facility because of the color of your skin while the President of the United States refers to you as disease-infested rapist.

How did you ever get over the trauma?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Pakuni


Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:07:29 AMI walked out of a Sears once.  The store security wanted to see what I purchased and I let him search it. Another time I was driving from my YMCA to local grocery store and was stopped by police or sheriff who wanted to see my drivers license.  Am I crying racial or some other profiling?  I just gave him the information they wanted and was on my way.  You D bags will be the first to cry how citizen protection was lax when something happens in this country.


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
― Benjamin Franklin

#UnleashSean

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:26:16 AMI do not know the police rules and what they were trying to accomplish.  My life is way too busy to let a 5 minute delay be an issue.

Seek help. The lead has destroyed a lot of your brain.


Im also not kidding. Its prevalent in people above 70

NCMUFan


tower912

Something HAS/IS happening to our country.  We are raging against the dying of the light.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 02, 2025, 11:38:01 AM"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
― Benjamin Franklin
Ben was a patriot no doubt.
I believe essential liberty is what Ben was talking about.  And we were talking about a revolutionary war where the majority of colonists were sideliners or Tory.

tower912

Read the declaration of independence.  Check out what they were rebelling against.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on October 02, 2025, 11:51:47 AMRead the declaration of independence.  Check out what they were rebelling against.

As an evangelical Christian, I'm amazed at how many people forget the United States was founded to keep us from falling under the Papacy
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

NCMUFan

Quote from: tower912 on October 02, 2025, 11:51:47 AMRead the declaration of independence.  Check out what they were rebelling against.
I am not questioning whether the founding fathers had legitimate reasons to revolt.  I am just saying, the majority of colonists wanted nothing to do with it or sided with the British.

MU82

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:07:29 AMI walked out of a Sears once.  The store security wanted to see what I purchased and I let him search it. Another time I was driving from my YMCA to local grocery store and was stopped by police or sheriff who wanted to see my drivers license.  Am I crying racial or some other profiling?  I just gave him the information they wanted and was on my way.  You D bags will be the first to cry how citizen protection was lax when something happens in this country.

I am sorry to hear that masked police officers looked at the color of your skin and listened to your accent, then threw you to the ground without even asking you any questions, handcuffed you, threw you into an unmarked van, drove you to a detention center, threw you into a cell, booked you, denied you a phone call, and held you for hours (if not days) without due process.

That must have been very traumatic for you.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: NCMUFan on October 02, 2025, 11:07:29 AMI walked out of a Sears once.  The store security wanted to see what I purchased and I let him search it. Another time I was driving from my YMCA to local grocery store and was stopped by police or sheriff who wanted to see my drivers license.  Am I crying racial or some other profiling?  I just gave him the information they wanted and was on my way.  You D bags will be the first to cry how citizen protection was lax when something happens in this country.
It's a good thing you are white.

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