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Jay Bee

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2015

I don't get into these rankings much other than to see if there are guys I think folks are way off on.

There remains some on the list.. and I'll share a couple in this post. But first.. onto Henry. My thoughts on him go back years and have been consistent.. but even on this board.. some of the recent commentary:

April 2013
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 12, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
Henry is currently underrated in rankings and has the potential to be an exceptional college player. As his ball handling, speed & quickness improve the reality of being a 3/4 in college becomes more and more realizable. His skills are there. He can get down low and bang, but likes to run & work on the perimeter as well.

He's played a number of different ways in high school, AAU, at camps (including playing with the 'bigs' group at the US MDNT camp along with/against Diamond)... getting quite well rounded.

June 2013
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 13, 2013, 06:57:16 PM
MU is in the mix and those that have him ranked in the upper 20's have him underrated.

Early April 2014
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 05, 2014, 07:51:19 AM
Playground Elite Wilson (YUS!) - Henry "HenBA" Ellenson has of course been one of my favorites for a long while. Underrated nationally - let's watch the respect elevate.

Finally ESPN has seen what's always been evident. They've put him at #5.

Rivals has him at #56. Scout at #62. Crazy. They'll figure it out as well.

Now, onto some other guys who may be 'values' at their current ranking.. i.e., they are better than their newest ESPN ranking... and some other guys I just have random comments on...

Brandon Ingram #12. Not kidding.
Dwayne Bacon at #40. C'mon now. Big time. Had MU interest from the former clan... Floridian.
(Right below him at #41 is Teki Gill-Caeser... from CIA Bounce [Canada].. has MU interest and there are similarities between him and a recent MU cager -- Wesley Matthews. Keep an eye on dude.)
(Nick N. is in at #50.. sounds fine.)
Georgetown has some big boys coming in.. Jessie Govan (#48) and Noah Dickerson (#66)... both could move up.
..and one I can't stress enough. #77 Horace Spencer. 77?! That is crazy talk. Watch for him to R I S E. Great year though.

edit: Oh yeah, I'll give you one more. Damontrae Jefferson isn't even on the list. Brewtown's own is sensational.
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Newsdreams

Quote from: Jay Bee on June 03, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2015

I don't get into these rankings much other than to see if there are guys I think folks are way off on.

There remains some on the list.. and I'll share a couple in this post. But first.. onto Henry. My thoughts on him go back years and have been consistent.. but even on this board.. some of the recent commentary:

April 2013
June 2013
Early April 2014
Finally ESPN has seen what's always been evident. They've put him at #5.

Rivals has him at #56. Scout at #62. Crazy. They'll figure it out as well.

Now, onto some other guys who may be 'values' at their current ranking.. i.e., they are better than their newest ESPN ranking... and some other guys I just have random comments on...

Brandon Ingram #12. Not kidding.
Dwayne Bacon at #40. C'mon now. Big time. Had MU interest from the former clan... Floridian.
(Right below him at #41 is Teki Gill-Caeser... from CIA Bounce [Canada].. has MU interest and there are similarities between him and a recent MU cager -- Wesley Matthews. Keep an eye on dude.)
(Nick N. is in at #50.. sounds fine.)
Georgetown has some big boys coming in.. Jessie Govan (#48) and Noah Dickerson (#66)... both could move up.
..and one I can't stress enough. #77 Horace Spencer. 77?! That is crazy talk. Watch for him to R I S E. Great year though.

edit: Oh yeah, I'll give you one more. Damontrae Jefferson isn't even on the list. Brewtown's own is sensational.
Even just for the name we need Bacon!!
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

I liked what Finklstein was saying about Ellenson, especially the bolded section

Quote2. Oh, Henry. No player has made a more dramatic jump up the rankings than Henry Ellenson, who went all the way from No. 47 to No. 5 in the ESPN 100. Ellenson averaged 18 points and 9 rebounds per game for Playground Elite during the EYBL season, showing a versatile and unique game for a 6-foot-9 power forward, all while continuing to raise his level of his production with each passing week. He can shoot the ball from the 3-point line but is also a threat to put the ball on the floor. He is perhaps most effective when he's able to get out and run in transition.

I like the idea of a true big who is most effective when he's in transition
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Charles Matthews fell about 20 slots. Coach Cal has been going hard after Malik Newman. This is admittedly a stretch, but if Matthews gets recruited over, he may think about taking his services elsewhere. Extremely unlikely but a man can dream!
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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MarquetteDano

Thanks Jay Bee.  If Stone and Ellenson end up RSCI Top10, will that be the first time two Wisconsinites end up in the Top 10?

WarriorHal

Do we have a realistic chance of landing Stone and/or Ellenson? One more than the other?

wadesworld

Quote from: WarriorHal on June 03, 2014, 10:41:16 PM
Do we have a realistic chance of landing Stone and/or Ellenson? One more than the other?

We will not get either.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
We will not get either.

We will get both. Anything less is unacceptable. Beware Wojo, Willie is watching.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
We will not get either.

Probably correct. But you have no information to justify making a definitive statement.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


BM1090

Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
We will not get either.

Wouldn't be so sure on Ellenson. Stone isn't gonna happen.

ChitownSpaceForRent

How Jalen Brunson is only 22nd I will never know. Kid is the best high school basketball player I've seen since Derrick Rose.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 03, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
We will get both. Anything less is unacceptable. Beware Wojo, Willie is watching.


Of course, unacceptable doesn't mean that anything should happen to Wojo, it just means that MU should accept the unacceptable.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: LittleMurs on June 04, 2014, 05:56:24 PM
Of course, unacceptable doesn't mean that anything should happen to Wojo, it just means that MU should accept the unacceptable.

Exactly

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MUEagle1090 on June 04, 2014, 04:44:26 PM
Wouldn't be so sure on Ellenson. Stone isn't gonna happen.

In Diamond's top 3, Ellenson's top 5.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Atticus

Sean millers teams are fun to watch - tall, long, and all uber athletic. He's a heck of a recruiter. He has #23 and #24. He seems to have a roster full of switchables but all of them are SF's instead of guards.

O$U with #43, #62, #87

$yracuse with #15, #44, #59, #70

Lennys Tap

Quote from: chitownwarrior2011 on June 04, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
How Jalen Brunson is only 22nd I will never know. Kid is the best high school basketball player I've seen since Derrick Rose.

Never seen him but hear that offensively he has it all. Only (slight) problem is he's closer to 6' than the 6'2" he's listed at - pretty short for a 2 guard.

LAZER

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 04, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
Never seen him but hear that offensively he has it all. Only (slight) problem is he's closer to 6' than the 6'2" he's listed at - pretty short for a 2 guard.

Villanova has a good shot at landing Brunson

wadesworld

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 04, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
In Diamond's top 3, Ellenson's top 5.

Just like when Madison was in Tokoto's and Looney's top 5s.

drewm88

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 04, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Probably correct. But you have no information to justify making a definitive statement.

+1

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: wadesworld on June 04, 2014, 11:33:03 PM
Just like when Madison was in Tokoto's and Looney's top 5s.

Madison was. They didn't get either. But they were in the running until the very end. If you had come out a month before Tokoto or Looney announced and said "they are not going to Madison," you would have been lodging a guess, not stating a fact. Just like you are doing now.

This is a fan board. It is a great place to log predictions. I get annoyed when people try to pass predictions off as facts.

MU being in Diamond's top 3 and Ellenson's top 5 is a FACT as of two weeks ago. I have not asked about either since then. Unless you have fresher information, saying neither will come to Marquette at this point is an OPINION.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


wadesworld

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 05, 2014, 12:50:56 AM
Madison was. They didn't get either. But they were in the running until the very end. If you had come out a month before Tokoto or Looney announced and said "they are not going to Madison," you would have been lodging a guess, not stating a fact. Just like you are doing now.

This is a fan board. It is a great place to log predictions. I get annoyed when people try to pass predictions off as facts.

MU being in Diamond's top 3 and Ellenson's top 5 is a FACT as of two weeks ago. I have not asked about either since then. Unless you have fresher information, saying neither will come to Marquette at this point is an OPINION.


You'd be surprised.

willie warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 03, 2014, 11:32:12 PM
We will get both. Anything less is unacceptable. Beware Wojo, Willie is watching.

Yes, I am. But one thing you are missing Lenny: The phony downhome lonesome dufus would not have landed either.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Lennys Tap

Quote from: willie warrior on June 05, 2014, 07:15:33 AM
Yes, I am. But one thing you are missing Lenny: The phony downhome lonesome dufus would not have landed either.

1 You don't know that.

2.What difference does it make, he's not our coach.

3. If it would have been "unacceptable" for Buzz not to land a top 5 big man from our home state will it be twice as unacceptable (double secret probation?) if Wojo misses on both? Just checking to see if there's any consistency to your outrageous "demands".

Jay Bee

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 04, 2014, 09:58:21 PM
Never seen him but hear that offensively he has it all. Only (slight) problem is he's closer to 6' than the 6'2" he's listed at - pretty short for a 2 guard.

He's a point guard.

Nonetheless, I think ~20-25 is an appropriate ranking for him.
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