Freshmen starting to arrive - Anim to wear #2, Cheatham to wear #24

[ATL MU Warrior]

Have any of the Freshmen been spotted in a boot yet?

[GooooMarquette]

Why is everyone so worked up about Cheatham wearing Thompson's number, but not about Anim wearing Dawson's?

[keefe]

Jerel doesn't come close to fillin' George's jockstrap, ai na?

Or Chones', or Larry McNeill's, or Lucky Lloyd's, or The Dream's...

[manny31]

There is truth in what you say.  And both Butch and Bo had each other during what was an incredible 8-10 year run.  But do understand that Mu was truly elite back then.  One of the top 5-6 programs in the country, every year.  Anyway, we're lucky they were all Warriors.

I have to respectfully disagree with the Colonel and the Glows on this issue. I am usually inclined to defer to tradition but as others have mentioned I love the new tradition that includes the new players learning the history and tradition of their number. How about we have an hour long special, pre-midnight madness special in which players get to meet their former jersey wearers... cut right to the dunk contest. Another possibility is that a player has to earn his jersey(I don't know how we will determine that) maybe Senior year Haniff gets #24. No disrespect intended to all those who have gone before but I hope we are in for era that if we don't figure out something  we will run out of numbers. Ring Out Ahoya!

[jsglow]

I have to respectfully disagree with the Colonel and the Glows on this issue. I am usually inclined to defer to tradition but as others have mentioned I love the new tradition that includes the new players learning the history and tradition of their number. How about we have an hour long special, pre-midnight madness special in which players get to meet their former jersey wearers... cut right to the dunk contest. Another possibility is that a player has to earn his jersey(I don't know how we will determine that) maybe Senior year Haniff gets #24. No disrespect intended to all those who have gone before but I hope we are in for era that if we don't figure out something  we will run out of numbers. Ring Out Ahoya!

I love those traditions as well and have said that I could support a retired jersey policy.  We can debate whether a higher level retired number category should also exist.  If so, GT is candidate#1.

[77ncaachamps]

Other schools and their retired numbers:

http://www.shupirates.com/trads/seha-retired-numbers.html

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205008349

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA_Bruins_men's_basketball_retired_numbers

http://www.hokiesports.com/mbasketball/players/

[MU82]

I can't bring myself to get too upset about Cheatham wearing No. 24.

But I am furious that Vander's number is gonna be worn by Anim!!!

[Galway Eagle]

I can't bring myself to get too upset about Cheatham wearing No. 24.

But I am furious that Vander's number is gonna be worn by Anim!!!

Not the one Vander was actually successful with so its ok

[ShootinOutWallsofHeartach]

When is a retired jersey "not" retired?    What does George think about this?

I'm surprised nobody has discussed George's work as an MU radio announcer alongside Steve True. I didn't appreciate their work at first, thought their broadcast was a bit "bumpy", but as they worked together for awhile, they got to be a great pair, and GT always had a few of his own Al-like descriptions. My favorite was during the @Tulane game in Wade's Jr year..Dwyane was just owning the Green Wave in every facet, he jukes a defender and unveils an awesome move through traffic to convert, and there's an awe-struck pause followed by George slapping a vintage '70s "ELECTROGLIDE!!" label on the play. 

[GooooMarquette]

George Thompson is easily ONE OF the best players in MU history, but I'm surprised at how many people view him as THE best.  We have one guy who was NPOY, one guy who was Final Four MOP, and one guy who almost single-handedly pulled off the biggest upset in Olympic basketball history.  And they're all the same guy.

George was huge.  So were Bo, DWade, Chones and Meminger.  But they're all fighting for the second spot behind Butch.

[keefe]

George Thompson is easily ONE OF the best players in MU history, but I'm surprised at how many people view him as THE best.  We have one guy who was NPOY, one guy who was Final Four MOP, and one guy who almost single-handedly pulled off the biggest upset in Olympic basketball history.  And they're all the same guy.

George was huge.  So were Bo, DWade, Chones and Meminger.  But they're all fighting for the second spot behind Butch.

Butch? Butch Lee? Wasn't he the guy banging Gail Pudvan?

[4everwarriors]

Gail Pudvan, so hot! Want to touch the heine, ai na?

[Lennys Tap]

Jerel doesn't come close to fillin' George's jockstrap, ai na?

Not close is correct. Jerel was a really good player would had tons of PT given him from day1 and put up big numbers on a team that won one tournament game in 4 years. He's not in Geoge's class as a player. Or Meminger's, Bo's, Tatum's, Mo's, Butch's, etc.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I'd keep 77 retired, as well.

55 is the highest number acceptable in CBB. No 6-9 either

[TatumU]

As long as George is OK....I think it's good.  But I hope Wojo talked to him....might be a neat positive if he did

[dgies9156]

Back to basketball, I saw every player whose jersey is in the rafters play except for Don Kojis. That said, there are only five Marquette players whose contributions were so great that the "owner" decides who wears the jersey. The five players are:

George Thompson
Maurice Lucas
Bo Ellis
Butch Lee
Dwyane Wade

The two on the outside who also may be worthy are Dean Meminger and Glenn Rivers. The contribution all of these people made to our program and our prominence as a national power should be recognized forever. We also should continue to retire 77 for Al (even though it is not a usable number, for now).

These are the best of the best. No one else (except maybe Jim Chones) came close.

[Tums Festival]

1) if a number is already retired it should remain retired. That's what it means!
2) should we retire future numbers?  Probably not. Just the jersey with name and use as suggested here what Michigan football does - that is a great idea.

Michigan dropped the Legends jerseys soon after Brady Hoke was fired.

[Dr. Blackheart]

That dog don't hunt

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/29207369.html?ipad=y

[Warrior Code]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/29207369.html?ipad=y

11, huh? When was the list time MU had an 11?

[Dr. Blackheart]

11, huh? When was the list time MU had an 11?

Dr. Blackheart, 1968

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/jersey_numbers#section11

[wadesworld]

Don't have a dog in the fight either way as to whether numbers or jerseys or whatever should be retired and who is deserving of having something retired. But I guess I don't understand why someone would feel entitled to owning a number and be offended if a player wanted to wear that number. If it were me, I would look at it as a sign of respect if someone wanted to wear my number.

[GB Warrior]

First, the source of this issue is the fact that disallowing jersey numbers is dumb and restricts the pool of numbers. That said, retired is retired unless we're taking a wholesale different approach to the numbers. To that end, I hope that Wojo personally discussed with each of the individuals (or estates?) of his plans and that he intends to honor them as Michigan FB has recently.

Even if that is what has happened I would still be bummed to see another #3 in blue and gold.

[4everwarriors]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/29207369.html?ipad=y

Pat, kinda says it all, ai na?

[jsglow]

I guess my biggest problem is that no revision of the current program has been announced publicly.  I think everyone has a stake in this (mostly the retired players) and we should at least be informed about the change in policy.  This seems way horse before the cart to me.

Maybe this is what you get when our entire administration (Pres., AD, coach) has been around a year. IDK, maybe they should rename McCormick Hall too.  Nobody remembers who he is anyway.

[Sharpie]

Apparently diener reached out to GT in the past week or two about the #24.