Update on prof McAdams

[Sir Lawrence]

The conservative NCR weighs in:

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/defending-catholic-teaching-lands-marquette-professor-in-limbo/

[GGGG]

Misses the point entirely, but whatever it takes...

[ChicosBailBonds]

The conservative NCR weighs in:

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/defending-catholic-teaching-lands-marquette-professor-in-limbo/

Thank you for sharing.  I thought they were just called the NCR by the way.

Moving forward, I will now insert "The liberal NY Times" and the "liberal Washington Post" and the "liberal LA Times"

[GGGG]

In my opinion it has a lot to do with the issue at hand and I'm not alone.  It's an opinion, but I believe he was targeted because of his beliefs.  

I think he was targeted because of his entirely preventable actions.  There are other conservative professors on Marquette's campus that manage to exist, mostly because they don't make repeated poor decisions about how they relate to people.  

But when people like you always play the victim, you tend to see victims everywhere.

[Sir Lawrence]

Thank you for sharing.  I thought they were just called the NCR by the way.

Moving forward, I will now insert "The liberal NY Times" and the "liberal Washington Post" and the "liberal LA Times"

Catholic periodicals are a genre distinct from the "mainstream" media.  Within that subset, NCR is certainly on the conservative side of the scale.  But I understand your point.

In other news, the Rev. Theodore M. Hesburgh, C.S.C., died late Thursday at Holy Cross House on the campus of his beloved University of Notre Dame.

[brandx]

The conservative NCR weighs in:

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/defending-catholic-teaching-lands-marquette-professor-in-limbo/

Considering the title of the article is a lie... no thanks, I won't waste my time.

[mu-rara]

In other news, the Rev. Theodore M. Hesburgh, C.S.C., died late Thursday at Holy Cross House on the campus of his beloved University of Notre Dame.

Not sure I should go here, but

I thought more about it.  I'll wait a few days.

[brandx]

Not sure I should go here, but

I thought more about it.  I'll wait a few days.

He won't be any more/less offended if you wait a couple days.

[mu-rara]

He won't be any more/less offended if you wait a couple days.

OK.  It is ND.

Are any of Fr. Hesburgh's sons still refereeing NCAA hoops?  Always seemed to be one of them doing MU / ND games in the '80's.

[Warriorfish]

Have a few good contacts at MU.

The hearings start next week.

The person really driving this is Lovell.  He is VERY political/partisan, much more so than people realize, and wants McAdams gone more than anyone.  MU is going to take a really hard Left turn.  Where Fr Wild would try and play peacemaker, Lovell wants a war.

Donations have definitely taken a hit.

This is going to be fascinating to watch.

[warriorchick]

Have a few good contacts at MU.

The hearings start next week.

The person really driving this is Lovell.  He is VERY political/partisan, much more so than people realize, and wants McAdams gone more than anyone.  MU is going to take a really hard Left turn.  Where Fr Wild would try and play peacemaker, Lovell wants a war.

Donations have definitely taken a hit.

This is going to be fascinating to watch.

And we can really trust the word of a guy who never posted here before. 

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Have a few good contacts at MU.

The hearings start next week.

The person really driving this is Lovell.  He is VERY political/partisan, much more so than people realize, and wants McAdams gone more than anyone.  MU is going to take a really hard Left turn.  Where Fr Wild would try and play peacemaker, Lovell wants a war.

Donations have definitely taken a hit.

This is going to be fascinating to watch.

Calm down Pilarz

[GGGG]

Have a few good contacts at MU.

The hearings start next week.

The person really driving this is Lovell.  He is VERY political/partisan, much more so than people realize, and wants McAdams gone more than anyone.  MU is going to take a really hard Left turn.  Where Fr Wild would try and play peacemaker, Lovell wants a war.

Donations have definitely taken a hit.

This is going to be fascinating to watch.

And welcome Dr. McAdams!!!

[Warriorfish]

And we can really trust the word of a guy who never posted here before. 

Everyone has a first post.  But, no, you don't have to trust me if you don't want.  Things heat up next week.

This case was all anyone wanted to talk about today before and after the Vos/Barca debate at MU.

[Eldon]

And we can really trust the word of a guy who never posted here before. 

To be sure, there have been some good one-hitter-quitters in the past.  Off the top of my head, Richard Shaw had good info on Shaka Smart, GoldenBoy had good info on Vander Blue leaving early for the draft.

Of course, there's been trolls here, too.

[brandx]

And we can really trust the word of a guy who never posted here before. 

Aren't we the elitist?

[warriorchick]

Aren't we the elitist?

What does saying you wouldn't believe something a complete stranger tells you have to do with being elitist?

I suppose you act on stock tips from random people on the street.

[keefe]

I suppose you act on stock tips from random people on the street.

[Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this... Guess who the advisor is to the student who audiotaped the TA??? That's right... McAdams.  And I hear if you listen to the uncut audio it pretty clearly appears to be a setup.  Yet, I'm sure McAdams would never orchestrate something like this to further his political agenda.  The hearings should be interesting.  

Personally I think that student who did the audiotape should be named given what happened to the TA because what goes around comes around.  Hope he enjoys all the emails

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this... Guess who the advisor is to the student who audiotaped the TA??? That's right... McAdams.  And I hear if you listen to the uncut audio it pretty clearly appears to be a setup.  Yet, I'm sure McAdams would never orchestrate something like this to further his political agenda.  The hearings should be interesting.   

Personally I think that student who did the audiotape should be named given what happened to the TA. 

It was mentioned in the article linked above.  That's quite a leap you are stating to say he orchestrated it.   I interpret the article to imply the student taped on his own, then took it to McAdams.

[brandx]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this... Guess who the advisor is to the student who audiotaped the TA??? That's right... McAdams.  And I hear if you listen to the uncut audio it pretty clearly appears to be a setup.  Yet, I'm sure McAdams would never orchestrate something like this to further his political agenda.  The hearings should be interesting.  

Personally I think that student who did the audiotape should be named given what happened to the TA because what goes around comes around.  Hope he enjoys all the emails

Hence the firing for what appears to be just a reprimand issue?

It is interesting though that he named the TA - but not the student. It's not like he worried about crossing any lines that shouldn't be crossed.

[Pakuni]

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education came out with its lists for 10 worst colleges for free speech.
The McAdams brouhaha landed MU on the list.
At least we're in good company with Georgetown.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-lukianoff/10-worst-for-free-speech_b_6769564.html

[WarriorInNYC]

I think he was targeted because of his entirely preventable actions.  There are other conservative professors on Marquette's campus that manage to exist, mostly because they don't make repeated poor decisions about how they relate to people.  

But when people like you always play the victim, you tend to see victims everywhere.

This.  I had a tax professor for 2 different courses who was very conservative and had absolutely no issue with telling the whole class about it every day.  I personally didn't mind because alot of what he said I agreed with, but I'm sure there were several people who felt uncomfortable about it or did not agree. 

Could this be targeting someone because of their beliefs?  Sure, but I really do not see it.  You just cannot do what McAdams did.  Period.

[brandx]

The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education came out with its lists for 10 worst colleges for free speech.
The McAdams brouhaha landed MU on the list.
At least we're in good company with Georgetown.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-lukianoff/10-worst-for-free-speech_b_6769564.html

If you look back earlier in the thread, that is the group I predicted might come on board with McAdams in a lawsuit. It is just conjecture on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

So far, they have only targeted public universities, so I don't know if they wanna go down this road.

But for me, I don't take seriously anything that a Koch brothers funded organization has to say.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think he was targeted because of his entirely preventable actions.  There are other conservative professors on Marquette's campus that manage to exist, mostly because they don't make repeated poor decisions about how they relate to people.  

But when people like you always play the victim, you tend to see victims everywhere.

As long as those other conservative professors play quiet, they are tolerated.  That's my inference, you may wish to disagree.   In my view, he was targeted for his views and how outspoken he was.  Several years ago he was told to pipe down, well before any of the latest stuff.  He should not have been asked to pipe down a few years ago.  That is simply a wrong request on so many levels.   

In my view, they waited for him to do something they thought reached a certain level where they could make a case to oust him, and that's what they are sinking their teeth into now.  Whether it works or now, we shall see.  If the university is proven to be correct, so be it.  If the university is proven to be wrong, I hope they have to write a huge check to him and more importantly, end the chilling effect that comes with it.

Time will tell.