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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 18, 2014, 03:48:18 AM
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So I've been hearing a lot from both scoopers and recruiting experts that Marquette would be a top 5 class if they secured Henry. I decided to see if that would be true.
Using 247's class calculator, I found that securing Henry would bump our recruiting class to number 3, behind only Arizona and Louisville. Pretty sweet. However, that would only be with the current landscape of 2015 recruiting. A lot of the big fish don't commit until the spring. Where would we land after all the other programs got there own big recruits?
Utilizing 247's class calculator and crystal ball predictions, I found what our class rank would be should all of the crystal ball predictions as they are now end up being correct. Obviously, there are some major holes in this experiment, the main one being that all the current crystal ball predictions will not come true. This is just for fun.
The short answer is no. But it is still a damn good class. It comes in at 8th, good for top in the BEast. Below is all the data I gathered, BEast schools are bolded.
1. Kentucky 52.37
2. LSU 51.77
3. Arizona 51.69
4. UConn 51.42
5. Duke 51.39
6. Memphis 50.63
7. Louisville 50.19
8. Marquette 50.00
9. Michigan State 49.95
10. Florida State 49.91
11. Syracuse 49.41
12. Missouri 49.28
13. Ohio State 49.11
14. Illinois 48.95
15. Washington 48.42
16. Auburn 48.40
17. Texas A&M 48.29
18. Florida 48.10
19. Georgetown 47.55
20. Kansas 47.31
21. UNLV 46.91
22. Oregon State 46.74
23. Villanova 45.48
24. UCLA 45.38
25. Texas 44.77
26. Creighton 44.41
27. Oklahoma State 44.33
28. Nebraska 43.28
29. Wisconsin 42.59
30. Baylor 42.25
31. Penn State 41.69
32. Oregon 41.31
33. California 40.96
34. West Virginia 40.68
35. Georgia 40.58
36. SMU 40.54
37. Stanford 40.10
38. Maryland 39.91
39. San Diego State 38.98
40. Minnesota 38.75
41. Mississippi State 38.26
42. Clemson 37.84
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
44. Temple 37.52
45. Boston College 37.46
46. Arizona State 36.86
47. Xavier 36.59
48. Notre Dame 36.06
49. Purdue 35.39
50. Vanderbilt 34.83
51. Providence 34.44
52. Ole Miss 33.12
53. Houston 32.65
54. Rutgers 32.18
55. Depaul 30.76
56. Alabama 30.40
57. Cincinnati 30.14
58. St. John's 29.61
59. New Mexico 29.38
60. St. Joe's 29.28
61. Butler 29.20
61. Iowa 29.20
63. Kansas State 29.15
64. North Carolina 28.94
65. Miami (FL) 28.24
66. Utah 28.13
67. Arkansas 27.79
68. UMass 27.54
69. Pittsburgh 26.82
70. Northwestern 26.54
71. Gonzaga 25.69
72. Wyoming 25.35
73. VCU 24.71
74. Indiana 24.70
75. UC Irvine 24.62
76. Georgia Tech 24.09
77. Oklahoma 24.00
78. Tulane 23.73
79. Colorado State 23.69
80. Tennessee 23.40
81. Seton Hall 22.83
82. Drake 22.44
83. Rice 22.01
84. Central Michigan 21.97
85. Princeton 21.85
86. Northern Illinois 20.85
87. Fresno State 20.40
88. Virginia 20.15
89. Cleveland State 20.10
90. ECU 19.79
91. St. Mary's 19.61
92. Western Illinois 18.42
93. Middle Tennessee State: 17.91
94. South Florida 17.74
95. Wichita State 17.66
96. TCU: 17.25
96. UCF 17.25
98. Utah State 16.56
99. Rhode Island 16.40
100. Wake Forest 16.24
101. Western Kentucky 15.29
102. Saint Louis 15.21
103. Iowa State 15.16
104. Toledo 14.68
105. Boise State 14.38
106. North Florida 14.17
107. Gardner-Webb 13.52
108. Samford 13.18
109. Indiana State 13.04
110. Illinois State 11.13
111. Navy 10.63
112. San Jose State 10.59
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Interesting post TAMU. Thanks for putting in the time. Like you, I'll take the #8 class anytime. But what I really like more than any one great class, is having a good talent level in consecutive classes. What has me most excited is the fact that we have guy's like Burton, JJJ, W Ellemson, and Fischer in one class, with Du Wilson, Cohen, and Levin in another. Followed by this already great class of 2015. We may start out a little slow this year but, great things most certainly are coming.
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I like the strength of the BEast if this turns out to be true. 4 (40% of our league) in the Top 26. By comparison, the Big 10 has 4 in the Top 29.
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That was a lot of work. Thanks.
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Thanks TAMU - I would be thrilled with these results. Thanks for working this up b
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This is great for two reasons. 1.) Marquette under Wojo seems to have actually gained momentum with recruiting and 2.) the Big East is looking competitive top-to-bottom with recruiting. 40% of our league in the top 26 is great (very close to top 25), and all 10 teams place in the top 81 (very close to being top 75).
As much as I want Marquette to get the best recruits, I can't help but root for our other Big East brothers getting the talent as well. If the new league is going to succeed, it will take all the schools getting results on the court. Step up your game, DePaul!!!!
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8. Marquette 50.00
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
74. Indiana 24.70
;D
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Cannot ever complain about a #8 class.
I will add this, I do not know how the 247 metrics work, but many of these measuring sticks have a huge weighting factor to size of class. I recall about 20 years a go a mid major in one of these types of rankings had the #1 class in the country becuase they had 8? signees, despite the fact that they were 2 and 3 star players. A good class nonethelss for that type of program but #1??!!.
What I like to do for myself is to simply add the stars and divided by the number of players to get a more true representation of the qulaity of the class. given many of these metrics a class of 7 2 stars or 14 points is better than a class of 3 4 star players = 12. i whole haertedly disagree.
So forwhatever its worth, if and I still beleive recruiting to be very fluid and a player is not on campus until he is on campus, but should Henry Ellenson chose to matriculate at Marquette University my own method is.... 3 4 stars equals 12 points add 1 5 star to be 17, divided by 4 and the result is 4.25. A more true representation of the quality of the class regardless of size. not sure how that stacks up against the other but I will take a 4.25 every day of the week!!
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This is great for two reasons. 1.) Marquette under Wojo seems to have actually gained momentum with recruiting and 2.) the Big East is looking competitive top-to-bottom with recruiting. 40% of our league in the top 26 is great (very close to top 25), and all 10 teams place in the top 81 (very close to being top 75).
As much as I want Marquette to get the best recruits, I can't help but root for our other Big East brothers getting the talent as well. If the new league is going to succeed, it will take all the schools getting results on the court. Step up your game, DePaul!!!!
Not sure if MU upped its game in recruiting, I think the State of Wisconsin upped its game in High School. Probably best year ever in Wisconsin and it makes a difference. Kevin O'Neal came
in and got Logterman, Key and McIlvaine. Crean got Novak and Diener early, Buzz did not. It just so happened that the state when a new coach came in, the state was having an up year.
The newness of a new coach, excitement, is there right away and Wojo has done that. Lets see how Wojo does out of state in the future. As a class like this upcoming year is the best
ever. Getting possibly 3 or the 4 is very impressive. Not sure if Buzz would have gotten 1 of them. Buzz liked to recruit kids with one family member, so he became there psuedo father
type. He was more comfortable doing that.
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Cannot ever complain about a #8 class.
I will add this, I do not know how the 247 metrics work, but many of these measuring sticks have a huge weighting factor to size of class. I recall about 20 years a go a mid major in one of these types of rankings had the #1 class in the country becuase they had 8? signees, despite the fact that they were 2 and 3 star players. A good class nonethelss for that type of program but #1??!!.
What I like to do for myself is to simply add the stars and divided by the number of players to get a more true representation of the qulaity of the class. given many of these metrics a class of 7 2 stars or 14 points is better than a class of 3 4 star players = 12. i whole haertedly disagree.
So forwhatever its worth, if and I still beleive recruiting to be very fluid and a player is not on campus until he is on campus, but should Henry Ellenson chose to matriculate at Marquette University my own method is.... 3 4 stars equals 12 points add 1 5 star to be 17, divided by 4 and the result is 4.25. A more true representation of the quality of the class regardless of size. not sure how that stacks up against the other but I will take a 4.25 every day of the week!!
Remind anyone of the late great George Carlin: "Never had a 10... but one time, five twos."
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How is Xavier in there with 0 2015 commits?
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8. Marquette 50.00
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
74. Indiana 24.70
;D
Definitely worth smiling about! Hope the actual gap is wider.
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Not sure if MU upped its game in recruiting, I think the State of Wisconsin upped its game in High School. Probably best year ever in Wisconsin and it makes a difference. Kevin O'Neal came
in and got Logterman, Key and McIlvaine. Crean got Novak and Diener early, Buzz did not. It just so happened that the state when a new coach came in, the state was having an up year.
The newness of a new coach, excitement, is there right away and Wojo has done that. Lets see how Wojo does out of state in the future. As a class like this upcoming year is the best
ever. Getting possibly 3 or the 4 is very impressive. Not sure if Buzz would have gotten 1 of them. Buzz liked to recruit kids with one family member, so he became there psuedo father
type. He was more comfortable doing that.
Not exactly sure on that...I liked Buzz and think he did a great job, not gonna call him bert, or whatever jilted lover names are being used, but its not like he didnt have a good number of very talented players to recruit from Wisconsin, not only did he sign some of them but he also missed on many of them too. Looney, tokoto, Dekker just to name 3 mcdonalds all americans from the last 3-4 years
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Not exactly sure on that...I liked Buzz and think he did a great job, not gonna call him bert, or whatever jilted lover names are being used, but its not like he didnt have a good number of very talented players to recruit from Wisconsin, not only did he sign some of them but he also missed on many of them too. Looney, tokoto, Dekker just to name 3 mcdonalds all americans from the last 3-4 years
I think Buzz saw the hand writing on the wall, he was not going to get Stone or Ellenson. I am not saying he should get every recruit in the area but losing the kids above and the ones going
forward probably was a major reason he left. Wojo brings a new enthusiasm a new excitement. Plus I really think his assistants are really young and were players, known players. Carrawell,
Nelson great hires, add to your staff Diener, Gainey and Thornton really are positives. Must be great to have top notch ex-players as your assistants. I also agree for the all the wrong Buzz did behind the scenes, he had a great run on the court, and fun for the fans. Hope Wojo can keep it up.
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Not exactly sure on that...I liked Buzz and think he did a great job, not gonna call him bert, or whatever jilted lover names are being used, but its not like he didnt have a good number of very talented players to recruit from Wisconsin, not only did he sign some of them but he also missed on many of them too. Looney, tokoto, Dekker just to name 3 mcdonalds all americans from the last 3-4 years
Tokoto and Dekker weren't McD's AA.
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Not sure if MU upped its game in recruiting, I think the State of Wisconsin upped its game in High School. Probably best year ever in Wisconsin and it makes a difference. Kevin O'Neal came
in and got Logterman, Key and McIlvaine. Crean got Novak and Diener early, Buzz did not. It just so happened that the state when a new coach came in, the state was having an up year.
The newness of a new coach, excitement, is there right away and Wojo has done that. Lets see how Wojo does out of state in the future. As a class like this upcoming year is the best
ever. Getting possibly 3 or the 4 is very impressive. Not sure if Buzz would have gotten 1 of them. Buzz liked to recruit kids with one family member, so he became there psuedo father
type. He was more comfortable doing that.
Yeah, Buzz only landed Blue, Jeronne, Duane, Deonte, Sandy, NN from Wisconsin.
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How is Xavier in there with 0 2015 commits?
Utilizing 247's class calculator and crystal ball predictions, I found what our class rank would be should all of the crystal ball predictions as they are now end up being correct. Obviously, there are some major holes in this experiment, the main one being that all the current crystal ball predictions will not come true.
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Tokoto and Dekker weren't McD's AA.
You are right…Dekker got snubbed for the game. Here is an interesting article on UW recruiting targets from a few years ago…..amazing that they whiffed on just about everybody they targeted in 2013 and 2014. http://host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/men/uw-men-s-basketball-dekker-s-omission-from-mcdonald-s/article_0e19a4d2-55fb-11e1-8da5-001871e3ce6c.html
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8. Marquette 50.00
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
74. Indiana 24.70
;D
TC has the Hoosiers in the top 75 in only 7 years? Fans in Bloomington must be ecstatic!
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Not sure if MU upped its game in recruiting, I think the State of Wisconsin upped its game in High School. Probably best year ever in Wisconsin and it makes a difference. Kevin O'Neal came
in and got Logterman, Key and McIlvaine. Crean got Novak and Diener early, Buzz did not. It just so happened that the state when a new coach came in, the state was having an up year.
The newness of a new coach, excitement, is there right away and Wojo has done that. Lets see how Wojo does out of state in the future. As a class like this upcoming year is the best
ever. Getting possibly 3 of the 4 is very impressive. Not sure if Buzz would have gotten 1 of them. Buzz liked to recruit kids with one family member, so he became there psuedo father
type. He was more comfortable doing that.
Regarding this year's class, Marquette is possibly getting 3 of the top five, as 247's composite rankings indicate that Brevin Pritzl is ranked fourth in the state of Wisconsin just ahead of Matt Heldt who is ranked fifth. Regarding whether Buzz would have gotten any of the group of Stone, Ellenson, Noskowiak, Pritzl and Heldt, Noskowiak had already committed to Marquette before Buzz left.
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who's Xavier predicted to get?
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I like the strength of the BEast if this turns out to be true. 4 (40% of our league) in the Top 26. By comparison, the Big 10 has 4 5 in the Top 29.
FIFY, don't be forgetting that Nebraska has joined the Big Ten fold.
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Cannot ever complain about a #8 class.
I will add this, I do not know how the 247 metrics work, but many of these measuring sticks have a huge weighting factor to size of class. I recall about 20 years a go a mid major in one of these types of rankings had the #1 class in the country becuase they had 8? signees, despite the fact that they were 2 and 3 star players. A good class nonethelss for that type of program but #1??!!.
What I like to do for myself is to simply add the stars and divided by the number of players to get a more true representation of the qulaity of the class. given many of these metrics a class of 7 2 stars or 14 points is better than a class of 3 4 star players = 12. i whole haertedly disagree.
So forwhatever its worth, if and I still beleive recruiting to be very fluid and a player is not on campus until he is on campus, but should Henry Ellenson chose to matriculate at Marquette University my own method is.... 3 4 stars equals 12 points add 1 5 star to be 17, divided by 4 and the result is 4.25. A more true representation of the quality of the class regardless of size. not sure how that stacks up against the other but I will take a 4.25 every day of the week!!
You would get a lot of ties with that method, and technically, your method favors schools with fewer available schollies. For example, if a team only had one scholarship available and they land a 4-star recruit, its score would be a 4. If that guy blows up his knee during the first week of practice, it's a zero (for all intents and purposes). I agree with your basic premise, but find a way to reward depth of the class at least a little bit.
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who's Xavier predicted to get?
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who's Xavier predicted to get?
#97: KJ Walton
#187: Jeremy Miller
#211: Kipper Nichols
#214: Aric Holman
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8. Marquette 50.00
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
74. Indiana 24.70
;D
When I was creating list one of the first things I thought was "how long until someone points VT and Indiana out?"
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Cannot ever complain about a #8 class.
I will add this, I do not know how the 247 metrics work, but many of these measuring sticks have a huge weighting factor to size of class. I recall about 20 years a go a mid major in one of these types of rankings had the #1 class in the country becuase they had 8? signees, despite the fact that they were 2 and 3 star players. A good class nonethelss for that type of program but #1??!!.
What I like to do for myself is to simply add the stars and divided by the number of players to get a more true representation of the qulaity of the class. given many of these metrics a class of 7 2 stars or 14 points is better than a class of 3 4 star players = 12. i whole haertedly disagree.
So forwhatever its worth, if and I still beleive recruiting to be very fluid and a player is not on campus until he is on campus, but should Henry Ellenson chose to matriculate at Marquette University my own method is.... 3 4 stars equals 12 points add 1 5 star to be 17, divided by 4 and the result is 4.25. A more true representation of the quality of the class regardless of size. not sure how that stacks up against the other but I will take a 4.25 every day of the week!!
247 does a pretty good job of counteracting that. As the size of the class goes up, the value of each individual player goes down slightly. This means that 1 five star will be a better class than 5 2 stars. There is obviously a small amount of value added for having a larger class, but it places more value on the quality than the quantity of the recruit.
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So I've been hearing a lot from both scoopers and recruiting experts that Marquette would be a top 5 class if they secured Henry. I decided to see if that would be true.
Using 247's class calculator, I found that securing Henry would bump our recruiting class to number 3, behind only Arizona and Louisville. Pretty sweet. However, that would only be with the current landscape of 2015 recruiting. A lot of the big fish don't commit until the spring. Where would we land after all the other programs got there own big recruits?
Utilizing 247's class calculator and crystal ball predictions, I found what our class rank would be should all of the crystal ball predictions as they are now end up being correct. Obviously, there are some major holes in this experiment, the main one being that all the current crystal ball predictions will not come true. This is just for fun.
The short answer is no. But it is still a damn good class. It comes in at 8th, good for top in the BEast. Below is all the data I gathered, BEast schools are bolded.
1. Kentucky 52.37
2. LSU 51.77
3. Arizona 51.69
4. UConn 51.42
5. Duke 51.39
6. Memphis 50.63
7. Louisville 50.19
8. Marquette 50.00
9. Michigan State 49.95
10. Florida State 49.91
11. Syracuse 49.41
12. Missouri 49.28
13. Ohio State 49.11
14. Illinois 48.95
15. Washington 48.42
16. Auburn 48.40
17. Texas A&M 48.29
18. Florida 48.10
19. Georgetown 47.55
20. Kansas 47.31
21. UNLV 46.91
22. Oregon State 46.74
23. Villanova 45.48
24. UCLA 45.38
25. Texas 44.77
26. Creighton 44.41
27. Oklahoma State 44.33
28. Nebraska 43.28
29. Wisconsin 42.59
30. Baylor 42.25
31. Penn State 41.69
32. Oregon 41.31
33. California 40.96
34. West Virginia 40.68
35. Georgia 40.58
36. SMU 40.54
37. Stanford 40.10
38. Maryland 39.91
39. San Diego State 38.98
40. Minnesota 38.75
41. Mississippi State 38.26
42. Clemson 37.84
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
44. Temple 37.52
45. Boston College 37.46
46. Arizona State 36.86
47. Xavier 36.59
48. Notre Dame 36.06
49. Purdue 35.39
50. Vanderbilt 34.83
51. Providence 34.44
52. Ole Miss 33.12
53. Houston 32.65
54. Rutgers 32.18
55. Depaul 30.76
56. Alabama 30.40
57. Cincinnati 30.14
58. St. John's 29.61
59. New Mexico 29.38
60. St. Joe's 29.28
61. Butler 29.20
61. Iowa 29.20
63. Kansas State 29.15
64. North Carolina 28.94
65. Miami (FL) 28.24
66. Utah 28.13
67. Arkansas 27.79
68. UMass 27.54
69. Pittsburgh 26.82
70. Northwestern 26.54
71. Gonzaga 25.69
72. Wyoming 25.35
73. VCU 24.71
74. Indiana 24.70
75. UC Irvine 24.62
76. Georgia Tech 24.09
77. Oklahoma 24.00
78. Tulane 23.73
79. Colorado State 23.69
80. Tennessee 23.40
81. Seton Hall 22.83
82. Drake 22.44
83. Rice 22.01
84. Central Michigan 21.97
85. Princeton 21.85
86. Northern Illinois 20.85
87. Fresno State 20.40
88. Virginia 20.15
89. Cleveland State 20.10
90. ECU 19.79
91. St. Mary's 19.61
92. Western Illinois 18.42
93. Middle Tennessee State: 17.91
94. South Florida 17.74
95. Wichita State 17.66
96. TCU: 17.25
96. UCF 17.25
98. Utah State 16.56
99. Rhode Island 16.40
100. Wake Forest 16.24
101. Western Kentucky 15.29
102. Saint Louis 15.21
103. Iowa State 15.16
104. Toledo 14.68
105. Boise State 14.38
106. North Florida 14.17
107. Gardner-Webb 13.52
108. Samford 13.18
109. Indiana State 13.04
110. Illinois State 11.13
111. Navy 10.63
112. San Jose State 10.59
This is good work. Thanks for putting it together.
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I like the strength of the BEast if this turns out to be true. 4 (40% of our league) in the Top 26. By comparison, the Big 10 has 4 in the Top 29.
I do as well. When the worst class in your conference is ranked #81 (Seton Hall)...you are doing pretty well. Most of the other power conferences has a team or two that isn't even ranked on this list. (In order to make the list they had to have one of the top 310 players per 247 either committed or projected to go to them)
I was nervous at first when I saw the AAC had two teams ranked in the top 6. But then I looked at the rest of their conference. We have our entire conference in the top 81. They only have seven in that same group.
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Feed yourself.
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So I've been hearing a lot from both scoopers and recruiting experts that Marquette would be a top 5 class if they secured Henry. I decided to see if that would be true.
Using 247's class calculator, I found that securing Henry would bump our recruiting class to number 3, behind only Arizona and Louisville. Pretty sweet. However, that would only be with the current landscape of 2015 recruiting. A lot of the big fish don't commit until the spring. Where would we land after all the other programs got there own big recruits?
Utilizing 247's class calculator and crystal ball predictions, I found what our class rank would be should all of the crystal ball predictions as they are now end up being correct. Obviously, there are some major holes in this experiment, the main one being that all the current crystal ball predictions will not come true. This is just for fun.
The short answer is no. But it is still a damn good class. It comes in at 8th, good for top in the BEast. Below is all the data I gathered, BEast schools are bolded.
1. Kentucky 52.37
2. LSU 51.77
3. Arizona 51.69
4. UConn 51.42
5. Duke 51.39
6. Memphis 50.63
7. Louisville 50.19
8. Marquette 50.00
9. Michigan State 49.95
10. Florida State 49.91
11. Syracuse 49.41
12. Missouri 49.28
13. Ohio State 49.11
14. Illinois 48.95
15. Washington 48.42
16. Auburn 48.40
17. Texas A&M 48.29
18. Florida 48.10
19. Georgetown 47.55
20. Kansas 47.31
21. UNLV 46.91
22. Oregon State 46.74
23. Villanova 45.48
24. UCLA 45.38
25. Texas 44.77
26. Creighton 44.41
27. Oklahoma State 44.33
28. Nebraska 43.28
29. Wisconsin 42.59
30. Baylor 42.25
31. Penn State 41.69
32. Oregon 41.31
33. California 40.96
34. West Virginia 40.68
35. Georgia 40.58
36. SMU 40.54
37. Stanford 40.10
38. Maryland 39.91
39. San Diego State 38.98
40. Minnesota 38.75
41. Mississippi State 38.26
42. Clemson 37.84
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
44. Temple 37.52
45. Boston College 37.46
46. Arizona State 36.86
47. Xavier 36.59
48. Notre Dame 36.06
49. Purdue 35.39
50. Vanderbilt 34.83
51. Providence 34.44
52. Ole Miss 33.12
53. Houston 32.65
54. Rutgers 32.18
55. Depaul 30.76
56. Alabama 30.40
57. Cincinnati 30.14
58. St. John's 29.61
59. New Mexico 29.38
60. St. Joe's 29.28
61. Butler 29.20
61. Iowa 29.20
63. Kansas State 29.15
64. North Carolina 28.94
65. Miami (FL) 28.24
66. Utah 28.13
67. Arkansas 27.79
68. UMass 27.54
69. Pittsburgh 26.82
70. Northwestern 26.54
71. Gonzaga 25.69
72. Wyoming 25.35
73. VCU 24.71
74. Indiana 24.70
75. UC Irvine 24.62
76. Georgia Tech 24.09
77. Oklahoma 24.00
78. Tulane 23.73
79. Colorado State 23.69
80. Tennessee 23.40
81. Seton Hall 22.83
82. Drake 22.44
83. Rice 22.01
84. Central Michigan 21.97
85. Princeton 21.85
86. Northern Illinois 20.85
87. Fresno State 20.40
88. Virginia 20.15
89. Cleveland State 20.10
90. ECU 19.79
91. St. Mary's 19.61
92. Western Illinois 18.42
93. Middle Tennessee State: 17.91
94. South Florida 17.74
95. Wichita State 17.66
96. TCU: 17.25
96. UCF 17.25
98. Utah State 16.56
99. Rhode Island 16.40
100. Wake Forest 16.24
101. Western Kentucky 15.29
102. Saint Louis 15.21
103. Iowa State 15.16
104. Toledo 14.68
105. Boise State 14.38
106. North Florida 14.17
107. Gardner-Webb 13.52
108. Samford 13.18
109. Indiana State 13.04
110. Illinois State 11.13
111. Navy 10.63
112. San Jose State 10.59
Once again, great work TAMU! This obviously took some time to put together. I think Heldt will continue to move up in the rankings so maybe we move up some. Lots to like about the future of MU hoops!
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Statistically, I am not sure how this is done. But what excites me is the apparent very small gap between 1 and 15. We're really among the best in the country if we get Henry.
I'm truly electrified by this and if we can get the coaching to match what's coming in, we're baaaaaaccccckkkk!
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"it places more value on the quality than the quantity"
This hold up after a few shots and a 12 pack?
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Impressed with creighton. Is that maquaid and someone else I don't know?
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Feed yourself.
I do. I don't ask others to research stuff on the internet that I could easily find myself.
I notice you haven't even thanked TAMU Ellenson for answering your question, yet. But why would you? That's what he's here for, right?
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I do. I don't ask others to research stuff on the internet that I could easily find myself.
I notice you haven't even thanked TAMU Ellenson for answering your question, yet. But why would you? That's what he's here for, right?
I appreciate it brother Ellenson. But this stuff is no trouble. Keeping track of recruiting trends and amateur analysis is a hobby of mine/part of my job. When part of your job involves convincing the men's basketball team to do events and promotions that they often don't feel like doing, you need to keep up good relationships. For me, that means knowing more about college basketball than they do. Not the actual gameplay, but just about everything else.
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Impressed with creighton. Is that maquaid and someone else I don't know?
#65: Matt McQuaid
#99: Justin Patton (Already Committed)
#143: Roosevelt Smart
#283: Desure Buie
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I appreciate it brother Ellenson. But this stuff is no trouble. Keeping track of recruiting trends and amateur analysis is a hobby of mine/part of my job. When part of your job involves convincing the men's basketball team to do events and promotions that they often don't feel like doing, you need to keep up good relationships. For me, that means knowing more about college basketball than they do. Not the actual gameplay, but just about everything else.
A belated thanks for sharing your findings with the rest of us.
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#65: Matt McQuaid
#99: Justin Patton (Already Committed)
#143: Roosevelt Smart
#283: Desure Buie
Thank You!! TAMU, I truly appreciate the research.
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I do. I don't ask others to research stuff on the internet that I could easily find myself.
I notice you haven't even thanked TAMU Ellenson for answering your question, yet. But why would you? That's what he's here for, right?
And what are you here for? Apparently to worry about my posts.
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8. Marquette 50.00
43. Virginia Tech 37.58
74. Indiana 24.70
I would expect the Clampetts to be low. New coach and new style. I actually think the Hillbilly did well poaching our recruits.
Indiana is one that blows my mind. If Tanned Tommy isn't on the hot seat yet, he will be very soon. In fact, if this doesn't change, he won't be the tanned one. He'll be Toasted Tommy and his father-in-law will have to work to get him employed at Western Kentucky!
At the rate things are going, Indiana football will surpass Indiana basketball as the most successful major sport on campus!
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Wow, thanks TAMU.
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Here's a weekend update. The biggest upward risers are Illinois, VCU, and South Carolina. Illinois jumps into the top 10 after becoming the leader in the Jalen Coleman sweepstakes. VCU moves to #51 by taking the lead in the race for Aric Holman. South Carolina makes their way onto the list by stealing ESPN 100 forward Chris Silva out from under Seton Hall's nose.
The biggest falls were UNLV, LSU, and Seton Hall. UNLV was the previous leader for Jalen Coleman and Seton Hall fell off the list completely. The pirates were favored to get Chris Silva before South Carolina locked him in. LSU is still in the top 15 but fall from the #2 spot. They were the leaders for Antonio Blakeney but Kentucky now has a solid lead in the polls.
1. Kentucky 52.39
2. Arizona 51.69
3. UConn 51.42
4. Duke 51.39
5. Memphis 50.63
6. Illinois 50.52
7. Louisville 50.19
8. Marquette 50.00
9. Michigan State 49.95
10. Florida State 49.91
11. Syracuse 49.41
12. Missouri 49.28
13. Ohio State 49.11
14. LSU 48.85
15. Washington 48.42
16. Auburn 48.40
17. Texas A&M 48.29
18. Florida 48.10
19. Georgetown 47.55
20. Kansas 47.31
21. Oregon State 46.74
22. Villanova 45.48
23. UCLA 45.38
24. Texas 44.77
25. Creighton 44.41
26. Oklahoma State 44.33
27. Nebraska 43.28
28. Wisconsin 42.59
29. Baylor 42.25
30. Penn State 41.69
31. Oregon 41.31
32. California 40.96
33. West Virginia 40.68
34. Georgia 40.58
35. SMU 40.54
36. Stanford 40.10
37. Maryland 39.91
38. Virginia Tech 39.51
39. San Diego State 38.98
40. Minnesota 38.75
41. Mississippi State 38.26
42. Clemson 37.84
43. Temple 37.52
44. Boston College 37.46
45. Arizona State 36.86
46. Xavier 36.40
47. Notre Dame 36.06
48. Purdue 35.39
49. Vanderbilt 34.83
50. Providence 34.44
51. VCU 34.17
52. Ole Miss 33.12
53. Houston 32.65
54. Rutgers 32.18
55. Depaul 30.76
56. Alabama 30.40
57. Cincinnati 30.14
58. St. John's 29.61
59. UNLV 29.48
60. New Mexico 29.38
61. St. Joe's 29.28
62. Butler 29.20
62. Iowa 29.20
64. Kansas State 29.10
65. North Carolina 28.94
66. Miami (FL) 28.24
67. Utah 28.13
68. Arkansas 27.79
69. UMass 27.54
70. Pittsburg 26.82
71. Northwestern 26.54
72. Wyoming 25.35
73. Gonzaga 25.69
74. Indiana 24.70
75. UC Irvine 24.62
76. Georgia Tech 24.09
77. Oklahoma 24.00
78. Tulane 23.73.
79. Colorado State 23.69
80. Tennessee 23.40
81. South Carolina 22.83
82. Drake 22.44
83. Central Michigan 21.97
84. Princeton 21.85
85. Northern Illinois 20.85
86. Fresno State 20.40
87. Virginia 20.15
88. Cleveland State 20.10
89. ECU 19.79
90. St. Mary's 19.61
91. Western Illinois 18.42
92. Middle Tennessee State: 17.91
93. South Florida 17.74
94. Wichita State 17.66
95. TCU: 17.25
95. UCF 17.25
97. Utah State 16.56
98. Rhode Island 16.40
99. Wake Forest 16.24
100. Western Kentucky 15.29
101. Saint Louis 15.21
102. Iowa State 15.16
103. Toledo 14.68
104. Boise State 14.38
105. North Florida 14.17
106. Rice 13.86
107. Gardner-Webb 13.52
108. Boston University 13.44
109. Samford 13.18
110. Indiana State 13.04
111. Illinois State 11.13
112. Navy 10.63
113. San Jose State 10.59
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Here's a weekend update. The biggest upward risers are Illinois, VCU, and South Carolina. Illinois jumps into the top 10 after becoming the leader in the Jalen Coleman sweepstakes. VCU moves to #51 by taking the lead in the race for Aric Holman. South Carolina makes their way onto the list by stealing ESPN 100 forward Chris Silva out from under Seton Hall's nose.
The biggest falls were UNLV, LSU, and Seton Hall. UNLV was the previous leader for Jalen Coleman and Seton Hall fell off the list completely. The pirates were favored to get Chris Silva before South Carolina locked him in. LSU is still in the top 15 but fall from the #2 spot. They were the leaders for Antonio Blakeney but Kentucky now has a solid lead in the polls.
1. Kentucky 52.39
2. Arizona 51.69
3. UConn 51.42
4. Duke 51.39
5. Memphis 50.63
6. Illinois 50.52
7. Louisville 50.19
8. Marquette 50.00
9. Michigan State 49.95
10. Florida State 49.91
11. Syracuse 49.41
12. Missouri 49.28
13. Ohio State 49.11
14. LSU 48.85
15. Washington 48.42
16. Auburn 48.40
17. Texas A&M 48.29
18. Florida 48.10
19. Georgetown 47.55
20. Kansas 47.31
21. Oregon State 46.74
22. Villanova 45.48
23. UCLA 45.38
24. Texas 44.77
25. Creighton 44.41
26. Oklahoma State 44.33
27. Nebraska 43.28
28. Wisconsin 42.59
29. Baylor 42.25
30. Penn State 41.69
31. Oregon 41.31
32. California 40.96
33. West Virginia 40.68
34. Georgia 40.58
35. SMU 40.54
36. Stanford 40.10
37. Maryland 39.91
38. Virginia Tech 39.51
39. San Diego State 38.98
40. Minnesota 38.75
41. Mississippi State 38.26
42. Clemson 37.84
43. Temple 37.52
44. Boston College 37.46
45. Arizona State 36.86
46. Xavier 36.40
47. Notre Dame 36.06
48. Purdue 35.39
49. Vanderbilt 34.83
50. Providence 34.44
51. VCU 34.17
52. Ole Miss 33.12
53. Houston 32.65
54. Rutgers 32.18
55. Depaul 30.76
56. Alabama 30.40
57. Cincinnati 30.14
58. St. John's 29.61
59. UNLV 29.48
60. New Mexico 29.38
61. St. Joe's 29.28
62. Butler 29.20
62. Iowa 29.20
64. Kansas State 29.10
65. North Carolina 28.94
66. Miami (FL) 28.24
67. Utah 28.13
68. Arkansas 27.79
69. UMass 27.54
70. Pittsburg 26.82
71. Northwestern 26.54
72. Wyoming 25.35
73. Gonzaga 25.69
74. Indiana 24.70
75. UC Irvine 24.62
76. Georgia Tech 24.09
77. Oklahoma 24.00
78. Tulane 23.73.
79. Colorado State 23.69
80. Tennessee 23.40
81. South Carolina 22.83
82. Drake 22.44
83. Central Michigan 21.97
84. Princeton 21.85
85. Northern Illinois 20.85
86. Fresno State 20.40
87. Virginia 20.15
88. Cleveland State 20.10
89. ECU 19.79
90. St. Mary's 19.61
91. Western Illinois 18.42
92. Middle Tennessee State: 17.91
93. South Florida 17.74
94. Wichita State 17.66
95. TCU: 17.25
95. UCF 17.25
97. Utah State 16.56
98. Rhode Island 16.40
99. Wake Forest 16.24
100. Western Kentucky 15.29
101. Saint Louis 15.21
102. Iowa State 15.16
103. Toledo 14.68
104. Boise State 14.38
105. North Florida 14.17
106. Rice 13.86
107. Gardner-Webb 13.52
108. Boston University 13.44
109. Samford 13.18
110. Indiana State 13.04
111. Illinois State 11.13
112. Navy 10.63
113. San Jose State 10.59
Blakeney committing to Lousvillr and then quickly de-committing is an eye-opener.
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Blakeney committing to Lousvillr and then quickly de-committing is an eye-opener.
UK. $$$$
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UK. $$$$
Smells a little like the Terrence Jones situation a few years back
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UK. $$$$
Translation…when he committed to Louisville, Cal got on the phone and called all his people at Nike etc, and made sure they made his life a living hell and how poor his chances would be going forward…financially and event wise.
He then "reconsidered" and will visit all Nike schools…likely ending up with Calipari.
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Translation…when he committed to Louisville, Cal got on the phone and called all his people at Nike etc, and made sure they made his life a living hell and how poor his chances would be going forward…financially and event wise.
He then "reconsidered" and will visit all Nike schools…likely ending up with Calipari.
I've got a pretty good idea on the relationship between AAUs and college coaches/recruitments. But how far "down the rabbit hole" does the relationship between shoe companies and recruitments go?
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Here's an updated list. Had some commits, some crystal balls changed, and some rankings changed. Creighton fell pretty hard after losing out on McQuaid (Michigan State), Roosevelt Smart (Loyola Chicago), and Desure Buie (crystal ball changed to Manhattan). We have also been passed up by Michigan State (McQuaid commited), Kansas (gained the lead for Marcus LoVett), and Oklahoma State (gained the lead for Elijiah Thomas). If things stand as they are (they won't) we won't even have a top 10 class.
1. Kentucky 52.39
2. Arizona 51.69
3. Memphis 51.46
4. Uconn 51.4
5. Duke 51.39
6. Michigan State 51.06
7. Kansas 50.64
8. Louisville 50.17
9. Florida State 50.06
9. Oklahoma State 50.06
11. Marquette 49.99
12. Syracuse 49.39
13. Missouri 49.26
14. Ohio State 49.09
15. LSU 48.84
16. Illinois 48.57
17. Washington 48.4
18. Auburn 48.38
19. Texas A&M 48.27
20. Florida 48.08
21. Oregon State 46.71
22. Villanova 45.46
23. UCLA 45.37
24. USC 44.82
25. Texas 44.75
26. Nebraska 43.26
27. Georgetown 43.17
28. Georgia 42.49
29. Baylor 42.37
30. Tennessee 42.1
31. Oregon 41.61
32. North Carolina 41.28
33. California 40.93
34. West Virginia 40.65
35. Wisconsin 40.6
36. Penn State 40.59
37. Stanford 40.08
38. Maryland 39.9
39. Virginia Tech 39.49
40. San Diego State 39.11
41. VCU 38.94
42. Minnesota 38.71
43. Mississippi State 38.24
44. SMU 37.81
45. Temple 37.49
46. Arizona State 36.8
47. Xavier 36.37
48. Wake Forest 36.29
49. Notre Dame 36.04
50. Purdue 35.35
51. Vanderbilt 34.81
52. Providence 34.16
53. Ole Miss 33.75
54. Boston College 33.05
55. Houston 32.63
56. Harvard 32.22
57. Rutgers 32.17
58. Oklahoma 31.39
59. Creighton 30.93
60. Depaul 30.89
61. Alabama 30.37
62. Cincinnati 30.09
63. Saint John's 29.61
64. UNLV 29.47
65. New Mexico 29.3
66. St. Joseph's 29.23
67. Butler 29.14
68. Kansas State 29.08
69. Iowa 28.39
70. Miami (FL) 28.22
71. Arkansas 27.78
72. Umass 27.52
73. Utah 27.18
74. Pittsburgh 26.81
75. Northwestern 26.45
76. UTEP 25.94
77. Gonzaga 25.68
78. Wyoming 25.31
79. Wichita State 24.95
80. Indiana 24.69
81. Georgia Tech 24.2
82. Tulane 23.82
83. Colorado State 23.62
84. South Carolina 22.82
85. Clemson 22.62
86. Drake 22.39
87. Washington State 21.91
88. Central Michigan 21.37
89. Nothern Illinois 20.84
88. Florida Gulf Coast 20.43
89. Fresno State 20.38
90. Virginia 20.13
91. Cleveland State 20.09
92. Loyola (IL) 20.04
93. ECU 19.79
94. St. Mary's 19.61
95. Western Illinois 18.41
96. Middle Tennessee 17.89
97. South Florida 17.69
98. UCF 17.2
98. TCU 17.2
100. Utah State 16.55
101. Rhode Island 16.38
102. UAB 16.04
103. Princeton 15.53
104. Western Kentucky 15.29
105. Saint Louis 15.21
106. Iowa State 15.16
107. Long Beach State 15.07
108. Toledo 14.63
109. Boise State 14.38
110. North Florida 14.12
111. Delaware 14.11
112. Rice 13.81
113. Garnder-Webb 13.47
114. Samford 13.13
115. Indiana State 13.04
116. Dayton 12.89
117. Manhattan 11.93
118. Charlotte 11.38
118. Kent State 11.38
120. Illinois State 11.13
121. Navy 10.63
122. San Jose State 10.59
123. Brown 10.34
124. Georgia Southern 5.56
125. Old Dominion 4.44
126. Lipscomb 3.33
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Whoa. Dayton down at 116.
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Whoa. Dayton down at 116.
Whoa, they really did get a bump in recruiting after that tournament run.
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Michigan isn't on the list, must have no seniors or likely early NBA entrants on this year's team. IU checking in at #80, 13th in the Big 10. Only year 7 though - gonna take some time.
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As an example that this projection is not fully accurrate, here are some notable teams that are currently projected as getting a 0 as a final score.
North Carolina State
Texas Tech
Seton Hall
Michigan
Colorado
BYU
Do I really believe that the likes of Michigan and NC State will sign only 2 stars or less? No. But that's where things stand right now.
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IU checking in at #80, 13th in the Big 10.
There is something especially funny about that. I guess I still have trouble getting used to the expansion of the Big Ten.
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There is something especially funny about that. I guess I still have trouble getting used to the expansion of the Big Ten.
Yeah, THAT'S what is especially funny about that. ::)
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In case you are curious, here's the conference averages:
SEC: 40.54
PAC 12: 37.16
Big 10: 35.63
ACC: 33.94
Big East: 32.97
Big 12: 32.13
American: 29.03
Mountain West: 19.97
Atlantic 10: 10.01
Missouri Valley: 9.16
Conference USA: 7.49
Ivy: 7.26
MAC: 5.69
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
West Coast: 4.54
Horizon 2.23
Summit: 2.05
Big West: 1.67
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
Big South: 1.23
Patriot: 1.06
Mid Atlantic: 1.09
Sun Belt: 0.51
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independents: 0
Metro Atlantic: 0
Northeast: 0
Ohio Valley: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0
And this is why the Power conference stay in power. Maybe the American will be able to keep up after all.
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I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see. That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.
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I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see. That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.
What leads you to think any of Wojo's recruits won't make it to campus?
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I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see. That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.
Sam Dekker was a RSCI 19. He joins a few in that group not already in The League earning big money. With Butch taking up five years for a cup of java while his backup has made it, you think Mr. Stone hasn't taken note about Bo's next level development skills, I'm really a badger fan.
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Sam Dekker was a RSCI 19. He joins a few in that group not already in The League earning big money. With Butch taking up five years for a cup of java while his backup has made it, you think Mr. Stone hasn't taken note about Bo's next level development skills, I'm really a badger fan.
This. Hanner had a good article last season about coaches playing freshmen. Buzz and Bo were on the bottom of the list. I think Bo is a good coach, but if you want to play right away to get to the next level, Madison isn't the place for you.
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I don't see this class being a top 5, but we'll see. That's assuming also that all of these kids make it to Marquette to play.
I believe that the point of the thread was that the original poster investigated and found out that even with Ellenson, this class can not make the top five. Still it's nothing anyone around here will complain about.
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jakeec is one of those posters who thinks he knows more than he really knows. His comment about Marquette's recruiting class might be in retaliation for being totally upstaged on BadgerNation yesterday. People tend to forget that there are people who know more than they do and in jakeec's case, there are people who know way more than he does and it isn't close.
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jakeec is one of those posters who thinks he knows more than he really knows. His comment about Marquette's recruiting class might be in retaliation for being totally upstaged on BadgerNation yesterday. People tend to forget that there are people who know more than they do and in jakeec's case, there are people who know way more than he does and it isn't close.
Just jakeec?
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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 02, 2014, 09:02:44 PM
Sam Dekker was a RSCI 19. He joins a few in that group not already in The League earning big money. With Butch taking up five years for a cup of java while his backup has made it, you think Mr. Stone hasn't taken note about Bo's next level development skills, I'm really a badger fan.
This. Hanner had a good article last season about coaches playing freshmen. Buzz and Bo were on the bottom of the list. I think Bo is a good coach, but if you want to play right away to get to the next level, Madison isn't the place for you.
Especially with Bo's Big Man Red Shirt Policy. BBRSP!
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One important thing to note. It is impossible to get a score higher than 52.55. So Kentucky's 52.39 is about as close to perfect as possible.
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Since we got the HE commit, I figured it was time for an update:
1. Kentucky 52.41
2. Arizona 51.69
3. Memphis 51.46
4. Uconn 51.4
5. Duke 51.39
6. Michigan State 51.06
7. Kansas 50.64
8. Louisville 50.17
9. Florida State 50.06
10. Oklahoma State 50.06
11. Marquette 49.99
12. Syracuse 49.39
13. Missouri 49.26
14. Ohio State 49.09
15. LSU 48.84
16. Illinois 48.57
17. Washington 48.4
18. Auburn 48.38
19. Texas A&M 48.27
20. Florida 48.08
21. Oregon State 46.71
22. Villanova 45.46
23. UCLA 45.37
24. Georgetown 45.37
25. USC 44.82
26. Texas 44.75
27. Wake Forest 43.76
28. Nebraska 43.26
29. Baylor 42.37
30. Tennessee 42.1
31. Oregon 41.61
32. North Carolina 41.28
33. California 40.93
34. West Virginia 40.65
35. Wisconsin 40.6
36. Penn State 40.59
37. Georgia 40.56
38. Stanford 40.08
39. Maryland 39.9
40. Virginia Tech 39.49
41. San Diego State 39.11
42. Xavier 39.08
43. VCU 38.94
44. Minnesota 38.71
45. Mississippi State 38.24
46. SMU 37.81
47. Temple 37.49
48. Arizona State 36.8
49. Notre Dame 36.04
50. Purdue 35.35
51. Vanderbilt 34.81
52. Providence 34.16
53. Ole Miss 33.75
54. Indiana 33.34
55. Boston College 33.05
56. Houston 32.63
57. Harvard 32.22
58. Rutgers 32.17
59. Oklahoma 31.39
60. Creighton 30.93
61. Depaul 30.89
62. Alabama 30.37
63. Cincinnati 30.09
64. UNLV 29.47
65. New Mexico 29.3
66. Kansas State 29.08
67. St. Joseph's 28.8
68. Miami (FL) 28.22
69. Iowa 28.15
70. Arkansas 27.78
71. Umass 27.52
72. Utah 27.18
73. Pittsburgh 26.81
74. Northwestern 26.45
75. UTEP 25.94
76. Gonzaga 25.68
77. Wyoming 25.31
78. Wichita State 24.95
79. South Florida 24.74
80. Butler 24.61
81. Georgia Tech 24.2
82. Tulane 23.82
83. Colorado State 23.62
84. South Carolina 22.82
85. Clemson 22.62
86. Drake 22.39
87. San Jose State 21.97
88. Washington State 21.91
89. Central Michigan 21.37
90. Nothern Illinois 20.84
91. Florida Gulf Coast 20.43
92. Fresno State 20.38
93. Virginia 20.13
94. Cleveland State 20.09
95. Loyola (IL) 20.04
96. ECU 19.79
97. St. Mary's 19.61
98. Western Illinois 18.41
99. Middle Tennessee 17.89
100. Valparaiso 17.44
101. UCF 17.2
102. TCU 17.2
103. Utah State 16.55
104. Rhode Island 16.38
105. UAB 16.04
106. Princeton 15.53
107. Western Kentucky 15.29
108. Saint Louis 15.21
109. Iowa State 15.16
110. Long Beach State 15.07
111. Yale 15
112. Toledo 14.63
113. Boise State 14.38
114. North Florida 14.12
115. Delaware 14.11
116. Rice 13.81
117. UC Irvine 13.6
118. Garnder-Webb 13.47
119. Samford 13.13
120. Indiana State 13.04
121. Dayton 12.89
122. Manhattan 11.93
123. Charlotte 11.38
124. Kent State 11.38
125. Appalachian State 11.38
126. Illinois State 11.13
127. Navy 10.63
128. Brown 10.34
129. Georgia Southern 5.56
130. Old Dominion 4.44
131. Lipscomb 3.33
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Auburn 18th? Bruce Pearl is back - taking like a duck to the water.
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Conference ranking updates. Big East took a significant hit because one of our teams *cough*St. John's*cough* went from being favored to land a 5 star, to being favored to score a goose egg. Butler also lost out on Derrick Smits, one of their top targets, to....Valpo. With St. John's and Seton Hall dragging us down, the BEast is toward the lower end of the power conferences. Fortunately, there is still a huge gap between the top 7 and the MWC. And even bigger drop from the MWC to the other conferences.
SEC: 40.58
PAC 12: 37.13
B1G: 36.23
ACC: 34.03
B12: 32.13
BEast: 30.05
AAC: 29.85
MWC: 20.01
A10: 9.98
MVC: 9.16
Ivy: 6.38
CUSA: 6.21
MAC: 5.69
WCC: 5.36
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
Horizon: 4.17
Big West: 3.19
Big South: 2.44
Summit: 2.05
Sun Belt: 1.54
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
MAAC: 1.09
Patriot: 1.06
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independent: 0
MEAC: 0
NEC: 0
OVC: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0
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TAMU (It's easier to write then your current name),
I assume that when your averaging a conferences rankings, you are not including schools not on your list, so that they are no zeros averaged in for those schools. Correct?
Conference ranking updates. Big East took a significant hit because one of our teams *cough*St. John's*cough* went from being favored to land a 5 star, to being favored to score a goose egg. Butler also lost out on Derrick Smits, one of their top targets, to....Valpo. With St. John's and Seton Hall dragging us down, the BEast is toward the lower end of the power conferences. Fortunately, there is still a huge gap between the top 7 and the MWC. And even bigger drop from the MWC to the other conferences.
SEC: 40.58
PAC 12: 37.13
B1G: 36.23
ACC: 34.03
B12: 32.13
BEast: 30.05
AAC: 29.85
MWC: 20.01
A10: 9.98
MVC: 9.16
Ivy: 6.38
CUSA: 6.21
MAC: 5.69
WCC: 5.36
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
Horizon: 4.17
Big West: 3.19
Big South: 2.44
Summit: 2.05
Sun Belt: 1.54
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
MAAC: 1.09
Patriot: 1.06
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independent: 0
MEAC: 0
NEC: 0
OVC: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0
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TAMU (It's easier to write then your current naZaireme),
I assume that when your averaging a conferences rankings, you are not including schools not on your list, so that they are no zeros averaged in for those schools. Correct?
No, they are included with a score of zero. So seton hall and saint johns drag us down
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TAMU (It's easier to write then your current name),
I assume that when your averaging a conferences rankings, you are not including schools not on your list, so that they are no zeros averaged in for those schools. Correct?
Murray, nice to see you're comfortable in your own skin by pokin' fun at your junk in your new user name, hey?
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Conference ranking updates. Big East took a significant hit because one of our teams *cough*St. John's*cough* went from being favored to land a 5 star, to being favored to score a goose egg. Butler also lost out on Derrick Smits, one of their top targets, to....Valpo. With St. John's and Seton Hall dragging us down, the BEast is toward the lower end of the power conferences. Fortunately, there is still a huge gap between the top 7 and the MWC. And even bigger drop from the MWC to the other conferences.
SEC: 40.58
PAC 12: 37.13
B1G: 36.23
ACC: 34.03
B12: 32.13
BEast: 30.05
AAC: 29.85
MWC: 20.01
A10: 9.98
MVC: 9.16
Ivy: 6.38
CUSA: 6.21
MAC: 5.69
WCC: 5.36
Atlantic Sun: 4.74
Horizon: 4.17
Big West: 3.19
Big South: 2.44
Summit: 2.05
Sun Belt: 1.54
Colonial: 1.41
Southern: 1.31
MAAC: 1.09
Patriot: 1.06
America East: 0
Big Sky: 0
Independent: 0
MEAC: 0
NEC: 0
OVC: 0
Southland: 0
SWAC: 0
WAC: 0
It looks like there is still some life in the St. Johns recruiting process. It would be good for the Big East if they could pick up one or more of the kids they had in for their midnight madness.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/briscoe-diallo-sampson-headline-st-johns-midnight-madness/#more-123046
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It looks like there is still some life in the St. Johns recruiting process. It would be good for the Big East if they could pick up one or more of the kids they had in for their midnight madness.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/briscoe-diallo-sampson-headline-st-johns-midnight-madness/#more-123046
They had a great lineup at madness, but I feel like St. John's always does this. They spend all their time recruiting 5 stars that they have little chance at landing. The only 5 star they have landed since Levin has been there is (correct me if I'm wrong) Rysheed Jordan in 2013. I really don't see Briscoe, Diallo, or Sampson ending up with SJU. Then they will be left scrambling for recruits...just like 2014.
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They had a great lineup at madness, but I feel like St. John's always does this. They spend all their time recruiting 5 stars that they have little chance at landing. The only 5 star they have landed since Levin has been there is (correct me if I'm wrong) Rysheed Jordan in 2013. I really don't see Briscoe, Diallo, or Sampson ending up with SJU. Then they will be left scrambling for recruits...just like 2014.
They clearly don't understand the bright lights of Lavinwood.
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They had a great lineup at madness, but I feel like St. John's always does this. They spend all their time recruiting 5 stars that they have little chance at landing. The only 5 star they have landed since Levin has been there is (correct me if I'm wrong) Rysheed Jordan in 2013. I really don't see Briscoe, Diallo, or Sampson ending up with SJU. Then they will be left scrambling for recruits...just like 2014.
Maybe I spoke too soon. Jerry Meyer just switched his pick for Briscoe to SJU. He's one of the few I actually trust.
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Murray, nice to see you're comfortable in your own skin by pokin' fun at your junk in your new user name, hey?
Ouch! Please don't use "pokin'" and "your junk" in the same sentence.