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What kind of production will we see from Duane Wilson in 2015-16

17 ppg 6 assists All Big East
15 ppg 4 assists
12ppg 3 assists
10 ppg 2 assists
Reinjures his hand and out for year

Herman Cain

What kind of production will we see from Duane in the coming year. Do you think he will have a break out season.
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PGsHeroes32

He's definitely going to score around 15 a game.

The assists/efficiency will be a key variable
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Loose Cannon



I think the 12 will be attainable,  the assists will be more difficult. 
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PBRme

If he is not getting 5 assists he will not have the opportunity for 12 points
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I think he's going to be playing the 2, especially in conference play so his assists will be less critical.  I do think he will be our leading scorer.
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Quote from: mu03eng on June 20, 2015, 07:14:08 AM
I think he's going to be playing the 2, especially in conference play so his assists will be less critical.  I do think he will be our leading scorer.
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Skatastrophy

Quote from: Loose Cannon on June 19, 2015, 10:16:27 PM
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The only place this word is used on the entire internet is on MUScoop, and it  was used 65,000 times here. Does anyone have an explanation for what I assume is an autoreplace filter for 'attainable' that got out of whack?

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Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 20, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
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Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 20, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
The only place this word is used on the entire internet is on MUScoop, and it  was used 65,000 times here. Does anyone have an explanation for what I assume is an autoreplace filter for 'attrightble' that got out of whack?

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Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 20, 2015, 08:28:30 AM
The only place this word is used on the entire internet is on MUScoop, and it  was used 65,000 times here. Does anyone have an explanation for what I assume is an autoreplace filter for 'attrightble' that got out of whack?

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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on June 20, 2015, 08:45:39 AM
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This has been one of our more amusing censored words - has created much confusion.  If people would stop pretending it's a real word, we wouldn't have this much fun.

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People always overestimate assist numbers in college. The average starting PG usually averages between 2.5 and 3.5 assists per game.
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Skatastrophy

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 20, 2015, 12:05:28 PM
People always overestimate assist numbers in college. The average starting PG usually averages between 2.5 and 3.5 assists per game.

Derrick Wilson averaged 4.2 and 4.7 his Junior and Senior years respectively.

Junior Cadougan averaged 5.35 and 3.8 his Junior and Sernior years, respectively.

Dominic James averaged 4.4 and 5.0 his Junior and Senior years, respectively.

We aren't shooting for the NCAA average here (I hope).

WarriorInNYC

I think Duane will be very capable of averaging around 15 ppg but I'm not sure if he will get there depending on how some of the others perform.  With Henry, Luke, and hopefully a much improved JJJ, I think he averages around 11-12, with the occasional games where he blows up.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Was talking to a Badger fan yesterday and he said he was actually really excited to see  Henry and Duane play together. On that same note, I also met someone who grew up in the same cul de sac as Wes Matthews. Small world.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 19, 2015, 09:28:06 PM
What kind of production will we see from Duane in the coming year. Do you think he will have a break out season.

I think that the assumption that number of assists he gets goes up with the number of points he scores is off.
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Quote from: LittleWade on June 20, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
I think that the assumption that number of assists he gets goes up with the number of points he scores is off.

Correct.  Scoring and assists are inversely related.  On any given possession, if Duane shoots he cannot get an assist and if he passes he cannot score.

brewcity77

Quote from: LittleWade on June 20, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
I think that the assumption that number of assists he gets goes up with the number of points he scores is off.

I think that assumption is a logical one. While I understand the inverse relationship, the reality is that with both Derrick and Carlino gone, Duane will be both expected and required to dominate the ball. That will give him the chance to both score and provide more than he did as a freshman.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Just remember everyone. Correlation does not imply causation.

Jay Bee

Duane's usage last year was robust at 24.5%, with an even higher %Shots of 26%. Normally, I'm looking at that to grow and would be concerned that more than a small (~2%-ish) increase in usage could hamper his ability to meaningfully improve his ORtg...

However.. I think there are more scoring options for the team next year, including a hefty-usage expectation for Henry. Much different team look.

I'd enjoy a similar usage in 2015-16, with a small increase in assist rate, small decrease in turnover rate... then there's some decent room to elevate his 2FG% and some room to boost his 3FG%...

Furthermore, I could see his 3FGA/FGA increase (i.e., more of his shots come from behind the arc)... if he shoots the same as last season or better, this would have the effect of putting up a better eFG% and thus we see a nice overall improvement on the ORtg.

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Sorry for not sticking with the PPG, APG metrics, but I rarely pay those any attention...

But, the above is the recipe for his improvement I think... the other possibility is that he plays a good deal of point and the assist rate takes off to 25-27%... but I think he might eat most when spotting up for triples in 2015-16.
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GGGG

Quote from: Hauser's Headband on June 20, 2015, 05:23:29 PM
Correct.  Scoring and assists are inversely related.  On any given possession, if Duane shoots he cannot get an assist and if he passes he cannot score.

You are assuming he's going to shoot the ball at the same percentage as he did the year prior.


Quote from: Jay Bee on June 20, 2015, 07:18:58 PM
Duane's usage last year was robust at 24.5%, with an even higher %Shots of 26%. Normally, I'm looking at that to grow and would be concerned that more than a small (~2%-ish) increase in usage could hamper his ability to meaningfully improve his ORtg...

However.. I think there are more scoring options for the team next year, including a hefty-usage expectation for Henry. Much different team look.

I'd enjoy a similar usage in 2015-16, with a small increase in assist rate, small decrease in turnover rate... then there's some decent room to elevate his 2FG% and some room to boost his 3FG%...

Furthermore, I could see his 3FGA/FGA increase (i.e., more of his shots come from behind the arc)... if he shoots the same as last season or better, this would have the effect of putting up a better eFG% and thus we see a nice overall improvement on the ORtg.


Yes, I think is probably the best way to look at it.  One year more experience means he could shoot better, turn the ball over less, and potentially increase both his ppg and his apg while still maintaining the same usage.


withoutbias

Quote from: LittleWade on June 20, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
I think that the assumption that number of assists he gets goes up with the number of points he scores is off.

'xactly what i was thinkin

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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 20, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
You are assuming he's going to shoot the ball at the same percentage as he did the year prior.


It's something that interesting to speculate on.  The argument against would point out that there should be much more scoring action inside with the opposition having to concentrate on two inside threats with Luke and Henry.  Yes, Henry's a stretch four, but I'm guessing he's going to start games establishing himself inside so that other teams have to cover him with a big that he can then take with him outside the paint.  And Henry when he gets outside would replace some of that perimeter scoring from Carlino.

The argument for Duane shooting at an increased percentage would be that he has to maintain what he provided last year. plus make up for some of Carlino's lost production.  Moderated by whatever increase comes from as a pleasant surprise from JjJ or Cohen or as a pleasant shock from Wally.
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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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