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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: pacearrow02 on January 19, 2015, 01:52:49 PM
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Looks like Noskowiak has left Sun Prairie all together....hope it helps get things straightened out! Tough break for the kid and his team to have to deal with this.
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http://host.madison.com/sports/prep-boys-basketball-nick-noskowiak-moves-to-de-pere-taking/article_de78951a-a00e-11e4-9707-f38435fcbca4.html
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I hope he gets everything straightened out and most importantly, gets healthy. These kids are in the spotlight 24/7 and I can only imagine how difficult it can be to have that sort of focus on you at all times.
I hope he does what is best for him, even if that means a red shirt at Marquette or even a deferral.
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Can we accept recruits that graduate from correspondence schools.
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Good luck to Nick - maybe Heldt can visit since they're a short drive away now.
Can we accept recruits that graduate from correspondence schools.
On a tangent, has MU stopped pretending that the whole internet fad is going to come to an end and acknowledged online learning yet? When I was at MU not too long ago they had no online courses and at least the CoB didn't allow any online courses (even non-business) to transfer for credit either. Meanwhile, scores of other very reputable schools managed to build out strong online offerings and secure additional revenue streams. From a search, I've found a fairly lackluster College of Education page that acknowledges they now offer online courses, but that's about all.
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Can we accept recruits that graduate from correspondence schools.
Is "correspondence schools" a shot or do you fart dust? Just asking.
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Good luck, Nick. Take care of yourself.
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Good luck to Nick - maybe Heldt can visit since they're a short drive away now.
On a tangent, has MU stopped pretending that the whole internet fad is going to come to an end and acknowledged online learning yet? When I was at MU not too long ago they had no online courses and at least the CoB didn't allow any online courses (even non-business) to transfer for credit either. Meanwhile, scores of other very reputable schools managed to build out strong online offerings and secure additional revenue streams. From a search, I've found a fairly lackluster College of Education page that acknowledges they now offer online courses, but that's about all.
I know Marquette accepts online classes from transfers from UW schools.
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Is "correspondence schools" a shot or do you fart dust? Just asking.
I think I fart dust, but the question is confusing.
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This may muddy the waters in terms of his eligibility. My guess is that, if MU still wants him, they will be instrumental in selecting the particular online courses he'll take. Every HS has courses which meet the NCAA standard requirement for English, Math, etc (48-H form, I believe). Such a young kid to be dealing with such issues. Let's wish him success.
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Good luck to Nick - maybe Heldt can visit since they're a short drive away now.
On a tangent, has MU stopped pretending that the whole internet fad is going to come to an end and acknowledged online learning yet? When I was at MU not too long ago they had no online courses and at least the CoB didn't allow any online courses (even non-business) to transfer for credit either. Meanwhile, scores of other very reputable schools managed to build out strong online offerings and secure additional revenue streams. From a search, I've found a fairly lackluster College of Education page that acknowledges they now offer online courses, but that's about all.
Marquette wasn't accepting online credit for athletes. This article came out last month.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/12/29/college-athletes-fixer-cheating-scheme
Connect the dots.
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I think I fart dust, but the question is confusing.
Poor attempt at humor.
I meant, on-line learning is becoming mainstream, not comparable to the old notion of correspondence class.
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So, 4 schollies available, hey?
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Thoughts and prayers with Nick. Hope he figures everything out. Bright future ahead of him.
Does mean he will likely not be enrolling at MU?
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Get well Nick.
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So, 4 schollies available, hey?
Yeah. That was my first thought. Be shocked if he ever makes it to Marquette. Hard to believe a kid with so much upside and talent could be depressed in high school. Too bad, hope he gets better.
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Marquette wasn't accepting online credit for athletes. This article came out last month.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/12/29/college-athletes-fixer-cheating-scheme
Connect the dots.
I was certainly under the impression that Maymon took several online credits which counted for MU. I don't see how online college credits wouldn't be accepted by a University.
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I remember the same thing about Maymon. Hopefully this change helps the healing process for him. I'd love for him to be in an MU jersey next year, but his health is obviously the number one priority.
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I was certainly under the impression that Maymon took several online credits which counted for MU. I don't see how online college credits wouldn't be accepted by a University.
Marquette stopped taking online credits for athletes about three years ago. Again, read the article and connect the dots.
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Very Bizzare, so hes not coming or......
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Yeah. That was my first thought. Be shocked if he ever makes it to Marquette. Hard to believe a kid with so much upside and talent could be depressed in high school. Too bad, hope he gets better.
Clinical depression has nothing to do with whether or not you have an amazing life. It is basically a chemical imbalance in the brain. Most of the people suffering from depression have very little to be depressed about.
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Marquette stopped taking online credits for athletes about three years ago. Again, read the article and connect the dots.
I'm very very familiar with this article. What I don't see is how a University could not accept online college credits from another University, and only for athletes. Especially when on the transcripts most good Universities don't indicate whether it was online or a regular class.
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Clinical depression has nothing to do with whether or not you have an amazing life. It is basically a chemical imbalance in the brain. Most of the people suffering from depression have very little to be depressed about.
This
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Yeah. That was my first thought. Be shocked if he ever makes it to Marquette. Hard to believe a kid with so much upside and talent could be depressed in high school. Too bad, hope he gets better.
Respectfully, your comment highlights why this disease is so misunderstood.
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I'm very very familiar with this article. What I don't see is how a University could not accept online college credits from another University, and only for athletes. Especially when on the transcripts most good Universities don't indicate whether it was online or a regular class.
The article mentions however that he is taking online high school classes. Nowhere does it state he's taking them through a university (unless I completely missed it). Either way, schools can pretty easily choose what they will and will not accept. I lost a decent amount of credits transferring to Marquette from the UW system, and MU specifically states they accept most UW credits.
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Marquette wasn't accepting online credit for athletes. This article came out last month.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/12/29/college-athletes-fixer-cheating-scheme
Connect the dots.
This is not the same circumstances, at all. Someone forced to finish HS online due to a serious illness is not in the same boat as a kid who can't cut it in a college classroom and therefore avoids them by having a stand in take online collegiate courses for him.
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This is not the same circumstances, at all. Someone forced to finish HS online due to a serious illness is not in the same boat as a kid who can't cut it in a college classroom and therefore avoids them by having a stand in take online collegiate courses for him.
Exactly. If Nick was hit by a car and bedridden with injuries, I don't think that Marquette would have a problem with him taking classes online. This isn't any different.
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Thoughts and prayers Nick. MU Nation is pulling for you
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The article mentions however that he is taking online high school classes. Nowhere does it state he's taking them through a university (unless I completely missed it). Either way, schools can pretty easily choose what they will and will not accept. I lost a decent amount of credits transferring to Marquette from the UW system, and MU specifically states they accept most UW credits.
Sometimes home-schooled kids complete high-school courses through Universities (online, like those through BYU), they also complete them at times through online courses (high school online companies).
The key is that if they would accept any of the courses for a home-schooled kid they can't disallow them for an athlete. Also, the article is somewhat not relevant. Was it an issue, yes. But the big Universities (aka BYU) that were abused have greatly modified their coursework and testing procedures so that cannot happen anymore.
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Exactly. If Nick was hit by a car and bedridden with injuries, I don't think that Marquette would have a problem with him taking classes online. This isn't any different.
Absolutely. Depression is an illness, and if that illness is preventing him from continuing in a traditional classroom, online classes might be a very legitimate substitute.
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Absolutely. Depression is an illness, and if that illness is preventing him from continuing in a traditional classroom, online classes might be a very legitimate substitute.
Is the bigger issue whether the NCAA would recognize the complete courses and/or diploma that comes along with them?
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Is the bigger issue whether the NCAA would recognize the complete courses and/or diploma that comes along with them?
My point still stands. Just substitute "NCAA" for "Marquette ".
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This is not the same circumstances, at all. Someone forced to finish HS online due to a serious illness is not in the same boat as a kid who can't cut it in a college classroom and therefore avoids them by having a stand in take online collegiate courses for him.
I know. Someone brought up why Marquette wasn't allowing any online credit. I was saying that it was limited to athletic transfers.
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Yeah. That was my first thought. Be shocked if he ever makes it to Marquette. Hard to believe a kid with so much upside and talent could be depressed in high school. Too bad, hope he gets better.
Wow that really shows a fundamental lack of understanding about depression.
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FWIW, there was a girl on the vball team when I was a student who was homeschooled.
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I'm very very familiar with this article. What I don't see is how a University could not accept online college credits from another University, and only for athletes. Especially when on the transcripts most good Universities don't indicate whether it was online or a regular class.
A University can decide to take credits from whatever school it wants.
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Wow that really shows a fundamental lack of understanding about depression.
Agreed, Sultan.
Depression doesn't follow success, or lack thereof. Poor, uneducated, unemployed people suffer from depression...and wealthy, highly educated and very successful people suffer from depression. It's an illness, not a symptom of failure.
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Agreed, Sultan.
Depression doesn't follow success, or lack thereof. Poor, uneducated, unemployed people suffer from depression...and wealthy, highly educated and very successful people suffer from depression. It's an illness, not a symptom of failure.
And this new just came out recently.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/838376
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So a gifted athlete who is home schooled would not be eligible for an athletic scholarship by the NCAA?
On another note I wish Nick and his family all my prayers. My daughter suffers from clinical depression and medication has helped, but there are days where she has much difficulty dealing with just everyday living and we have learned to give her the space she needs. This is a brutal disease that just not affects the individual but all those who care for them. Thankfully there are more good days than bad.
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So a gifted athlete who is home schooled would not be eligible for an athletic scholarship by the NCAA?
Yes. He or she would. People need to stop extending this change of policy beyond its bounds. It is for transfers only as I understand it.
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Yes. He or she would. People need to stop extending this change of policy beyond its bounds. It is for transfers only as I understand it.
Whatever courses he is taking, I would bet my life he talked to MU to make sure he can still get in to MU, why wouldn't he? More importantly he feels better about himself and gets the proper help to get his live moving forward, best of luck.
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Whatever courses he is taking, I would bet my life he talked to MU to make sure he can still get in to MU, why wouldn't he?
Exactly.
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And this new just came out recently.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/838376
It appears that direct link just asks for a login. Use the google search link instead and it works :)
Click Here... (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.medscape.com%2Fviewarticle%2F838376&ei=pbC-VP6kEJeuyASErYGQDQ&usg=AFQjCNHkePU4__DfShKmruPf1AHGfN-rUA&bvm=bv.83829542,d.aWw&cad=rja)
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It appears that direct link just asks for a login. Use the google search link instead and it works :)
Click Here... (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.medscape.com%2Fviewarticle%2F838376&ei=pbC-VP6kEJeuyASErYGQDQ&usg=AFQjCNHkePU4__DfShKmruPf1AHGfN-rUA&bvm=bv.83829542,d.aWw&cad=rja)
Very interesting article. I would caution anyone jumping to conclusions based on mouse models as they often do not extrapolate to humans.
The take home message though is important. That depression is a serious illness that is often more complicated than simply an imbalance of neurotransmitters. There is distinct biology behind the manifestation of symptoms that is no different than physical illness.
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So their seems to be a lot of confusion about online classes. As someone who works not only as classroom teacher, but also as an online teacher for a couple of virtual programs allow me to shine some light
1. Most Virtual schools are tied to a particular district
-The largest in this state are Wisconsin Virtual Academy which i belief is operated by a very small up north school district
-JEDI which is the Virtual school for Sun Prairie, Stoughton, Lake Mills, Marshall (Other Eastern Dane/Western Jeff County Schools)
-Racine Virtual Learning
-Students do not need to live in the district to enroll in the virtual academy. The virtual academy can be enrolled through "Open Enrollment" or Someone like Noskowiak probably was able to start right away because he enrolled in JEDI most likely.
2. Virtual program credits are actual HS credits.
-Almost every student in the Racine Unified school district has has to take a virtual credit or a CTC credit for a year and these courses are coded just like any other class is coded within our enrollment system with the exception that their is a "V" in front of the course number. These classes by the way have all been accepted by other institutions.
3. These are nothing like "Correspondence" courses
-Many of these classes especially with WVA and Racine virtual use "Blackboard" like Learning Systems where classes are taught both Synchronous and Asynchronous. Many of these classes are hard to finish if the student is not intelligent, and because you get less guidance the rate of failure is harder, and so is the course load.
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So their seems to be a lot of confusion about online classes.
Your a teacher?
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Your a teacher?
I see what you did there!
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-JEDI which is the Virtual school for Sun Prairie, Stoughton, Lake Mills, Marshall (Other Eastern Dane/Western Jeff County Schools)
You're saying kids can go to the JEDI academy online these days? Talk about having it all! The closest I ever got to it was my parents buying me this:
(http://www.starwarstoybox.com/744-1702-thickbox/star-wars-power-of-the-force-2-action-figure-yoda-green-card.jpg)
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You're saying kids can go to the JEDI academy online these days? Talk about having it all! The closest I ever got to it was my parents buying me this:
(http://www.starwarstoybox.com/744-1702-thickbox/star-wars-power-of-the-force-2-action-figure-yoda-green-card.jpg)
Does he use The Force when he's on the court?
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Still sealed. A better investment than Beanie Babies!
You're saying kids can go to the JEDI academy online these days? Talk about having it all! The closest I ever got to it was my parents buying me this:
(http://www.starwarstoybox.com/744-1702-thickbox/star-wars-power-of-the-force-2-action-figure-yoda-green-card.jpg)
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A lot of information that is really useful to the discussion. Thank you, sir.
So their seems to be a lot of confusion about online classes. As someone who works not only as classroom teacher, but also as an online teacher for a couple of virtual programs allow me to shine some light
1. Most Virtual schools are tied to a particular district
-The largest in this state are Wisconsin Virtual Academy which i belief is operated by a very small up north school district
-JEDI which is the Virtual school for Sun Prairie, Stoughton, Lake Mills, Marshall (Other Eastern Dane/Western Jeff County Schools)
-Racine Virtual Learning
-Students do not need to live in the district to enroll in the virtual academy. The virtual academy can be enrolled through "Open Enrollment" or Someone like Noskowiak probably was able to start right away because he enrolled in JEDI most likely.
2. Virtual program credits are actual HS credits.
-Almost every student in the Racine Unified school district has has to take a virtual credit or a CTC credit for a year and these courses are coded just like any other class is coded within our enrollment system with the exception that their is a "V" in front of the course number. These classes by the way have all been accepted by other institutions.
3. These are nothing like "Correspondence" courses
-Many of these classes especially with WVA and Racine virtual use "Blackboard" like Learning Systems where classes are taught both Synchronous and Asynchronous. Many of these classes are hard to finish if the student is not intelligent, and because you get less guidance the rate of failure is harder, and so is the course load.
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I realize I shouldn't follow a kids Twitter account but NN needs to realize the public has access to his comments. The kid needs some maturing. He's ranting:
about @NickNoskowiak: ur not telling me what I can/cannot put on my twitter.. ima tweet/retweet what I want to... Thats why its MY twitter.. lmao
Frankly if my kid tweeted some of the stuff he has in the past about girls, homework, etc I'd be pissed.
I had similar concerns reading McKay's twitter a couple of years ago and then his changed/somebody likely talked to him. Somebody needs to set NN straight as he doesn't paint a good impression of himself on Twitter.
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I realize I shouldn't follow a kids Twitter account but NN needs to realize the public has access to his comments. The kid needs some maturing. He's ranting:
about @NickNoskowiak: ur not telling me what I can/cannot put on my twitter.. ima tweet/retweet what I want to... Thats why its MY twitter.. lmao
Frankly if my kid tweeted some of the stuff he has in the past about girls, homework, etc I'd be pissed.
I had similar concerns reading McKay's twitter a couple of years ago and then his changed/somebody likely talked to him. Somebody needs to set NN straight as he doesn't paint a good impression of himself on Twitter.
A close reading of Nicks Twitter account makes me very concerned about his situation. He has obviously run from something in Sun Prairie. I also question the Depression diagnosis as the sole source of his problems.. Before every one starts ranting, I have plenty of experience with depression in the family . For example, He has not lost interest in the things that are meaningful to him. My gut instinct is this is more of a bump in the road in high school. Obviously a big bump.
Someone should also tell him that he is going to have to answer a very detailed battery of medical questions prior to be allowed to participate in intercollegiate athletics. He will have to have his own doctor sign off on his healthy status as well as the schools.
I really like this kid as he has done a lot for MU before ever wearing our uniform. I hope he can find some equilibrium soon.
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A close reading of Nicks Twitter account makes me very concerned about his situation. He has obviously run from something in Sun Prairie. I also question the Depression diagnosis as the sole source of his problems.. Before every one starts ranting, I have plenty of experience with depression in the family . For example, He has not lost interest in the things that are meaningful to him. My gut instinct is this is more of a bump in the road in high school. Obviously a big bump.
Someone should also tell him that he is going to have to answer a very detailed battery of medical questions prior to be allowed to participate in intercollegiate athletics. He will have to have his own doctor sign off on his healthy status as well as the schools.
I really like this kid as he has done a lot for MU before ever wearing our uniform. I hope he can find some equilibrium soon.
Have you ever met the kid? Talked to him?
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Have you ever met the kid? Talked to him?
Actually Yes.
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Actually Yes.
And he told you what every interest he had was? And you've talked to him since and know he hasn't lost any of them? That's cool. I'd like to hear what some of them were.
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A close reading of Nicks Twitter account makes me very concerned about his situation. He has obviously run from something in Sun Prairie. I also question the Depression diagnosis as the sole source of his problems.. Before every one starts ranting, I have plenty of experience with depression in the family . For example, He has not lost interest in the things that are meaningful to him. My gut instinct is this is more of a bump in the road in high school. Obviously a big bump.
Someone should also tell him that he is going to have to answer a very detailed battery of medical questions prior to be allowed to participate in intercollegiate athletics. He will have to have his own doctor sign off on his healthy status as well as the schools.
I really like this kid as he has done a lot for MU before ever wearing our uniform. I hope he can find some equilibrium soon.
Seriously, you got all that from his twitter. Man, you're either nuts or one hell of a psychological detective.
People need to stop reading twitter and trying to determine everything out about a kid. Its kinda weird.
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And he told you what every interest he had was? And you've talked to him since and know he hasn't lost any of them? That's cool. I'd like to hear what some of them were.
Go look at the kids twitter page. It is all there for you to see. He will work his way through the problems quickly when he realizes he has to get a medical authorization to play intercollegiate sports. Mark my words on that.
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Go look at the kids twitter page. It is all there for you to see. He will work his way through the problems quickly when he realizes he has to get a medical authorization to play intercollegiate sports. Mark my words on that.
I'm thinking you should probably stop calling the kid a liar.
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Go look at the kids twitter page. It is all there for you to see. He will work his way through the problems quickly when he realizes he has to get a medical authorization to play intercollegiate sports. Mark my words on that.
You can't tell if someone has depression by looking at there twitter.
Just support the kid
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You can't tell if someone has depression by looking at there twitter.
Just support the kid
Their is the correct spelling. It is my opinion and I will stick by it. I do support the kid.
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I'm thinking you should probably stop calling the kid a liar.
It is truly amazing what some people will speculate on.
I'm not a psychiatrist, but I do post on Scoop!
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Bunch of white knights in here. This thread is like a tumblr.
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I believe online classes are administered through the high school so they would count as any teacher taught course. Secondly online courses are great for talented, motivated kids. Being able to blow through material and courses to suit their motivation and intelligence instead of being straddled with a single pace for all.
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It is truly amazing what some people will speculate on.
I'm not a psychiatrist, but I do post on Scoop!
There is a group of people on here who think nothing about posting with clear speculation about the mindsets of 18-22 year olds. Why would anyone be surprised that someone has decided to make a mental health diagnosis as well?
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I looked at the twitter page. There is NO INDICATION what so ever as to who the whole "don't tell me what to post" is directed. It could be a joke, or referencing something his parents said. Such wild speculation is dangerous.
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Wow. Some of you seem to have absolutely lost it. Its twitter. Get a grip.
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My point in posting that is that Nick needs to understand that he is in the public Eye now. I realize kids make mistakes, but I would tell him the same thing I tell my own kids...be careful what you put on social media. If you're posting garbage about sex, partying, inappropriate jokes, cheating.... It can all come back to bite you. Someday employers and colleagues will look at your social media. It can affect your ability to get a job, get a scholarship. It creates bad first impressions. Why the hell be so careless when there is so much at stake?
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Are people assuming Wojo told him to stop tweeting that "stuff"?
"ur not telling me what I can/cannot put on my twitter.. ima tweet/retweet what I want to... Thats why its MY twitter.. lmao"
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My point in posting that is that Nick needs to understand that he is in the public Eye now. I realize kids make mistakes, but I would tell him the same thing I tell my own kids...be careful what you put on social media. If you're posting garbage about sex, partying, inappropriate jokes, cheating.... It can all come back to bite you. Someday employers and colleagues will look at your social media. It can affect your ability to get a job, get a scholarship. It creates bad first impressions. Why the hell be so careless when there is so much at stake?
I agree with the idea, but I looked at his twitter and there is nothing there that would create a bad first impression or would be objectionable. Everything he as on there is consistent with what one would expect from a normal 17/18 yr old kid.
People need to quit looking at twitter, and if they can't do that, stop trying to interpret/judge based on what they read.
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Are people assuming Wojo told him to stop tweeting that "stuff"?
"ur not telling me what I can/cannot put on my twitter.. ima tweet/retweet what I want to... Thats why its MY twitter.. lmao"
I don't think that anyone is implying that that tweet was directed at Wojo or anyone from MU.
Since he replied with a tweet, I assume that he was responding to someone else's tweet. I guess I'll never know for sure because I have no interest in digging through his tweets to try and find what he was responding to.
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http://m.host.madison.com/sports/9ca1347a-a654-11e4-911e-8f7cd505f017.html?mobile_touch=true
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Really pulling for Nick. I've seen depression wreck a life and hopefully he has the help and support he needs to not just overcome this in the short term but continue to win the battle in the long term.
All that said, it will be interesting to see how this impacts our class. My guess is Marquette will remain committed to Nick, but will that mean they keep him on an athletic scholarship? This has to be a tough situation for Wojo, because you want to give all the support you can, but at the same time need to use every scholarship at your disposal to stay competitive. Will this increase our push for either a freshman or JUCO point guard? That's definitely been a priority of late. Will be interesting to see who ends up being the next guy to receive an offer.
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Maybe a redshirt? I mean right now we have 3 openings *with* Nick if no one else leaves. Do we feel that all three will be filled?
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http://m.host.madison.com/sports/9ca1347a-a654-11e4-911e-8f7cd505f017.html?mobile_touch=true
Only thing I find odd is that his Dad is saying Nick isn't living with his Uncle in Depere.
A week ago Nick told the WSJ that he is "taking online classes after moving in with his uncle in Depere"
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Maybe a redshirt? I mean right now we have 3 openings *with* Nick if no one else leaves. Do we feel that all three will be filled?
If I were guessing, I'd think we'll at least have offers out for all the spots. I think at least 2 will get filled, but guess the staff probably want to fill all 3.
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If I were guessing, I'd think we'll at least have offers out for all the spots. I think at least 2 will get filled, but guess the staff probably want to fill all 3.
Which they could do and still have Nick here.
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A close reading of Nicks Twitter account makes me very concerned about his situation. He has obviously run from something in Sun Prairie. I also question the Depression diagnosis as the sole source of his problems.. Before every one starts ranting, I have plenty of experience with depression in the family . For example, He has not lost interest in the things that are meaningful to him. My gut instinct is this is more of a bump in the road in high school. Obviously a big bump.
Someone should also tell him that he is going to have to answer a very detailed battery of medical questions prior to be allowed to participate in intercollegiate athletics. He will have to have his own doctor sign off on his healthy status as well as the schools.
I really like this kid as he has done a lot for MU before ever wearing our uniform. I hope he can find some equilibrium soon.
You make youself seem really ignorant reading ANYTHING into a social media tweet.
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Thoughts and prayers Nick. We're pulling for your recovery.
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You make youself seem really ignorant reading ANYTHING into a social media tweet.
Yeah no kidding. I don't care what kind of playing and coaching background TW has, the fact that he's calling out a 17/18 year old kid for "running" from something and using depression as an excuse to hide something is beyond absurd, and to suggest that he'll magically find peace when he realizes he won't receive an athletic scholarship if he's still "faking" depression...well, I really have no words to describe that. The fact that it's apparently coming from a relative of a current player is sad and, if true, TW should probably refrain from posting on Marquette forums for his own good and the good of the player that he's supposedly related to. Not smart, at all. If you are who people say you are, seriously, please stop posting stuff like this, and if you can't, just stop posting at all. (In fact, whether or not you're a relative of a player on the team or a recruit or whoever, how about not posting anything like this?)
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Yeah no kidding. I don't care what kind of playing and coaching background TW has, the fact that he's calling out a 17/18 year old kid for "running" from something and using depression as an excuse to hide something is beyond absurd, and to suggest that he'll magically find peace when he realizes he won't receive an athletic scholarship if he's still "faking" depression...well, I really have no words to describe that. The fact that it's apparently coming from a relative of a current player is sad and, if true, TW should probably refrain from posting on Marquette forums for his own good and the good of the player that he's supposedly related to. Not smart, at all. If you are who people say you are, seriously, please stop posting stuff like this, and if you can't, just stop posting at all. (In fact, whether or not you're a relative of a player on the team or a recruit or whoever, how about not posting anything like this?)
+1
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Wow...
@NickNoskowiak: I wasn't ever depressed or never saught treatment for depression... I had to get out of an abusive household and father
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Wow...
@NickNoskowiak: I wasn't ever depressed or never saught treatment for depression... I had to get out of an abusive household and father
I think the fact that he moved in with his uncle kind of tipped off where the problem was stemming from. But there's nothing positive that is going to come from speculating on his situation. Just wish the kid the best and hope everything works out, most importantly for his life.
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It is in everyone's best interest to stay out of this one.
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I think the fact that he moved in with his uncle kind of tipped off where the problem was stemming from. But there's nothing positive that is going to come from speculating on his situation. Just wish the kid the best and hope everything works out, most importantly for his life.
Yep. There's nothing wrong with lying to potentially preserve the relationship with his father/family, but he shouldn't have used depression as a smokescreen.
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Yep. There's nothing wrong with lying to potentially preserve the relationship with his father/family, but he shouldn't have used depression as a smokescreen.
Seems like it would have been wiser to have said nothing at all. Yet I rarely use "wisdom" and "teenager" in the same sentence. Unless it's to say the latter has little of the former. Heck, I didn't. ;)
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Yep. There's nothing wrong with lying to potentially preserve the relationship with his father/family, but he shouldn't have used depression as a smokescreen.
I'm with Tower that it is best to stay out of this one. We have no idea of the actual situations. Everyone is just speculating. For one, it is perfectly possible to be suffering depression because of an abusive relationship and deny that you are getting treatment.
The reason, the stigma associated with all of it.
The one thing we know for sure is that Nick is going through a lot right now, the details are insignificant. It is best that we let him deal with everything and not speculate or try to interpret anything around the story. Lets just leave this alone.
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It is in everyone's best interest to stay out of this one.
And perhaps apologize to Texas Western. Those of you that jumped on him look like fools.
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I'd say Texas Western has an apology coming from several here.
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I'm with Tower that it is best to stay out of this one. We have no idea of the actual situations. Everyone is just speculating. For one, it is perfectly possible to be suffering depression because of an abusive relationship and deny that you are getting treatment.
The reason, the stigma associated with all of it.
The one thing we know for sure is that Nick is going through a lot right now, the details are insignificant. It is best that we let him deal with everything and not speculate or try to interpret anything around the story. Lets just leave this alone.
+1.
And perhaps apologize to Texas Western. Those of you that jumped on him look like fools.
I'd say Texas Western has an apology coming from several here.
Absolutely not. Texas Western posted about how Nick was running from something, making him look like some kind of punk who got into trouble. That's not even close to the case. I have no problem with a teenager trying to cover up family trouble by putting the weight on his own shoulders. I do have a problem with an adult trying to make the kid look like the kid is the problem here, based on his Twitter account no less. It remains absolutely ridiculous.
Like I said, no good can come from speculating about what Nick is going through. The details are insignificant, the point is he's going through a rough time and none of us know what's going on. All we should be doing is hoping for the best for the kid, not speculating that he is the problem.
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Still, thoughts and prayers Nick.
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Assuming it's catching up in WI, but my district in AZ has had online classes for probably 10 years that meet state and NCAA eligibility standards. The challenge is many non-accredited online programs don't meet NCAA requirements. The other challenge is that online HS classes are MUCH harder than in person.
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I'd say Texas Western has an apology coming from several here.
Apologize to TW for trying to psychoanalyze one of our kids based on a twitter post. Honestly, why should we be apologizing to him? Also, he was pretty critical of one of our recruits that turns out has some very personal stuff going on in his life, which is as serious as suffering depression.