Poll: Thrown Overboard

[ChicosBailBonds]

Anybody actually talk to TC since he left?  One of my friends saw him outside of the Holocaust Museum in DC of all places, waited in line behind him to get in.  After introducing himself as an MU grad, TC had nothing but great things to say about Marquette, especially the Final Four.  My friend was surprised at the enthusiasm that he had for two grads after all of those years.

Yes, plenty of people have.  And yes, he has a lot of very good things to say about MU, the program, etc.  Both privately and publicly.  But you really shouldn't have posted that here, it doesn't fit with the meme certain people want you to believe.

What's really funny, there is a key player that came to MU after he left because he basically guided him to MU and to Buzz.  No, I'm not talking about Fischer, but he basically said MU would be a great destination to play at.  People's heads would explode if they knew.

[Dawson Rental]

Yes, plenty of people have.  And yes, he has a lot of very good things to say about MU, the program, etc.  Both privately and publicly.  But you really shouldn't have posted that here, it doesn't fit with the meme certain people want you to believe.

What's really funny, there is a key player that came to MU after he left because he basically guided him to MU and to Buzz.  No, I'm not talking about Fischer, but he basically said MU would be a great destination to play at.  People's heads would explode if they knew.

Derrick Wilson?

[4everwarriors]

This thread asks the wrong question.  The better question would be; "If you were in a fishing boat with Crean and Buzz who would be the first to sight a bigger boat and dive overboard to swim to it?"

Ever seen Crean swim? Mofo makes the Titanic look like a speedboat.

[JakeBarnes]

I'd probably stick with the Tan One if it was the "stranded at sea" situation. At worst, he is guaranteed to have a lifetime stock of diet coke with him so that could sustain us for quite some time. Hearing "aw shucks" won't stop the hunger pangs.

[willie warrior]

Wow. TAMU was commenting on how there's all kinds of posters that post their opinion ad nauseum, not that he thought any of these posters were any more right/wrong than the others. If anything he was defending these posters for their right to post whatever they want how much they want.

Strange take. He was telling people he did not agree with on Buzz to shut up. Much like the current atmosphere in our national capitol on most issues.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

You'd never even know Crean was on the boat. He'd be holding a foil board under his chin. God help you if you block his sun.

[g0lden3agle]

Strange take. He was telling people he did not agree with on Buzz to shut up. Much like the current atmosphere in our national capitol on most issues.

I guess I should be letting TAMU defend himself and not be speaking for him.  But those were all examples of what people could say about those posters.  Not actual criticisms of those posters

[ThatDude]

Why all the Crean hate?

[leever]

Yes, plenty of people have.  And yes, he has a lot of very good things to say about MU, the program, etc.  Both privately and publicly.  But you really shouldn't have posted that here, it doesn't fit with the meme certain people want you to believe.

What's really funny, there is a key player that came to MU after he left because he basically guided him to MU and to Buzz.  No, I'm not talking about Fischer, but he basically said MU would be a great destination to play at.  People's heads would explode if they knew.

I'm willing to take a chance on my head exploding - why don't you share your insider info?

[Lennys Tap]

LOL.  Look, I realize your dreamboat left the program, but I haven't even voted on this poll, but good try.  It's funny, when the voting isn't like you like it, then it must be something mischievous.  What are you, 8 years old?  LOL

Here's proof...read it and weep.  Haven't even voted...just edited the post right below the voting to prove it to you.  As tribute to you, I named the photo "lenny_conspiracy".  Why don't you ask the mods who has voted, since you are now out there accusing people of something they didn't do.

I'm sure you missed it but those of us with a sense of humor around here pretty much gave up on the second grade practice of using teal to connote sarcasm a while back. Sorry you're so childish/thick that you still use it and need it to figure this stuff out. Also sorry that you're short, white and trapped in 2014 when you would be so much happier in 1954 or 1854 (that's sarcasm) and that you're so angry most of the time (that's not).

[Lennys Tap]

I'm willing to take a chance on my head exploding - why don't you share your insider info?

Chico has been promising head exploding insider information about Buzz for years. All foam, no beer.

[NersEllenson]

Where in this thread did TAMU make any comment regarding Buzz's departure? I only see a comment regarding Buzz's low points regarding his entire career

TAMU consistently has been dropping vague statements, yet presented as factual pertaining to the circumstances surrounding Buzz's departure...just as Chicos has done a few times.

The issue is, if people want to drop things as being in the know - then give the actual exact facts you know - you don't have to cite your sources - but flat out come on record and say the specifics about what you are alluding to know.

So - I'd like for TAMU and Chicos to both start threads stating the exact facts as they know them pertaining to all of the details surrounding Buzz's departure, his specific negligent conduct toward staffers, admin, and/or players. 

If you want to act like an insider....then give the specifics about what your sources tell you...without revealing the source..if they understandably prefer.

[leever]

TAMU consistently has been dropping vague statements, yet presented as factual pertaining to the circumstances surrounding Buzz's departure...just as Chicos has done a few times.

The issue is, if people want to drop things as being in the know - then give the actual exact facts you know - you don't have to cite your sources - but flat out come on record and say the specifics about what you are alluding to know.

So - I'd like for TAMU and Chicos to both start threads stating the exact facts as they know them pertaining to all of the details surrounding Buzz's departure, his specific negligent conduct toward staffers, admin, and/or players. 

If you want to act like an insider....then give the specifics about what your sources tell you...without revealing the source..if they understandably prefer.

In order to protect his sources, Chicos could use one of his aliases, maybe Hoopaloop could return?

[willie warrior]

Think about this all this way:

It took a bozo like Buzz to make Crean look good. End of story.

[Lennys Tap]

Think about this all this way:

It took a bozo like Buzz to make Crean look good. End of story.

The exact opposite of what the poll shows. Thanks, Willie.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Derrick Wilson?

LOL.   I chuckled, I really did.

No, not DW.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm sure you missed it but those of us with a sense of humor around here pretty much gave up on the second grade practice of using teal to connote sarcasm a while back. Sorry you're so childish/thick that you still use it and need it to figure this stuff out. Also sorry that you're short, white and trapped in 2014 when you would be so much happier in 1954 or 1854 (that's sarcasm) and that you're so angry most of the time (that's not).

Unfortunately, you aren't funny so it is difficult to find humor in your posts, even when you try really hard.  Secondly, you weren't trying to be funny (nice cop out), it's what you believed (see, I can play psychologist like you do, too) which is why I did the screen shot.  I don't even know what the poll results are, but the irony in calling me angry when you care so much about your prom date and how he figured in a poll, that truly is humorous.

Finally, I'm happy as a clam, anger just makes life shorter...not worth it.  Enjoy Lenny.  Tomorrow isn't guaranteed.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm willing to take a chance on my head exploding - why don't you share your insider info?

The person that shared it with me is still employed by the university, until she\he is no longer there, I will not.  Though, it would not be hard for you to figure it out with not so difficult detective work.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chico has been promising head exploding insider information about Buzz for years. All foam, no beer.

I said for the last few years he is a primma donna in the athletic department, head as big as a pumpkin because I trust the people telling me that had to work with the guy. Of course, you and others got bent in a pretzel when I stated that.  Now the truth is out, and well the corsage you got is starting to wither.

More to come sunshine.  It is clear with your comments you really don't have many connections at all with athletics, otherwise you wouldn't defend the actions you do.

[keefe]

Why all the Crean hate?

I have wondered that, too. Crean is actually a really great guy except for an annoying habit of being an insufferable jackass all of the time. Other than that he is fun to hang out with, burn a gar and swap tales of conquest.

[keefe]

Teddy

Tom

That's the Kopechne family version

[keefe]

The wound of his departure

Is that like, The wound that never heals?

[leever]

The person that shared it with me is still employed by the university, until she\he is no longer there, I will not.  Though, it would not be hard for you to figure it out with not so difficult detective work.

That's fair enough.  I get the whole can't reveal my sources bit.  How about this - as long as you CAN'T spill the beans, how about you just stop with the whole "There's more to come.  I know it.  You don't.  Too bad for you because I won't tell"?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And TAMU, we get that your one true love is the Buzzster. We get that it offends you deeply when he is criticized as a phony--which he is and which you do not believe. We get that you object to hot babes in uniform. We get that you are Mr. Politically Correct and are the Preacher of all things in your belief world. C'mon Man, lighten up a little. This is a MU board as you said. It is just not only your opinion that is righteous here--even though that is part of your mental DNA. You certainly are not going to stop Keefe or Ners from saying what they believe or want to have fun with. After all it is harmless. Unless your quest is to silence other viewpoints. If so, go work for the Feds in the Justice Department.

Funny thing, your blast here seems to center on several of Buzz's biggest critics. Does the truth hurt? We know how you opine for the Buzzster. likely you are following VT's every basketball move, which is a good thing, because you can keep us up to date on the Buzzster.

Willie, honest question, did you read the conversation at all before jumping in? Let me break it down for you.

Another poster, Hutchwas IIRC, said Buzz had one lowpoint, the McClvaine interview.

I came in and said "Buzz had a lot more than one lowpoint." So I was actually taking a shot at Buzz.

Wojo's came in and complained that I allude to knowing things but don't share. He used this quote:

TAMU, we get that you think that you know lots more info on what happened with Buzz than a majority of us on the board...at least you have been insinuating it enough lately. To keep making veiled references as to what was going on, or happened with his departure serves nobody on this board any good. If you know what happened great! There is no need to keep making vague statements however.

In an attempt to show him that most of us are guilty of repeating the same thing over and over on scoop, I took direct quotes from his post and inserted other examples. I used "(Insert poster) We get..... (insert example)" "To keep.....(insert example).....serves nobody on this board any good. If you....(insert example)....great! There is no need to keep....(insert example)."

I used three examples, Wojo's Mojo because he was the OP, and you and Ners because you have well known opinions that you have repeated ad naseum.

Willie, I know you think I am this naive child with stars in my eyes who tries to shut out anyone who says anything negative. If that were true, I would have left Scoop for IWB's board months ago. You may have noticed that about half of scoop has you on ignore. I do not, despite the fact that you routinely hurl insults at me.

We are two posters who happen to disagree. That doesn't mean for a second that I would ever want you or any other critic silenced. I will debate your arguments, I will point out their flaws, and I will call you out when use bad logic or stoop to attacking. But I will never criticize someone for having a differing opinion.

Also, I love Keefe's photos of israeli military women. Not sure where you got that I hate them.

[Lennys Tap]

I said for the last few years he is a primma donna in the athletic department, head as big as a pumpkin because I trust the people telling me that had to work with the guy. Of course, you and others got bent in a pretzel when I stated that.  Now the truth is out, and well the corsage you got is starting to wither.

More to come sunshine.  It is clear with your comments you really don't have many connections at all with athletics, otherwise you wouldn't defend the actions you do.

Please refeference your posts from 3 years ago where you said Buzz was a prima donna. Then try 2 years ago. Then 1 year ago. I can certainly find posts from 3 years ago, 2 years ago, etc., when you were saying how much you liked the guy, but I don't recall you calling him a prima donna or a pumpkin head until very recently. I call total BS.

As to your "more to come" I'm confident nothing will come from you other than attempts to piggy back others. You've got what the little boy shot at - nothin'.