Are we on the verge of a top 5 class?

[🏀]

Whoa.  Dayton down at 116.

Whoa, they really did get a bump in recruiting after that tournament run.

[Lennys Tap]

Michigan isn't on the list, must have no seniors or likely early NBA entrants on this year's team. IU checking in at #80, 13th in the Big 10. Only year 7 though - gonna take some time.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

As an example that this projection is not fully accurrate, here are some notable teams that are currently projected as getting a 0 as a final score.

North Carolina State
Texas Tech
Seton Hall
Michigan
Colorado
BYU

Do I really believe that the likes of Michigan and NC State will sign only 2 stars or less? No. But that's where things stand right now.

[warriorchick]

IU checking in at #80, 13th in the Big 10.

There is something especially funny about that.  I guess I still have trouble getting used to the expansion of the Big Ten.

[tower912]

There is something especially funny about that.  I guess I still have trouble getting used to the expansion of the Big Ten.

Yeah, THAT'S what is especially funny about that.   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

In case you are curious, here's the conference averages:

SEC: 40.54
PAC 12: 37.16
Big 10: 35.63
ACC: 33.94
Big East: 32.97
Big 12: 32.13
American: 29.03
Mountain West: 19.97
Atlantic 10: 10.01
Missouri Valley: 9.16
Conference USA: 7.49
Ivy: 7.26
MAC: 5.69
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
West Coast: 4.54
Horizon 2.23
Summit: 2.05
Big West: 1.67
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
Big South: 1.23
Patriot: 1.06
Mid Atlantic: 1.09
Sun Belt: 0.51
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independents: 0
Metro Atlantic: 0
Northeast: 0
Ohio Valley: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0

And this is why the Power conference stay in power. Maybe the American will be able to keep up after all.

[jakeec]

I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see.  That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.

[Tums Festival]

I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see.  That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.

What leads you to think any of Wojo's recruits won't make it to campus?

[Dr. Blackheart]

I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see.  That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.

Sam Dekker was a RSCI 19.  He joins a few in that group not already in The League earning big money.  With Butch taking up five years for a cup of java while his backup has made it, you think Mr. Stone hasn't taken note about Bo's next level development skills, ain'a.

[MUDPT]

Sam Dekker was a RSCI 19.  He joins a few in that group not already in The League earning big money.  With Butch taking up five years for a cup of java while his backup has made it, you think Mr. Stone hasn't taken note about Bo's next level development skills, ain'a.

This. Hanner had a good article last season about coaches playing freshmen. Buzz and Bo were on the bottom of the list.  I think Bo is a good coach, but if you want to play right away to get to the next level, Madison isn't the place for you.

[Dawson Rental]

I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see.  That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.

I believe that the point of the thread was that the original poster investigated and found out that even with Ellenson, this class can not make the top five.  Still it's nothing anyone around here will complain about.

[TedBaxter]

jakeec is one of those posters who thinks he knows more than he really knows.  His comment about Marquette's recruiting class might be in retaliation for being totally upstaged on BadgerNation yesterday.  People tend to forget that there are people who know more than they do and in jakeec's case, there are people who know way more than he does and it isn't close.

[Archies Bat]

jakeec is one of those posters who thinks he knows more than he really knows.  His comment about Marquette's recruiting class might be in retaliation for being totally upstaged on BadgerNation yesterday.  People tend to forget that there are people who know more than they do and in jakeec's case, there are people who know way more than he does and it isn't close.

Just jakeec?

[beercanindasky]

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 02, 2014, 09:02:44 PM
Sam Dekker was a RSCI 19.  He joins a few in that group not already in The League earning big money.  With Butch taking up five years for a cup of java while his backup has made it, you think Mr. Stone hasn't taken note about Bo's next level development skills, ain'a.

This. Hanner had a good article last season about coaches playing freshmen. Buzz and Bo were on the bottom of the list.  I think Bo is a good coach, but if you want to play right away to get to the next level, Madison isn't the place for you.

Especially with Bo's Big Man Red Shirt Policy.  BBRSP!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

One important thing to note. It is impossible to get a score higher than 52.55. So Kentucky's 52.39 is about as close to perfect as possible.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Since we got the HE commit, I figured it was time for an update:

1. Kentucky   52.41
2. Arizona   51.69
3. Memphis   51.46
4. Uconn   51.4
5. Duke   51.39
6. Michigan State   51.06
7. Kansas   50.64
8. Louisville   50.17
9. Florida State   50.06
10. Oklahoma State   50.06
11. Marquette   49.99
12. Syracuse   49.39
13. Missouri   49.26
14. Ohio State   49.09
15. LSU   48.84
16. Illinois   48.57
17. Washington   48.4
18. Auburn   48.38
19. Texas A&M   48.27
20. Florida   48.08
21. Oregon State   46.71
22. Villanova   45.46
23. UCLA   45.37
24. Georgetown   45.37
25. USC   44.82
26. Texas   44.75
27. Wake Forest   43.76
28. Nebraska   43.26
29. Baylor   42.37
30. Tennessee   42.1
31. Oregon   41.61
32. North Carolina   41.28
33. California   40.93
34. West Virginia   40.65
35. Wisconsin   40.6
36. Penn State   40.59
37. Georgia   40.56
38. Stanford   40.08
39. Maryland   39.9
40. Virginia Tech   39.49
41. San Diego State   39.11
42. Xavier   39.08
43. VCU   38.94
44. Minnesota   38.71
45. Mississippi State   38.24
46. SMU   37.81
47. Temple   37.49
48. Arizona State   36.8
49. Notre Dame   36.04
50. Purdue   35.35
51. Vanderbilt   34.81
52. Providence   34.16
53. Ole Miss   33.75
54. Indiana   33.34
55. Boston College   33.05
56. Houston   32.63
57. Harvard   32.22
58. Rutgers   32.17
59. Oklahoma   31.39
60. Creighton   30.93
61. Depaul   30.89
62. Alabama   30.37
63. Cincinnati   30.09
64. UNLV   29.47
65. New Mexico   29.3
66. Kansas State   29.08
67. St. Joseph's   28.8
68. Miami (FL)   28.22
69. Iowa   28.15
70. Arkansas   27.78
71. Umass   27.52
72. Utah   27.18
73. Pittsburgh   26.81
74. Northwestern   26.45
75. UTEP   25.94
76. Gonzaga   25.68
77. Wyoming   25.31
78. Wichita State   24.95
79. South Florida   24.74
80. Butler   24.61
81. Georgia Tech   24.2
82. Tulane   23.82
83. Colorado State   23.62
84. South Carolina   22.82
85. Clemson   22.62
86. Drake   22.39
87. San Jose State   21.97
88. Washington State   21.91
89. Central Michigan   21.37
90. Nothern Illinois   20.84
91. Florida Gulf Coast   20.43
92. Fresno State   20.38
93. Virginia   20.13
94. Cleveland State   20.09
95. Loyola (IL)   20.04
96. ECU   19.79
97. St. Mary's   19.61
98. Western Illinois   18.41
99. Middle Tennessee   17.89
100. Valparaiso   17.44
101. UCF   17.2
102. TCU   17.2
103. Utah State   16.55
104. Rhode Island   16.38
105. UAB   16.04
106. Princeton   15.53
107. Western Kentucky   15.29
108. Saint Louis   15.21
109. Iowa State   15.16
110. Long Beach State   15.07
111. Yale   15
112. Toledo   14.63
113. Boise State   14.38
114. North Florida   14.12
115. Delaware   14.11
116. Rice   13.81
117. UC Irvine   13.6
118. Garnder-Webb   13.47
119. Samford   13.13
120. Indiana State   13.04
121. Dayton   12.89
122. Manhattan   11.93
123. Charlotte   11.38
124. Kent State   11.38
125. Appalachian State   11.38
126. Illinois State   11.13
127. Navy   10.63
128. Brown   10.34
129. Georgia Southern   5.56
130. Old Dominion   4.44
131. Lipscomb   3.33

[Dawson Rental]

Auburn 18th?  Bruce Pearl is back - taking like a duck to the water.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Conference ranking updates. Big East took a significant hit because one of our teams *cough*St. John's*cough* went from being favored to land a 5 star, to being favored to score a goose egg. Butler also lost out on Derrick Smits, one of their top targets, to....Valpo. With St. John's and Seton Hall dragging us down, the BEast is toward the lower end of the power conferences. Fortunately, there is still a huge gap between the top 7 and the MWC. And even bigger drop from the MWC to the other conferences.

SEC: 40.58
PAC 12: 37.13
B1G: 36.23
ACC: 34.03
B12: 32.13
BEast: 30.05
AAC: 29.85
MWC: 20.01
A10: 9.98
MVC: 9.16
Ivy: 6.38
CUSA: 6.21
MAC: 5.69
WCC: 5.36
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
Horizon: 4.17
Big West: 3.19
Big South: 2.44
Summit: 2.05
Sun Belt: 1.54
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
MAAC: 1.09
Patriot: 1.06
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independent: 0
MEAC: 0
NEC: 0
OVC: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0

[Dawson Rental]

TAMU (It's easier to write then your current name),

I assume that when your averaging a conferences rankings, you are not including schools not on your list, so that they are no zeros averaged in for those schools.  Correct?

Conference ranking updates. Big East took a significant hit because one of our teams *cough*St. John's*cough* went from being favored to land a 5 star, to being favored to score a goose egg. Butler also lost out on Derrick Smits, one of their top targets, to....Valpo. With St. John's and Seton Hall dragging us down, the BEast is toward the lower end of the power conferences. Fortunately, there is still a huge gap between the top 7 and the MWC. And even bigger drop from the MWC to the other conferences.

SEC: 40.58
PAC 12: 37.13
B1G: 36.23
ACC: 34.03
B12: 32.13
BEast: 30.05
AAC: 29.85
MWC: 20.01
A10: 9.98
MVC: 9.16
Ivy: 6.38
CUSA: 6.21
MAC: 5.69
WCC: 5.36
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
Horizon: 4.17
Big West: 3.19
Big South: 2.44
Summit: 2.05
Sun Belt: 1.54
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
MAAC: 1.09
Patriot: 1.06
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independent: 0
MEAC: 0
NEC: 0
OVC: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU (It's easier to write then your current naZaireme),

I assume that when your averaging a conferences rankings, you are not including schools not on your list, so that they are no zeros averaged in for those schools.  Correct?


No, they are included with a score of zero. So seton hall and saint johns drag us down

[4everwarriors]

TAMU (It's easier to write then your current name),

I assume that when your averaging a conferences rankings, you are not including schools not on your list, so that they are no zeros averaged in for those schools.  Correct?

Murray, nice to see you're comfortable in your own skin by pokin' fun at your junk in your new user name, hey?

[Texas Western]

Conference ranking updates. Big East took a significant hit because one of our teams *cough*St. John's*cough* went from being favored to land a 5 star, to being favored to score a goose egg. Butler also lost out on Derrick Smits, one of their top targets, to....Valpo. With St. John's and Seton Hall dragging us down, the BEast is toward the lower end of the power conferences. Fortunately, there is still a huge gap between the top 7 and the MWC. And even bigger drop from the MWC to the other conferences.

SEC: 40.58
PAC 12: 37.13
B1G: 36.23
ACC: 34.03
B12: 32.13
BEast: 30.05
AAC: 29.85
MWC: 20.01
A10: 9.98
MVC: 9.16
Ivy: 6.38
CUSA: 6.21
MAC: 5.69
WCC: 5.36
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
Horizon: 4.17
Big West: 3.19
Big South: 2.44
Summit: 2.05
Sun Belt: 1.54
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
MAAC: 1.09
Patriot: 1.06
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independent: 0
MEAC: 0
NEC: 0
OVC: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0

It looks like there is still some life in the St. Johns recruiting process. It would be good for the Big East if they could pick up one or more of the kids they had in for their midnight madness.

http://zagsblog.com/articles/briscoe-diallo-sampson-headline-st-johns-midnight-madness/#more-123046

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It looks like there is still some life in the St. Johns recruiting process. It would be good for the Big East if they could pick up one or more of the kids they had in for their midnight madness.

http://zagsblog.com/articles/briscoe-diallo-sampson-headline-st-johns-midnight-madness/#more-123046

They had a great lineup at madness, but I feel like St. John's always does this. They spend all their time recruiting 5 stars that they have little chance at landing. The only 5 star they have landed since Levin has been there is (correct me if I'm wrong) Rysheed Jordan in 2013. I really don't see Briscoe, Diallo, or Sampson ending up with SJU. Then they will be left scrambling for recruits...just like 2014.

[JakeBarnes]

They had a great lineup at madness, but I feel like St. John's always does this. They spend all their time recruiting 5 stars that they have little chance at landing. The only 5 star they have landed since Levin has been there is (correct me if I'm wrong) Rysheed Jordan in 2013. I really don't see Briscoe, Diallo, or Sampson ending up with SJU. Then they will be left scrambling for recruits...just like 2014.

They clearly don't understand the bright lights of Lavinwood.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

They had a great lineup at madness, but I feel like St. John's always does this. They spend all their time recruiting 5 stars that they have little chance at landing. The only 5 star they have landed since Levin has been there is (correct me if I'm wrong) Rysheed Jordan in 2013. I really don't see Briscoe, Diallo, or Sampson ending up with SJU. Then they will be left scrambling for recruits...just like 2014.

Maybe I spoke too soon. Jerry Meyer just switched his pick for Briscoe to SJU. He's one of the few I actually trust.