Noskowiak Taking Online Classes

[Dawson Rental]

Marquette wasn't accepting online credit for athletes.  This article came out last month.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/12/29/college-athletes-fixer-cheating-scheme

Connect the dots.

This is not the same circumstances, at all.  Someone forced to finish HS online due to a serious illness is not in the same boat as a kid who can't cut it in a college classroom and therefore avoids them by having a stand in take online collegiate courses for him.

[warriorchick]

This is not the same circumstances, at all.  Someone forced to finish HS online due to a serious illness is not in the same boat as a kid who can't cut it in a college classroom and therefore avoids them by having a stand in take online collegiate courses for him.

Exactly.  If Nick was hit by a car and bedridden with injuries, I don't think that Marquette would have a problem with him taking classes online. This isn't any different.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Thoughts and prayers Nick. MU Nation is pulling for you

[forgetful]

The article mentions however that he is taking online high school classes. Nowhere does it state he's taking them through a university (unless I completely missed it). Either way, schools can pretty easily choose what they will and will not accept. I lost a decent amount of credits transferring to Marquette from the UW system, and MU specifically states they accept most UW credits.

Sometimes home-schooled kids complete high-school courses through Universities (online, like those through BYU), they also complete them at times through online courses (high school online companies).

The key is that if they would accept any of the courses for a home-schooled kid they can't disallow them for an athlete.  Also, the article is somewhat not relevant.  Was it an issue, yes.  But the big Universities (aka BYU) that were abused have greatly modified their coursework and testing procedures so that cannot happen anymore.

[GooooMarquette]

Exactly.  If Nick was hit by a car and bedridden with injuries, I don't think that Marquette would have a problem with him taking classes online. This isn't any different.

Absolutely.  Depression is an illness, and if that illness is preventing him from continuing in a traditional classroom, online classes might be a very legitimate substitute. 

[g0lden3agle]

Absolutely.  Depression is an illness, and if that illness is preventing him from continuing in a traditional classroom, online classes might be a very legitimate substitute. 

Is the bigger issue whether the NCAA would recognize the complete courses and/or diploma that comes along with them? 

[warriorchick]

Is the bigger issue whether the NCAA would recognize the complete courses and/or diploma that comes along with them? 

My point still stands.  Just substitute "NCAA" for "Marquette ".

[GGGG]

This is not the same circumstances, at all.  Someone forced to finish HS online due to a serious illness is not in the same boat as a kid who can't cut it in a college classroom and therefore avoids them by having a stand in take online collegiate courses for him.

I know.  Someone brought up why Marquette wasn't allowing any online credit.  I was saying that it was limited to athletic transfers.

[GGGG]

Yeah. That was my first thought. Be shocked if he ever makes it to Marquette. Hard to believe a kid with so much upside and talent could be depressed in high school. Too bad, hope he gets better.

Wow that really shows a fundamental lack of understanding about depression. 

[jficke13]

FWIW, there was a girl on the vball team when I was a student who was homeschooled.

[GGGG]

I'm very very familiar with this article.  What I don't see is how a University could not accept online college credits from another University, and only for athletes.  Especially when on the transcripts most good Universities don't indicate whether it was online or a regular class.

A University can decide to take credits from whatever school it wants. 

[GooooMarquette]

Wow that really shows a fundamental lack of understanding about depression. 

Agreed, Sultan. 

Depression doesn't follow success, or lack thereof.  Poor, uneducated, unemployed people suffer from depression...and wealthy, highly educated and very successful people suffer from depression.  It's an illness, not a symptom of failure.

[GGGG]

Agreed, Sultan. 

Depression doesn't follow success, or lack thereof.  Poor, uneducated, unemployed people suffer from depression...and wealthy, highly educated and very successful people suffer from depression.  It's an illness, not a symptom of failure.

And this new just came out recently.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/838376

[muwarrior69]

So a gifted athlete who is home schooled would not be eligible for an athletic scholarship by the NCAA?

On another note I wish Nick and his family all my prayers. My daughter suffers from clinical depression and medication has helped, but there are days where she has much difficulty dealing with just everyday living and we have learned to give her the space she needs. This is a brutal disease that just not affects the individual but all those who care for them. Thankfully there are more good days than bad.

[GGGG]

So a gifted athlete who is home schooled would not be eligible for an athletic scholarship by the NCAA?

Yes.  He or she would.  People need to stop extending this change of policy beyond its bounds.  It is for transfers only as I understand it.

[BCHoopster]

Yes.  He or she would.  People need to stop extending this change of policy beyond its bounds.  It is for transfers only as I understand it.

Whatever courses he is taking, I would bet my life he talked to MU to make sure he can still get in to MU, why wouldn't he?  More importantly he feels better about himself and gets the proper help to get his live moving forward, best of luck.

[GGGG]

Whatever courses he is taking, I would bet my life he talked to MU to make sure he can still get in to MU, why wouldn't he?

Exactly.

[rocky_warrior]

And this new just came out recently.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/838376

It appears that direct link just asks for a login.  Use the google search link instead and it works

Click Here...

[forgetful]

It appears that direct link just asks for a login.  Use the google search link instead and it works

Click Here...

Very interesting article.  I would caution anyone jumping to conclusions based on mouse models as they often do not extrapolate to humans.

The take home message though is important.  That depression is a serious illness that is often more complicated than simply an imbalance of neurotransmitters.  There is distinct biology behind the manifestation of symptoms that is no different than physical illness. 

[KenoshaWarrior]

So their seems to be a lot of confusion about online classes.  As someone who works not only as classroom teacher, but also as an online teacher for a couple of virtual programs allow me to shine some light

1. Most Virtual schools are tied to a particular district
-The largest in this state are Wisconsin Virtual Academy which i belief is operated by a very small up north school district
-JEDI which is the Virtual school for Sun Prairie, Stoughton, Lake Mills, Marshall (Other Eastern Dane/Western Jeff County Schools)
-Racine Virtual Learning
-Students do not need to live in the district to enroll in the virtual academy.  The virtual academy can be enrolled through "Open Enrollment" or Someone like Noskowiak probably was able to start right away because he enrolled in JEDI most likely. 

2. Virtual program credits are actual HS credits.   
-Almost every student in the Racine Unified school district has has to take a virtual credit or a CTC credit for a year and these courses are coded just like any other class is coded within our enrollment system with the exception that their is a "V" in front of the course number.  These classes by the way have all been accepted by other institutions.

3. These are nothing like "Correspondence" courses
-Many of these classes especially with WVA and Racine virtual use "Blackboard" like Learning Systems where classes are taught both Synchronous and Asynchronous.   Many of these classes are hard to finish if the student is not intelligent, and because you get less guidance the rate of failure is harder, and so is the course load.     

[Skatastrophy]

So their seems to be a lot of confusion about online classes.

Your a teacher?

[leever]

Your a teacher?

I see what you did there!

[chapman]

-JEDI which is the Virtual school for Sun Prairie, Stoughton, Lake Mills, Marshall (Other Eastern Dane/Western Jeff County Schools)

You're saying kids can go to the JEDI academy online these days?  Talk about having it all!  The closest I ever got to it was my parents buying me this:

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

You're saying kids can go to the JEDI academy online these days?  Talk about having it all!  The closest I ever got to it was my parents buying me this:

Does he use The Force when he's on the court?

[Dawson Rental]

Still sealed.  A better investment than Beanie Babies!

You're saying kids can go to the JEDI academy online these days?  Talk about having it all!  The closest I ever got to it was my parents buying me this: