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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on September 23, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
My point...

https://twitter.com/matt_rodewald/status/646770013177802752

And...

Erie County Commissioner of Central Police Services John Glascott also said his department, which handles evidence analyis, followed all proper procedures and that all of the evidence was accounted for.

Glascott said in a statement: "All evidence related to this case that was given to Erie County Central Police Services by the Town of Hamburg Police Department is accounted for and remains in its original packaging in the possession of Erie County Central Police Services. This includes the evidence in the rape kit and the packaging itself. This evidence has been analyzed and reports of that analysis sent to the appropriate agencies."


Beyond strange. Also probably not difficult to prove.

Extremely unlikely that any charges will be filed. That was always the case whether he's guilty or not. This thing today almost feels like a Hail Mary by accuser's attorney.

Now belief among some that "evidence" being dropped off was a horrible practical joke.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on September 23, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Now belief among some that "evidence" being dropped off was a horrible practical joke.

So odd.  Pretty much if his presser was about a punk'd, you can kiss any major cash settlement good-bye

ChicosBailBonds


Jay Bee

Quote from: PTM on September 22, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
These leaked DNA reports are not looking good for the accuser. No Kane around the lady parts, but up to two other DNAs?

bukakke, a'inal?
The portal is NOT closed.

GGGG

Well.  The accuser's attorney has quit due to "misrepresentations" about the evidence bag. I think this ends soon.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 24, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Well.  The accuser's attorney has quit due to "misrepresentations" about the evidence bag. I think this ends soon.

That was so dumb. This thing has been a cluster f*uck

jesmu84

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 24, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Well.  The accuser's attorney has quit due to "misrepresentations" about the evidence bag. I think this ends soon.

And some sort of weird misinformation by the accuser's mother. Strange.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 24, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Well.  The accuser's attorney has quit due to "misrepresentations" about the evidence bag. I think this ends soon.

So, is it possible he's really innocent? From the beginning I said something didn't feel right, but I just didn't know what, and still came down on the side of he probably did it. Now, at the very least, it sure seems like those initial instincts were justified.

I have to admit also that the complete radio silence from the police/DA throughout, coupled with the delay in the grand jury, etc. had me wondering if the accuser herself was not possibly being investigated for possible  charges of filing a false claim, obstruction, or whatever the offense would be. I think that is a long shot still, but the way this thing has gone...

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on September 24, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Well.  The accuser's attorney has quit due to "misrepresentations" about the evidence bag. I think this ends soon.

BTW, could this attorney possibly make himself  look like a bigger dumbass by stopping off for a press conference before bringing this evidence bag to authorities (as someone may have correctly pointed out yesterday afternoon).

🏀

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on September 24, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
BTW, could this attorney possibly make himself  look like a bigger dumbass by stopping off for a press conference before bringing this evidence bag to authorities (as someone may have correctly pointed out yesterday afternoon).

Guy was had. Big time. Otherwise, he wouldn't have outed the girl.

jsglow

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on September 24, 2015, 09:46:46 PM
So, is it possible he's really innocent? From the beginning I said something didn't feel right, but I just didn't know what, and still came down on the side of he probably did it. Now, at the very least, it sure seems like those initial instincts were justified.

I have to admit also that the complete radio silence from the police/DA throughout, coupled with the delay in the grand jury, etc. had me wondering if the accuser herself was not possibly being investigated for possible  charges of filing a false claim, obstruction, or whatever the offense would be. I think that is a long shot still, but the way this thing has gone...

You just might be on to something here.  Anyway, pretty sure that criminal charges against Kane aren't coming and also thinking that he'll be in no mood to settle anything with a check.  I still think it's likely that he behaved badly in some way that night at a minimum allowing a situation to escalate to a point where bad things could happen (getting absolutely plastered and inviting girls to a house post party when he should know he has a target on his back).  But I'm increasingly convinced that the most serious charges against him aren't true.  I wouldn't have said that in early August when this was first reported.

Dr. Blackheart

DA has a presser this AM. Stay tuned.

MerrittsMustache

The accuser's mom who's a nurse planted the evidence bag? Did I hear that correctly?

Also, the girl's friend is now hesitant to testify because her memories of the evening aren't completely clear. Odd, odd situation all the way around.

At this point, I truly hope that Kane did absolutely nothing wrong because he's not going to be charged. It would be a shame if this girl truly was assaulted but had her case basically "sabotaged" by those closest to her.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 25, 2015, 07:30:26 AM
DA has a presser this AM. Stay tuned.

Eh. Let me sum that one up for you right now..."we can confirm that all evidence in the on-going sexual assault investigation has been and remains properly stored and documented, and there is no indication of any evidence tampering whatsoever. We have begun an investigation into the situation, and as a result we will have no further comment. As to the investigation into the sexual assault allegations, that remains an on-going investigation, and we have no additional comment. Thank you for coming, you're free to ask questions I won't answer."

Exactly how it should be handled, but nothing significant likley to come out of it.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on September 25, 2015, 07:50:38 AM

At this point, I truly hope that Kane did absolutely nothing wrong because he's not going to be charged. It would be a shame if this girl truly was assaulted but had her case basically "sabotaged" by those closest to her.

Boy, you said it. Criminal charges were unlikely from the start, but now forget about it. At this point I think even a civil suit is unlikely, so with no trial of any kind, the public is left to draw their own conclusions based on media accounts (which have been awful from the start), and there isn't a winner in the bunch.

jsglow

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on September 25, 2015, 08:07:16 AM
Boy, you said it. Criminal charges were unlikely from the start, but now forget about it. At this point I think even a civil suit is unlikely, so with no trial of any kind, the public is left to draw their own conclusions based on media accounts (which have been awful from the start), and there isn't a winner in the bunch.

Totally agree.  And as a Blackhawks fan I think it's important not to hold a grudge against Kane.  It's entirely possible that nothing particularly bad happened that directly involved him.  Unfortunately, he has a reputation that's a bit hard to shake.  He's already apologized for being a distraction.  Perhaps that's enough. 

MerrittsMustache

The accuser changed her top before going to the hospital. A bag was sent home with her and her mother, in which they were supposed to put the top she wore during the alleged assault and return it to the hospital. Instead, an officer went to the home to retrieve the shirt but used a different bag. 6+ weeks later, the mother planted the bag at her own house as evidence of tampering?!

IMO, either the mother 1) learned her daughter was lying and tried to help out in an incredibly, incredibly stupid way or 2) worried that they wouldn't get a fair trial and tried to help her traumatized daughter's case in an incredibly, incredibly stupid way.


brandx

Quote from: jsglow on September 25, 2015, 08:22:33 AM
Totally agree.  And as a Blackhawks fan I think it's important not to hold a grudge against Kane.  It's entirely possible that nothing particularly bad happened that directly involved him.  Unfortunately, he has a reputation that's a bit hard to shake.  He's already apologized for being a distraction.  Perhaps that's enough.

I, too, am a Blackhawks fan, but I don't know if I want to be part of this group anymore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/julie-dicaro-twitter-threats-patrick-kane_5605b532e4b0af3706dc5210?cps=gravity_5053_-4295235193091985349



ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: PTM on September 25, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Everyone has idiots

It's the racist sweaters that need to be stopped

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 26, 2015, 06:12:50 PM
It's the racist sweaters that need to be stopped

Speaking of idiotic statements.....

JWags85


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