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Big Daddy 84

On vacation   JJ knows Austin from Aau but not friends.  This is wojos guy
To real in. Biggest obstacle is time. With Italy trip coming up. Time is limited.  Tennessee being out is a good thing. 

brandx

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 03:13:50 PM
On vacation   JJ knows Austin from Aau but not friends.  This is wojos guy
To real in. Biggest obstacle is time. With Italy trip coming up. Time is limited.  Tennessee being out is a good thing. 


Short sentences. Easy to read. Don't mind. At all.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 03:13:50 PM
On vacation   JJ knows Austin from Aau but not friends.  This is wojos guy
To real in. Biggest obstacle is time. With Italy trip coming up. Time is limited.  Tennessee being out is a good thing. 

Does not friends mean mutually respectful competitors? Or they don't get along?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MUfan12

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 09, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
Does not friends mean mutually respectful competitors? Or they don't get along?

Probably just acquaintances. I wouldn't read into it.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 09, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
Does not friends mean mutually respectful competitors? Or they don't get along?

Lol was my initial thought as well.

Assuming just means they don't actually hangout or talk. But worded so that you could think they have a so called "beef".
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 03:13:50 PM
On vacation   JJ knows Austin from Aau but not friends.  This is wojos guy
To real in. Biggest obstacle is time. With Italy trip coming up. Time is limited.  Tennessee being out is a good thing. 

How much of this should we believe?  Remember the Lee/Miller post!

withoutbias

Quote from: Heisenberg on July 09, 2015, 03:45:35 PM
How much of this should we believe?  Remember the Lee/Miller post!

what is there to not believe in this post?  lol.

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Quote from: Heisenberg on July 09, 2015, 03:45:35 PM
How much of this should we believe?  Remember the Lee/Miller post!

He wasn't wrong in his Lee/Miller post; people who read that post as done deal were the ones who were wrong.
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Quote from: Heisenberg on July 09, 2015, 03:45:35 PM
How much of this should we believe?  Remember the Lee/Miller post!

There's not much here to "believe." He's not predicting anything.

I appreciate the info he did offer.
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Big Daddy 84

I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 

JJJ has no issues with Austin, there are just not friends.  I am out of town so I did just talk with one staff member who gave me his thoughts.  The upside in this situation is that Wojo is the one with the relationship.  As I said in the previous post the fact that Tennessee is out is a big factor. 

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 

JJJ has no issues with Austin, there are just not friends.  I am out of town so I did just talk with one staff member who gave me his thoughts.  The upside in this situation is that Wojo is the one with the relationship.  As I said in the previous post the fact that Tennessee is out is a big factor. 

Cool man. You don't got defend anything. Vast majority here love to know what you know.

Right or wrong. Good to get some info.
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 

JJJ has no issues with Austin, there are just not friends.  I am out of town so I did just talk with one staff member who gave me his thoughts.  The upside in this situation is that Wojo is the one with the relationship.  As I said in the previous post the fact that Tennessee is out is a big factor. 

No need to defend anything. Appreciate your insights as always. Good that Wojo has a relationship. Hopefully his bloodhound drive does good things for us again.
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Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 

JJJ has no issues with Austin, there are just not friends.  I am out of town so I did just talk with one staff member who gave me his thoughts.  The upside in this situation is that Wojo is the one with the relationship.  As I said in the previous post the fact that Tennessee is out is a big factor. 

No worries Big Daddy.  I thought the same thing about JFB when Wes Matthews dominated him at that first midnight madness.  At the time I had no idea I was watching two future NBA starters.

Appreciate the info.  Always glad to read what you post.

Loose Cannon



Thanks Big Daddy, your posts are the ones I look to first.  I always thought that our posts were our resume, and I certainly think yours are most outstanding.
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Tugg Speedman

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 

JJJ has no issues with Austin, there are just not friends.  I am out of town so I did just talk with one staff member who gave me his thoughts.  The upside in this situation is that Wojo is the one with the relationship.  As I said in the previous post the fact that Tennessee is out is a big factor. 

BD

You don't have to defend your record.  You are conduit to the coaching staff.  I've always believe you accurately portrayed what they say/think.

So at the risk of the trolls fighting and intentionally misreading what I'm saying to start an argument, let me highlight two post from late April. 

Question for BD, what happened with Miller and Lee?  Your post did not seem to square with the reality just a few days later.  And because Wojo did not land any other graduate transfer, did he misjudge?

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http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=47441.msg725580#msg725580

Big Daddy wrote ...

3) Damien Lee is the #1 target and they do have a commitment for a visit in early May, just not a date. They know exactly when he is visiting the other schools and like that they are the last one to be visited. There is a relationship between DL and one of the staff and  there is mutual interest and communication.  They expect that Lee will come for a visit..did not seem to be too concerned that he will commit before visiting.
4) Miller is #2 target and again there is mutual interest, but I got the impression that they actually feel better about Lee than Miller.

I'm not concerned that we lost DL.  I'm concerned how we lost him.  It is apparent that we were never really an option for him.  He did not come for a visit.  We were probably his safety school.

What is concerning is what BD said above.  The coaching staff had as their #1 target someone that wasn't a realistic option.  They were not concerned about him committing before he visits when they should have been concerned about exactly that.  Had he visited, considered and then picked something else it would have been better than what actually happened.  At least if he visited we were a serious option and not a safety school.

Similarly option #2 (Miller) was someone that was also not a realistic option.  Again we were merely a safety school and the coaching staff thought we were more than that.

Should we be concerned that the coaching staff is having a hard time gauging interest?  If so, does this matter?  Tell me where I'm wrong.


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Quote from: brewcity77 on April 25, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
So did Wojo never have a shot? I doubt that. I do believe they got positive feedback from Lee's camp, which got them in this position in the first place. This is just another litmus test for a young staff. Will they still be able to land two grad transfers like they were hoping for or do they have a JUCO ready to commit? Or are they moving on to 2016/17, which is where efforts seemed to be this week?

Quote from: warriorfan 14 on April 25, 2015, 07:54:31 AM
the only thing i am concerned about is hoping that wojo had a plan after losing out on miller and lee

And this is another thing that has me concerned.  Big Daddy also said this ...

5) After that the top targets are two JUCO players.  Plan 1 is Lee and Miller, plan #2 is lee or miller and 1 JUco  plan 2 - two Jucos.  We are not heavily recruiting any other HS seniors.

BD wrote that 8 days ago (April 17).  So are we to believe that in just a week plan 1 is gone, plan 2 is gone. plan 3 (two jucos) is now gone and we are on to recruiting HS kids, which according to BD 8 days ago we not not heavily doing?

When you plan, that means one of these options is going to happen.  Plan 1 is supposed to be the most likely, #2 next most likely.  They were not goals, or ideals or scenarios, they were plans.

Again, what I'm assuming is BD accurately and correctly conveyed what the coaches are thinking.  Because if he did, I'm concerned that the coaches are busy making plans that are not happening.  Put bluntly, they are not sizing up situations properly.

NotAnAlum

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 


Big Daddy you don't have to defend anything.  Your info is 100 times for relevant than most of what gets posted here.  Keep it coming.
I had to quote the JFB part.  I saw him at the first Haunted Hoops scrimmage and he looked totally lost, deer in the headlights.  I said to my buddy that night "I don't think we'll get much out of that kid".  By Spring of that season Jimmy had already proven me completely wrong and from there on its just been wronger and wronger.  Sometimes its great to be wrong.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Heisenberg on July 10, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
It is apparent that we were never really an option for him.

Here is where your POV is flawed and is what is causing other's to dismiss you. You state an opinion as if it is fact. When the reality is, everyone close to situation agrees that we were a top option for Lee. Lee went to Louisville and got blown away by Pitino's pitch. It happens. Blue bloods often have that effect on recruits. It does not mean that we weren't an option, it just means Louisville did an amazing job on his visit.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Quote from: Heisenberg on July 10, 2015, 10:39:02 AM

So at the risk of the trolls fighting and intentionally misreading what I'm saying to start an argument, let me highlight two post from late April. 



keefe

Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  

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Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on July 09, 2015, 10:31:14 PM
I won't even bother to defend my record, I will let it speak for itself.  I had one huge error and that was big one for sure. That was when I first saw JFB play I thought he was a lost cause.  Today we see how exactly wrong I was on that one.  I laugh at myself on that one and I could not be happier that I was. 

JJJ has no issues with Austin, there are just not friends.  I am out of town so I did just talk with one staff member who gave me his thoughts.  The upside in this situation is that Wojo is the one with the relationship.  As I said in the previous post the fact that Tennessee is out is a big factor. 

It happens. I have a friend who thought the Packers wasted a draft pick on Aaron Rodgers.

All of your information is much appreciated!
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Tugg Speedman

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 10, 2015, 11:28:30 AM
Here is where your POV is flawed and is what is causing other's to dismiss you. You state an opinion as if it is fact. When the reality is, everyone close to situation agrees that we were a top option for Lee. Lee went to Louisville and got blown away by Pitino's pitch. It happens. Blue bloods often have that effect on recruits. It does not mean that we weren't an option, it just means Louisville did an amazing job on his visit.

See the part where the coaching staff said they were not concerned we had nothing scheduled with Lee.  That was a mistake.  

And who have we signed snce Lee and Miller blew up (that can play next season)? No one?  So we are going into next season with 10 bodies.

I understand your POV that everything is fine.  But it appears that the coaches were banking on Lee or Miller or both (via BD post) and when both went elsewhere the coaching staff was left with their pants around their ankles.

We are going into this coming season with 10 bodies.  And HE and Luke are both recoverying from Surgery.  If we stay at 9 or 10 it's a moot point.  But if the injury or flu bug hit and we are down to 7 or 6, like last year, remember the botched attempt to get Lee and Miller with no backup plan.  This is where the season was lost.

swoopem

Quote from: Heisenberg on July 10, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
BD

You don't have to defend your record.  You are conduit to the coaching staff.  I've always believe you accurately portrayed what they say/think.

So at the risk of the trolls fighting and intentionally misreading what I'm saying to start an argument, let me highlight two post from late April. 

Question for BD, what happened with Miller and Lee?  Your post did not seem to square with the reality just a few days later.  And because Wojo did not land any other graduate transfer, did he misjudge?

----------------------

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=47441.msg725580#msg725580

Big Daddy wrote ...

3) Damien Lee is the #1 target and they do have a commitment for a visit in early May, just not a date. They know exactly when he is visiting the other schools and like that they are the last one to be visited. There is a relationship between DL and one of the staff and  there is mutual interest and communication.  They expect that Lee will come for a visit..did not seem to be too concerned that he will commit before visiting.
4) Miller is #2 target and again there is mutual interest, but I got the impression that they actually feel better about Lee than Miller.

I'm not concerned that we lost DL.  I'm concerned how we lost him.  It is apparent that we were never really an option for him.  He did not come for a visit.  We were probably his safety school.

What is concerning is what BD said above.  The coaching staff had as their #1 target someone that wasn't a realistic option.  They were not concerned about him committing before he visits when they should have been concerned about exactly that.  Had he visited, considered and then picked something else it would have been better than what actually happened.  At least if he visited we were a serious option and not a safety school.

Similarly option #2 (Miller) was someone that was also not a realistic option.  Again we were merely a safety school and the coaching staff thought we were more than that.

Should we be concerned that the coaching staff is having a hard time gauging interest?  If so, does this matter?  Tell me where I'm wrong.


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Quote from: brewcity77 on April 25, 2015, 06:54:43 AM
So did Wojo never have a shot? I doubt that. I do believe they got positive feedback from Lee's camp, which got them in this position in the first place. This is just another litmus test for a young staff. Will they still be able to land two grad transfers like they were hoping for or do they have a JUCO ready to commit? Or are they moving on to 2016/17, which is where efforts seemed to be this week?

Quote from: warriorfan 14 on April 25, 2015, 07:54:31 AM
the only thing i am concerned about is hoping that wojo had a plan after losing out on miller and lee

And this is another thing that has me concerned.  Big Daddy also said this ...

5) After that the top targets are two JUCO players.  Plan 1 is Lee and Miller, plan #2 is lee or miller and 1 JUco  plan 2 - two Jucos.  We are not heavily recruiting any other HS seniors.

BD wrote that 8 days ago (April 17).  So are we to believe that in just a week plan 1 is gone, plan 2 is gone. plan 3 (two jucos) is now gone and we are on to recruiting HS kids, which according to BD 8 days ago we not not heavily doing?

When you plan, that means one of these options is going to happen.  Plan 1 is supposed to be the most likely, #2 next most likely.  They were not goals, or ideals or scenarios, they were plans.

Again, what I'm assuming is BD accurately and correctly conveyed what the coaches are thinking.  Because if he did, I'm concerned that the coaches are busy making plans that are not happening.  Put bluntly, they are not sizing up situations properly.


Dude you have a Ners like obsession with calling out and beefing with the best poster on this board. Chill out man, the guy shared some info and sh!t ended up going another way. It happens. 
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