Hiroshima?

[goinUptown]

Wasn't the essence of what was termed "Hiroshima" on this board that the administration would "clean" things up in terms of not allowing JUCOs (as a matter of course) and raising academic standards for the players?  And by replacing Buzz with Wojo, it seems the administration has brought in a coach who will not pursue JUCOs and toe the line on grades.  Is this a sort of sea change at MU and in line with the concept of Hiroshima put forth earlier on this board?

goinUptown

[ThatDude]

Valid post.

You may be on to something

[Tugg Speedman]

Hiroshima was also described as turning our program into SLU (St. Louis U).  Posters here freaked out at the concept.

BTW, how did SLU do this year?  How did we do this year?

[tower912]

In one version of the narrative, the events known as Hiroshima did ultimately lead to Buzz leaving.   

[Dawson Rental]

Wasn't the essence of what was termed "Hiroshima" on this board that the administration would "clean" things up in terms of not allowing JUCOs (as a matter of course) and raising academic standards for the players?  And by replacing Buzz with Wojo, it seems the administration has brought in a coach who will not pursue JUCOs and toe the line on grades.  Is this a sort of sea change at MU and in line with the concept of Hiroshima put forth earlier on this board?

goinUptown

Not really.  IIRC, Hiroshima was to include player(s) who were eligible to play by NCAA standards, and who had met the standards that they were told they would need to meet beforehand, would be made ineligible due to standards being raised by Marquette and then applied retroactively.  This never happened, presumably because cooler heads prevailed.

Pilarz and Larry Williams were known to have dictated changes to Buzz on how some aspects of the program were to be handled, and then fired Buzz's best coaching buddy, Scott Monarch-not for a minor recruiting violation-but for lying about it initially to the athletic department.  With Pilarz let go by the BOT and then Larry Williams reportedly losing a power struggle in the athletic department with Buzz, I'm not sure how much of those changes remained in place.  In the original Hiroshima scenario, Buzz was supposed to be gone with Pilarz and Larry Williams still standing-the we'll become SLU scenario.  Instead, Pilarz and Larry Williams are both gone and Buzz has left anyway-I'll call this result (MAD) mutually assured destruction.  

We now live in a hopefully wiser post-apocalyptic world where everyone from the BOT, the University President, the AD, and the Head Basketball Coach have a similar vision that will still allow Marquette to be a major player in Division I basketball.

The End.

[Dawson Rental]

Hiroshima was also described as turning our program into SLU (St. Louis U).  Posters here freaked out at the concept.

BTW, how did SLU do this year?  How did we do this year?

A SLU basketball program not driven entirely (some remain, but not enough to be virtually the entire rotation) by Rick Majerus recruits is now upon us.  We'll see if Jim Crews (who sure as hell can coach) can also recruit enough to keep SLU on the map.

[keefe]

Bert's Leaving: What we feared





Bert's Leaving: The reality

[Dawson Rental]

Bert's Leaving: What we feared





Bert's Leaving: The reality

Weren't you the one who had that great mock-up of the Enola Gay with Pilarz's and Larry Williams' heads hanging out the windows?

[Anti-Dentite]

I wasn't here at the time but is anyone aware of why Pilarz was summarily discharged? The report I got from people close to the situation is that Pilarz had a bit of a drinking problem and was acting inappropriately with students in the dorm he resided in. I'm not privvy to the details of the inappropriateness but it lead directly to his being let go and the timing of it. It wasn't the result of a power struggle with Buzz, directly anyway. Larry Williamson the other hand, I have no information on his leaving so if someone can fill that part of the story in....

[keefe]

acting inappropriately with students in the dorm he resided

Male or female...

[Anti-Dentite]

Male or female...

Like I said, I don't know the details of the inappropriate actions but it was enough to get him removed immediately.

[The Process]

Weren't you the one who had that great mock-up of the Enola Gay with Pilarz's and Larry Williams' heads hanging out the windows?

I thought that was Stone Cold...?

[Blackhat]

[tower912]

Bert's Leaving: What we feared





Bert's Leaving: The reality

You are assuming.   You haven't seen the product on the floor or whether Wojo can recruit.   

[Dawson Rental]

Ah, there it is, such memories!

[ChicosBailBonds]

I thought that was Stone Cold...?

I thought Stone Cold was on hiatus for talking about lips or something

[4everwarriors]

Wasn't the essence of what was termed "Hiroshima" on this board that the administration would "clean" things up in terms of not allowing JUCOs (as a matter of course) and raising academic standards for the players?  And by replacing Buzz with Wojo, it seems the administration has brought in a coach who will not pursue JUCOs and toe the line on grades.  Is this a sort of sea change at MU and in line with the concept of Hiroshima put forth earlier on this board?

goinUptown

Nah, that was Chernobyl.

[Blackhat]

I thought Stone Cold was on hiatus for talking about lips or something

[keefe]

You are assuming.   You haven't seen the product on the floor or whether Wojo can recruit.  

I assume nothing. You miss the point entirely.

Bert's leaving is a dud

[warriorchick]

I thought Stone Cold was on hiatus for talking about lips or something

Apparently, Stone Cold got the Lindsay Lohan type of sentence.....

[keefe]

I thought Stone Cold was on hiatus for talking about lips or something

I saw an interesting documentary recently on labioplasty. It really illustrates just how corrupt our values have become.


http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/perfect-vagina/

[denverMU]

I wasn't here at the time but is anyone aware of why Pilarz was summarily discharged? The report I got from people close to the situation is that Pilarz had a bit of a drinking problem and was acting inappropriately with students in the dorm he resided in. I'm not privvy to the details of the inappropriateness but it lead directly to his being let go and the timing of it. It wasn't the result of a power struggle with Buzz, directly anyway. Larry Williamson the other hand, I have no information on his leaving so if someone can fill that part of the story in....

Not at all the truth.  Fr. Pilar was let go do to poor alumni relations and very free/excessive spending of the schools money on personal items(travel/remodeling of his apartment).

[ChicosBailBonds]

I saw an interesting documentary recently on labioplasty. It really illustrates just how corrupt our values have become.


http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/perfect-vagina/

Interesting...I forgot the Brits use "fanny" differently than we do.  LOL

[keefe]

Interesting...I forgot the Brits use "fanny" differently than we do.  LOL

Yea, when visiting relatives in Scotland we were heading off for a trek and my wife asked about a fanny pack. She was rarely ever flustered but when she got the translation from Brit speak she was utterly speechless. I never saw her so red faced.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Pilarz/Williams banning JUCOs is a complete fabrication. The expectation that they set was that any recruit Marquette signed must be able to graduate by the time their eligibility runs out. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less. Personally, I feel this is a reasonable expectation.

The reason it got associated with JUCOs is because the policy was started because of a JUCO. There was absolutely ZERO chance that Jae Crowder was going to graduate before his eligibility ran out. He only had two years of eligibility and had less than one one year of accredited college credits. I loved Jae, great player, great human being, but we overlooked his academics to get him in.

People may notice that Jameel McKay, a JUCO, was recruited and signed during the Pilarz/Williams era.

Wojo will recruit whoever he wants. As long as they have the ability to graduate in time....and doesn't do whatever Malek Harris allegedly did