Ners is right...

[79Warrior]

Nevermind.

Canned is right.  If Derrick is so bad, Duane should be able to take his minutes away.  He hasn't.  John Dawson didn't. 

But it's still Wojo's fault.    

Dawson is at Liberty. Enough said.

[mattyv1908]

Dawson is at Liberty. Enough said.

And McKay and Burton upgraded programs to Iowa State.  That says more about the state of MUBB than anything else.  Sad.

[Dawson Rental]

And McKay and Burton upgraded programs to Iowa State.  That says more about the state of MUBB than anything else.  Sad.

Mutual disappointment is in the future for Burton and Iowa State.

[mattyv1908]

Mutual disappointment is in the future for Burton and Iowa State.

Disappointment is relative.  They'll be disappointed when they get knocked out of the NCAAT the next couple of years while Scoop will disappointed Marquette will be watching the NCAAT from home.

[Nevada233]

Disappointment is relative.  They'll be disappointed when they get knocked out of the NCAAT the next couple of years while Scoop will disappointed Marquette will be watching the NCAAT from home.

+1

[mattyv1908]

When Iowa State is going to be a 3-4 seed in the NCAAT and Marquette is toiling away at 11-14 overall we now can definitively answer that indeed we are a stepping stone program.

[Dawson Rental]

Disappointment is relative.  They'll be disappointed when they get knocked out of the NCAAT the next couple of years while Scoop will disappointed Marquette will be watching the NCAAT from home.

You seem to be saying that Burton will be the difference in MU not making the tournament and in getting Iowas State into the tournament.  Both assertions are delusional.

[GGGG]

When Iowa State is going to be a 3-4 seed in the NCAAT and Marquette is toiling away at 11-14 overall we now can definitively answer that indeed we are a stepping stone program.

You have the attention span of a gnat.

This program won the old Big East Conference and was in the Elite 8 less than 24 months ago.  

[HutchwasClutch]

When Iowa State is going to be a 3-4 seed in the NCAAT and Marquette is toiling away at 11-14 overall we now can definitively answer that indeed we are a stepping stone program.

Here's what you should do mattyv, you're such an expert on everything wrong with our program with zero ideas on what you would do at this point as evidenced by our back and forth a couple of days ago, just throw in your hat as a Cyclone fan, worship McKay and Burton as the second coming, join whatever the Cyclone board is, and post how wonderful it is to be a fan of their program, and stop trolling this board with nonsense.  You can tell all your Cyclone fan buddies how much we suck in the meantime, and how lucky you are to have taken a guy like Burton away from us, and how enjoyable it is never to see him play any team defense, or pass to an open teammate. 

[jesmu84]

Disappointment is relative.  They'll be disappointed when they get knocked out of the NCAAT the next couple of years while Scoop will disappointed Marquette will be watching the NCAAT from home.

Are you even a MU fan? Any posts of yours that I've seen in the past were pretty objective and without emotion. This seems to be filled with vitriol. And doesn't seem to be in-line with someone who went to or is a fan of Marquette. Not saying you can't be a fan of some place and disagree or be disappointed with it, but this was just different from you.

[mattyv1908]

Are you even a MU fan? Any posts of yours that I've seen in the past were pretty objective and without emotion. This seems to be filled with vitriol. And doesn't seem to be in-line with someone who went to or is a fan of Marquette. Not saying you can't be a fan of some place and disagree or be disappointed with it, but this was just different from you.

It was made in response to Murs commenting on Iowa State and Burton and their impending disappointment.  The irony of a fan of Marquette currently in last place knocking another program on the upswing is what this comment was in reference to.

[mattyv1908]

You have the attention span of a gnat.

This program won the old Big East Conference and was in the Elite 8 less than 24 months ago.  

24 months in the world of college basketball is a long time Sultan.

[GGGG]

24 months in the world of college basketball is a long time Sultan.

How trite.

Marquette has seen a lot darker days than this year and has turned out just fine.  Marquette will be fine again. 

[mattyv1908]

You seem to be saying that Burton will be the difference in MU not making the tournament and in getting Iowas State into the tournament.  Both assertions are delusional.

I never suggested that at all.  I merely pointed out that if Dawson is judged for transferring to Liberty as being a downgrade that Burton and McKay should be viewed positively for going to a school that is currently much more successful.

[NersEllenson]

Without debating whether or not it actually happened, what sultan said is the same Damn thing you said, you just didn't read the damn sentence correctly. Sultan is saying the guards couldn't get through the pick so they had to switch, and then the guards couldn't guard who they had to switch to.

THAT is basketball 101, I dunked in high school Rob Lowe

Ahh no - Sultan did NOT say what I was saying.  Sultan was saying that Duane and JJJ couldn't get through the picks set, and as a result Luke had to help - and we then were left in a position of JJJ/Duane not being able to guard the big man left open due to Duane/JJJ not being able to get over/through the ball screen.

The problem with Sultan's analysis, per usual, is he's wrong:  JJJ and Duane were both getting "through" which is really a wrong term - you get "over" a screen.  Ironically, the one guy who did NOT get "over or through" a screen in the 4 minute sequence I re-watched (the two minutes before Derrick went out and the two minutes he was out) was actually Derrick! Derrick then had to guard their big.  The guard promptly dumped the ball to the big on the roll who easily turned to bank a shot off that glass that Luke had to goaltend.

The problem with our pick and roll defense against Creighton had NOTHING to do with Derrick Wilson being out of the game.  But, again, Sultan and the other bozos have their narrative to try to grasp to anything they possibly can to try to justify why Derrick Wilson is so valuable and necessary to have on the floor - because let's face it - there isn't anything in the boxscore that you can point to as to how he is so vital.

[GGGG]

Nevermind.

I suggest that Ners either learns how to read better or fix his television.

[mattyv1908]

How trite.

Marquette has seen a lot darker days than this year and has turned out just fine.  Marquette will be fine again. 

You just shifted the goal posts Sultan.

Seriously, in six more games we'll have only one player (Taylor) associated with the team that won a regular season conference title (different conference) under a different head coach.

[g0lden3agle]

Ahh no - Sultan did NOT say what I was saying.  Sultan was saying that Duane and JJJ couldn't get through the picks set, and as a result Luke had to help - and we then were left in a position of JJJ/Duane not being able to guard the big man left open due to Duane/JJJ not being able to get over/through the ball screen.

The problem with Sultan's analysis, per usual, is he's wrong:  JJJ and Duane were both getting "through" which is really a wrong term - you get "over" a screen.  Ironically, the one guy who did NOT get "over or through" a screen in the 4 minute sequence I re-watched (the two minutes before Derrick went out and the two minutes he was out) was actually Derrick! Derrick then had to guard their big.  The guard promptly dumped the ball to the big on the roll who easily turned to bank a shot off that glass that Luke had to goaltend.

The problem with our pick and roll defense against Creighton had NOTHING to do with Derrick Wilson being out of the game.  But, again, Sultan and the other bozos have their narrative to try to grasp to anything they possibly can to try to justify why Derrick Wilson is so valuable and necessary to have on the floor - because let's face it - there isn't anything in the boxscore that you can point to as to how he is so vital.

I don't know what to tell you if you don't think getting "through" a screen is a valid term. You can go over or under a screen, either way you gotta get through it in order to get back to your man and not force your big to switch and cause a size/speed mismatch.

[Johnny B]

All hail ners..................give me a dam break there's a thread on this clown every week. Ridiculous.

[jesmu84]

It was made in response to Murs commenting on Iowa State and Burton and their impending disappointment.  The irony of a fan of Marquette currently in last place knocking another program on the upswing is what this comment was in reference to.

Fair enough, makes sense. Carry on.

[real chili 83]

Rocky, can you open up a special deal for Ners like the political thread?

[Johnny B]

Rocky, can you open up a special deal for Ners like the political thread?

Nope appernetly ners is the face of Marquette basketball. Change this area to hangin with ners

[rocky_warrior]

Nope appernetly ners is the face of Marquette basketball. Change this area to hangin with ners

Huh? Giving him his own board would be less visibility?  More like...if everyone would ignore him.

[brandx]

But, again, Sultan and the other bozos have their narrative to try to grasp to anything they possibly can to try to justify why Derrick Wilson is so valuable and necessary to have on the floor - because let's face it - there isn't anything in the boxscore that you can point to as to how he is so vital.

Runaway early leader for most ironic post of the year?

[Johnny B]

Huh? Giving him his own board would be less visibility?  More like...if everyone would ignore him.

it was sarcasm..... And yes ignoring him/her would be the best solution to this issue. A great way to ignore him would be to get rid of these ludicrous threads about ners and his just bizzare thoughts on this program, but don't take my advice I'm no ners..