[PaintTouches]Buzz offers his explanation for MU departure

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Buzz offers his explanation for MU departure

"Whatever's in the bottle, when it's tipped over, will come out," Buzz Williams lectured his basketball pupils in 2010. "When it's tipped over, whatever is in you will come out. That will be your character being revealed." One of the lasting phrases Buzz instilled into the Marquette lexicon during his tenure was that of character [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=11867&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />

Source: Buzz offers his explanation for MU departure

[bilsu]

Buzz needs to feel loved. Everybody loves a winner and nobody loves a loser. He needs to win at Virginia Tech and I am sure the VT fans are envisioning going to NCAA very soon. Going to VT to for lower expectations only works for one or two years.

[MUDPT]

Bravo, Paint Touches.  Great, great article.  As I mentioned on a previous thread, Hanner quoted a couple of weeks ago, VPI is one of 2? schools in D1 whose efficiency went down the last 4 years straight. Nowhere to go but up.

[4everwarriors]

He is one, strange, lovable, motherfooker. Felt the heat and grabbed the first gig that would pay him big shekels before the whole charade went down. I know, for a fact, Bumstead went after the Auburn job that Pearl snatched.

[NickelDimer]

Buzz needs to feel loved. Everybody loves a winner and nobody loves a loser. He needs to win at Virginia Tech and I am sure the VT fans are envisioning going to NCAA very soon. Going to VT to for lower expectations only works for one or two years.

I think it's realistic to expect Buzz to take them to new heights, (not saying much), given his ability to recruit which is unquestioned.  Then the VT fanbase and media will laud him and stroke his ego as he clearly desires above all else.

Excellent article PT.  Knocked it out of the park. My only hope is GP reads it

[Wojo'sMojo]

I think it's realistic to expect Buzz to take them to new heights, (not saying much), given his ability to recruit which is unquestioned.  Then the VT fanbase and media will laud him and stroke his ego as he clearly desires above all else.

Excellent article PT.  Knocked it out of the park. My only hope is GP reads it

I hope Buzz reads it too.

[Spotcheck Billy]

this too:

Parrish states Isaac Chew is an assistant with Virginia Tech, but I've sent seven emails to their SID and he still hasn't confirmed that. It also isn't on the website. In fact, VT is the only school to not have officially filled its coaching vacancies, which have been open for almost three months now. You may ask what my obsession with this may be, and you'd be right to think it's not normal, but I'm waiting to pull a Buzz and file an FOIA on Chew's contract to see the terms of the deal and how they compare to his terms at MU. So long as the hiring isn't official, VT has no responsibility to abide by my FOIA request. The struggle is real.

[classof70]

Good analysis.  I must admit I feel a little sorry for Buzz and the demons he carries with him.   Nonetheless, the way he left Marquette, in my opinion, showed his true character--a little bit of the huckster or charlatan.  The reported reaction of his former players, if true,  says volumes.   I think we should put him behind us and move on.  He's simply not worth the emotional capital.

[Skatastrophy]

Some people are good at running startups. Some people are good at growing you from a $1MM company to a $500MM company. Some people are talented at running large successful corporations.

Buzz capped his talents out at MU and exited for a place that he could rebuild. He's never rebuilt before. He ditched the NO job when it was too tough, and he was handed a sweet gig at MU. Time will tell if Buzz knows himself well enough to put himself into positions that he can be successful or not. He's proven that he has no qualms about leaving place that he, for whatever reason, doesn't believe he'll continue to be successful.

Odd duck.

[NickelDimer]

Some people are good at running startups. Some people are good at growing you from a $1MM company to a $500MM company. Some people are talented at running large successful corporations.

Buzz capped his talents out at MU and exited for a place that he could rebuild. He's never rebuilt before. He ditched the NO job when it was too tough, and he was handed a sweet gig at MU. Time will tell if Buzz knows himself well enough to put himself into positions that he can be successful or not. He's proven that he has no qualms about leaving place that he, for whatever reason, doesn't believe he'll continue to be successful.

Odd duck.

The article makes it clear Buzz sees failure as an inevitablity.  Such a strange approach to a career anywhere.  Maybe he deserves credit for having a very good sense of his limitations. 

[RubyWiscy]

What I still don't get is Buzz' paranoia about maintaining success. Buzz' teams got stronger and went further each year save his last. There was every indication MU would be even better going into 2013. Plus Buzz had a top 10 recruiting class coming in for 2014. I understand that the BE got weaker and FS1 was starting at the bottom, but MU was poised to take another big step up and potentially dominate the BE for the next few years.  

Maybe he was taking a long-term view of things. I think more likely there was more going on behind the scenes as has been alleged. From an outside fan/observer perspective though, there was no indication that momentum at MU was starting to falter going into 2013.

[starting5]

this too:

Parrish states Isaac Chew is an assistant with Virginia Tech, but I've sent seven emails to their SID and he still hasn't confirmed that. It also isn't on the website. In fact, VT is the only school to not have officially filled its coaching vacancies, which have been open for almost three months now. You may ask what my obsession with this may be, and you'd be right to think it's not normal, but I'm waiting to pull a Buzz and file an FOIA on Chew's contract to see the terms of the deal and how they compare to his terms at MU. So long as the hiring isn't official, VT has no responsibility to abide by my FOIA request. The struggle is real.

Chew is on Buzz's staff, family is in the process of relocating to Blacksburg.  #DONEDEAL

[CoachRaymondsClass]

I liked Williams but I never thought that he was perfect.

That said, I think that Williams exhibits a behavior often seen by employees who are fired, laid-off or told "it would be better to look for another opportunity." So they criticize their former employer to rationalize the departure. Quirky guy that Williams is, he carries it to the extreme with studies etc.

He worked hard and achieved at MU. He also had some messes of varying degree. Paint Touches nailed him about his character inconsistencies. Some other juicy tidbits about what he is doing about his coaches (for sidestepping recruiting rules ?) and the dropping of twitter relationships with practically all remaining players. Where would Williams be today without MU?  He came up with a new job because of MU. He ought to just let go of his rejection.

[barfolomew]

There is one thing that becomes clearer to me with each new piece of information that is revealed about The Departure. It does not really matter what the actual chain of events was that led to it; a cancer was growing somewhere, and its removal means that Marquette basketball will be healthier in the long run.

[willie warrior]

"Odd Duck"; "Quirky"; "Strange". Here is the real deal:

Phony.

[Tums Festival]

Brent is a piece of trash, plain and simple.

[The Lens]

Brent is a piece of trash, plain and simple.

Maybe, but he was the only coach we've had since Al that had me thinking we could win it all.

#AllInOnWojo

[NersEllenson]

There is one thing that becomes clearer to me with each new piece of information that is revealed about The Departure. It does not really matter what the actual chain of events was that led to it; a cancer was growing somewhere, and its removal means that Marquette basketball will be healthier in the long run.

Well said.  The relationship between Buzz and MU ran its course.  Best for both parties to move on, yet in some ways really sad that Buzz ultimately in ways let his success get to his head, become more high maintenance and in so doing forgot about how good of thing he had going at MU and could have built long term.  Sadly last year he changed....as he really and truly lost that whole team...for the first time in his MU tenure...

Also pretty sure Buzz unfollowing all of his former MU guys (other than Juan) likely was a result of having to see tweets that were positive about Wojo...and the new atmosphere being a breath of fresh air.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Maybe, but he was the only coach we've had since Al that had me thinking we could win it all.

#AllInOnWojo

Never thought that because we never got close to that far.  Only one coach since Al got us into the last weekend.

[The Lens]

Never thought that because we never got close to that far.  Only one coach since Al got us into the last weekend.

And that coach could never us to the 2nd weekend again.  And he had 5 more cracks at it after Robert Jackson graduated.

Buzz had us playing on the 2nd weekend 3 years in a row and then he brought in ESPN's 11th ranked class.  There was reason for optimism.

[ChicosBailBonds]

And that coach could never us to the 2nd weekend again.  And he had 5 more cracks at it after Robert Jackson graduated.

Buzz had us playing on the 2nd weekend 3 years in a row and then he brought in ESPN's 11th ranked class.  There was reason for optimism.

Yup, it's a crapshoot.   That ESPN 11th ranked class got us nothing, not even a NIT.  You just never know.

My point is to win it all, you have to get close.  Only once since Al have we played in that last weekend.  That week leading up to that game, you start to have illusions of grandeur, hopes of winning it all.  Every Final Four team does.  Those dreams were dashed quickly, just like dreams of even getting to the Final Four again were dashed quickly in the first half against Syracuse.

[Lennys Tap]

And that coach could never us to the 2nd weekend again.  And he had 5 more cracks at it after Robert Jackson graduated.

Buzz had us playing on the 2nd weekend 3 years in a row and then he brought in ESPN's 11th ranked class.  There was reason for optimism.

+1000. Buzz had us on the brink of being an elite program for the first and only time since Al. If DWade gets a 17 (or whatever the lowest qualifying number was then) on his ACT there's a very good chance that TC is gone before a team of his plays in an NCAA tournament game, let alone wins one.

[mileskishnish72]

He certainly is one strange dude. Too bad it didn't last here.

[ChicosBailBonds]

+1000. Buzz had us on the brink of being an elite program for the first and only time since Al. If DWade gets a 17 (or whatever the lowest qualifying number was then) on his ACT there's a very good chance that TC is gone before a team of his plays in an NCAA tournament game, let alone wins one.

On the brink...sounds like horseshoes and hand grenades.  Ifs and butts....if Davidson doesn't piss themselves, we don't get out of the first game.  If D-Wade doesn't get whatever score, then we don't go to the Final Four.  If Crean wasn't born, Rome would not have fallen. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

On the brink...sounds like horseshoes and hand grenades.  Ifs and butts....if Davidson doesn't piss themselves, we don't get out of the first game.  If D-Wade doesn't get whatever score, then we don't go to the Final Four.  If Crean wasn't born, Rome would not have fallen. 

Does derailing a thread that wasn't about Crean into a discussion that has been had ad nauseam ever get tiresome to you? 

Probably a stupid question on my part......