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jakeec

Some real funny comments here from what was written a year ago about Mayo.

keefe

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 30, 2014, 08:24:49 PM

See I don't see how this makes any sense.  Todd leaving right after Wojo started, or even back in May, would have made more sense for both parties.  He gets to start off his professional career in the right way.  And MU can try to find someone to take his scholarship.

Now both the program and him are behind the eight ball.

there was a time to cure period


Death on call

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I think this means we are officially in a rebuilding year next season. But it may make us better in 15-16. All in all, if we had to lose a player, mayo would be on the short list of candidates for me
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GGGG

Quote from: jakeec on July 30, 2014, 09:10:36 PM
Some real funny comments here from what was written a year ago about Mayo.


I'm sure you could select a couple to masturbate over, but most people here aren't surprised.

ChicosBailBonds


wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 30, 2014, 08:15:59 PM
Anyone wanna speculate when mikehunt reports this chit?

He already did so.  Said Todd it was "likely" that Todd would be playing in Europe.  Good chit as always from Mike Hunt.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: WarriorFan on July 30, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
So, he wasn't Creaned and he wasn't Buzz Cut, was he told to find a new house key?

Reverse Buzz Cut.   Some will know what I mean by that statement.  LW is chuckling somewhere.

MU82

Quote from: WarriorFan on July 30, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
So, he wasn't Creaned and he wasn't Buzz Cut, was he told to find a new house key?

Um ... WoJobbed?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

rocky_warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 30, 2014, 08:24:49 PM

See I don't see how this makes any sense.  Todd leaving right after Wojo started, or even back in May, would have made more sense for both parties.  He gets to start off his professional career in the right way.  And MU can try to find someone to take his scholarship.

Now both the program and him are behind the eight ball.

Perhaps he needed the summer semesters in order to leave in good academic standing...?  That's what makes sense to me.

wadesworld

Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 30, 2014, 09:36:42 PM
Perhaps he needed the summer semesters in order to leave in good academic standing...?  That's what makes sense to me.

He only took part in 1 session.  And I doubt Todd had any care about whether he was leaving MU in good academic standing or not.

GGGG

Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 30, 2014, 09:36:42 PM
Perhaps he needed the summer semesters in order to leave in good academic standing...?  That's what makes sense to me.


That makes sense from MU's point of view (APR score), but why would that make sense from Todd's?  Is he going to finish his degree?

And is it worth it to forego pre draft camps, team tryouts, and a spot in the summer league?

The Equalizer

Mayo's departure is a direct result of the moves last year to be eligible for the 2nd semester.

Recall midway through the first semester last year that he was declared ineligible according to NCAA rules. When that happens mid semester, its not a GPA issue--because the GPA isn't reported mid-semester. The most likely reason was that he dropped course load below the NCAA mandated minimum (6 or 12 credits--I can't recall which applied). That kept him out of the lineup first semester, but the move preserved the GPA in his remaining courses so he'd be eligible the 2nd semester.

The problem (which we all should have foreseen) was that Todd would have to carry a heavier course load 2nd semester and over the summer in order to reach the 60% of his degree to show academic progress--per the NCAA, you need to complete 60% of the credits required for a degree to be eligible as a senior. 

Having dropped a bunch of courses in the fall of his junior year, and probably not having taken a heavy load prior to that point, getting to that 60% mark before the fall 2014 semester began was likely a difficult proposition at best--and now that we're well into the summer term, likely realized it was impossible.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: The Equalizer on July 30, 2014, 10:01:06 PM
Mayo's departure is a direct result of the moves last year to be eligible for the 2nd semester.

Recall midway through the first semester last year that he was declared ineligible according to NCAA rules. When that happens mid semester, its not a GPA issue--because the GPA isn't reported mid-semester. The most likely reason was that he dropped course load below the NCAA mandated minimum (6 or 12 credits--I can't recall which applied). That kept him out of the lineup first semester, but the move preserved the GPA in his remaining courses so he'd be eligible the 2nd semester.

The problem (which we all should have foreseen) was that Todd would have to carry a heavier course load 2nd semester and over the summer in order to reach the 60% of his degree to show academic progress--per the NCAA, you need to complete 60% of the credits required for a degree to be eligible as a senior. 

Having dropped a bunch of courses in the fall of his junior year, and probably not having taken a heavy load prior to that point, getting to that 60% mark before the fall 2014 semester began was likely a difficult proposition at best--and now that we're well into the summer term, likely realized it was impossible.

That was sophomore year, not junior year. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/marquette-todd-mayo-academically-ineligible-latest-mishap-o-180725492--ncaab.html

mileskishnish72

Don't know anything about team chemistry, relationship with Buzz, etc. Was counting on him for some O this year. He had some great moments - I think it was at the Jimmy V vs. UW when he had a thunderous jam. There was a game or two last year when he was the force. Best post I've seen on Todd referred to the unfulfilled potential - it's oh, so true. Good luck, Todd, but I don't see big things in your Bball future. I think this makes this year a "bridge year" but it's probably a step in Wojo's Dukification of MU.

Nevada233

Todd is 23 years old and will be 24 by the end of this NCAA season. Which is a huge red flag for NBA Gm's.

Todd also was not the prototypical Wojo recruit, he also felt entitled for the team to be ran through him this year and that wasnt gonna happen so it was his time to go.

Lets not be silly and think hes gonna be on a NBA roster any time soon but he did have some talent.

That armed with a super rich nba brother makes leaving school an easy decision.

AZWarrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 30, 2014, 08:24:49 PM

See I don't see how this makes any sense.  Todd leaving right after Wojo started, or even back in May, would have made more sense for both parties.  He gets to start off his professional career in the right way.  And MU can try to find someone to take his scholarship.

Now both the program and him are behind the eight ball.

I follow and agree with your logic.  The fact that Todd waited (?) until now is irrational and apparently consistent with his prior behavior.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: AZWarrior on July 30, 2014, 10:48:43 PM
I follow and agree with your logic.  The fact that Todd waited (?) until now is irrational and apparently consistent with his prior behavior.

Think more broadly....LW...Buzz...Mayo.   

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Nevada233 on July 30, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
Todd is 23 years old and will be 24 by the end of this NCAA season. Which is a huge red flag for NBA Gm's.

Lets not be silly and think hes gonna be on a NBA roster any time soon but he did have some talent.


I've seen his age referenced a few times in this thread.  Give me a break, his being 23 now, 24 by next June would not be a "red flag" that you and others speak of.  The fact that his game is nowhere near good enough, consistent enough, is the red flag on him.  If a guy can play at an NBA level, you really think they're going to quibble about drafting a guy in his mid-20's to start his career?  Of course they're not going to.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: bilsu on July 30, 2014, 08:54:52 PM
My take on this is that Mayo realized that Wojo was not going to start him and that led to him quitting. As I said before everyone is happy with Wojo until they find out they are not starting or not playing much. To be honest the player I was worried the most about being unhappy with this year's playing time was JJJ. With Mayo leaving that gives a lot more opportunity to JJJ and I am happy with that.

You were worried about him being unhappy?!?  Is this CYO basketball we're following?  Whether Mayo would have stayed, or now that he's going, the onus is on Johnson alone to show whether or not he can play and contribute at this level.   And if he can play, he would/will find his way to minutes and a role.  Guys with talent are going to force coaches into giving them minutes.  Plus, there were only 10 other eligible players besides Johnson before Mayo left. 

I want Johnson to succeed like all of our players, and he obviously will get more opportunity now, but with or without Mayo's presence this year, JJJ will get his opportunity regardless.  Plus, as I stated, if a guy can play, a coach will find a way to get him in there. 

GB Warrior

It's not the right decision, but you gotta get what's yours. Best of luck to Todd personally and professionally. Hope he keeps himself out of trouble and can be a player and person Marquette is proud to own.

In related news, who here is happy that we have Wojo and were able to keep JJJ?

ChitownSpaceForRent

All these comments that are ripping Todd a new one disgust me. Yea he made some mistakes but you shouldn't be mad at him. He did nothing to you Personally. I wish the best of luck to Todd wherever he ends up.

AZWarrior

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on July 30, 2014, 10:57:26 PM
Think more broadly....LW...Buzz...Mayo.   

Ok.  OK.  In my defense, I've been drinking Kiltlifters.   :)
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

keefe

Quote from: AZWarrior on July 30, 2014, 11:33:32 PM
Ok.  OK.  In my defense, I've been drinking Kiltlifters.   :)

Hopefully, in your defense, you are drinking that superb Scotch Ale from Pike Brewing and not that sludge from Four Peaks...


Death on call

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: AZWarrior on July 30, 2014, 11:33:32 PM
Ok.  OK.  In my defense, I've been drinking Kiltlifters.   :)

Speaking of Kilts, saw the Outlander premier the other day for Starz down in San Diego...if you read the books you would get the kilt reference.  Pretty good series.

For Mayo...hope he does well in his new endeavors.  Also hope he has the good sense of just moving on, otherwise someone in Blacksburg might feel warm under the collar.

Wojo'sMojo

Mayo has always been very inconsistent and I don't think this will be too much of a loss. I'm actually excited he's leaving, as it opens the door for more playing time for JJJ. I now think JJJ is going to lead this team in scoring next year...he's a stud and I think we are all going to think of this as a blessing in disguise very early on next season.

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