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MU B2002

#50
Quote from: jesmu84 on April 08, 2014, 01:38:07 AM
This thread is a joke.

Yep.


But to clarify a point Wades was getting blasted for trying to make.
A. We did not play UCONN this season.
B. We played them last season, Jake and DW played 16 minutes(off the bench)  Bazz and Boatright combined for 45.  Oh, and we won 82-76.

I believe that was the game that Karl Hess made famous for starting UCONN out towards the wrong basket in OT.


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tower912

Quote from: MU B2002 on April 08, 2014, 08:18:57 AM
Yep.


But to clarify a point Wades was getting blasted for trying to make.
A. We did not play UCONN this season.
B. We played them last season, Jake and DW played 16 out of the 45 minutes(off the bench)  Bazz and Boatright combined for 45.  Oh, and we won 82-76.

I believe that was the game that Karl Hess made famous for starting UCONN out towards the wrong basket in OT.


I think you mean 16 minutes total out of the 90 available at the guard position that game, not 16 out of 45.   But you are correct in spirit. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

KenoshaWarrior

Cause you know Buzz never did anything while he was at Marquette  ::)

Guy had a great guard who decided to leave!!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I hope that Duane is as good as advertised and supplants Derrick as the starter.

But if Wojo starts Derrick, I'm going to enjoy all the reactions on this board.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
I hope that Duane is as good as advertised and supplants Derrick as the starter.

But if Wojo starts Derrick, I'm going to enjoy all the reactions on this board.

He won't start him...I'm sure he would like to make the tourney his first year here. I believe Derrick is a high quality guy. He seems like the type of guy who would tell the coach not to start him just because he is a senior and would be fine coming off the bench. It's the role he is meant to play...no more than 10 minutes a game!

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on April 08, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
He won't start him...I'm sure he would like to make the tourney his first year here. I believe Derrick is a high quality guy. He seems like the type of guy who would tell the coach not to start him just because he is a senior and would be fine coming off the bench. It's the role he is meant to play...no more than 10 minutes a game!

IM 1000000% sure he WONT start Derrick Wilson.

willie warrior

Quote from: KenoshaWarrior on April 08, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Cause you know Buzz never did anything while he was at Marquette  ::)

Guy had a great guard who decided to leave!!
Posted like a true Buzz apologist.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Earl Tatum on April 08, 2014, 07:54:21 AM
One other thing---UConn played BASKETBALL, Kentucky tried to look "Cool" on every shot. Johnson their
Center tried to do an underhand scoop layup. Didn't work. KU played "PUNK" Ball. Play the game way it
should be played. Experience won. One and doners-Bah"

So, Kentucky basketball is punk basketball.  Maybe Wojo can get our guys to play punk ball in his first year.  Losing by only six points in the National Championship game would be nice.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: Earl Tatum on April 08, 2014, 07:54:21 AM
One other thing---UConn played BASKETBALL, Kentucky tried to look "Cool" on every shot. Johnson their
Center tried to do an underhand scoop layup. Didn't work. KU played "PUNK" Ball. Play the game way it
should be played. Experience won. One and doners-Bah"

Lol are u serious or joking?

Groin_pull

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
I hope that Duane is as good as advertised and supplants Derrick as the starter.

But if Wojo starts Derrick, I'm going to enjoy all the reactions on this board.

Outside chance he still starts, but his days of getting 38 minutes a game are over.

Dawson Rental

You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Groin_pull on April 08, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
Outside chance he still starts, but his days of getting 38 minutes a game are over.

Personally, I think he will start at the beginning of the season. Buzz isn't the only coach who values experience at the PG position. But I do think Duane will surpass him by conference play.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


tower912

Hey, that is exactly what I thought would happen LAST year.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

willie warrior

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
I hope that Duane is as good as advertised and supplants Derrick as the starter.

But if Wojo starts Derrick, I'm going to enjoy all the reactions on this board.
You already know that Duane is better than Derrick, which is why Buzz squeezed him into the RS, so he could play his pet, Derrick. Others have said as much on this board.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: willie warrior on April 08, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
You already know that Duane is better than Derrick, which is why Buzz squeezed him into the RS, so he could play his pet, Derrick. Others have said as much on this board.

True. Very true

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2014, 12:58:23 PM
Personally, I think he will start at the beginning of the season. Buzz isn't the only coach who values experience at the PG position. But I do think Duane will surpass him by conference play.

I think he starts on the bench from the get go. If I was the coach, I think it would be harder to sit your senior leader after having him start at the beginning of the year. If he's starting at the beginning of the year, I would expect him to start all year.


WadeATKBurton

#67
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on April 08, 2014, 01:07:52 PM
I think he starts on the bench from the get go. If I was the coach, I think it would be harder to sit your senior leader after having him start at the beginning of the year. If he's starting at the beginning of the year, I would expect him to start all year.

Right. Wojo comes from greatness. He knows that in order to win we will need to have our best 5 players starting which includes a solid point guard. Derrick Wilson shouldnt and wont be in the equation

jesmu84

Quote from: PVMagic on April 08, 2014, 07:36:56 AM
Man... I would have thought the good vibes from the wojo hire would have kept entire threads dedicated to trashing our own players off of this site for at least a week... Didn't quite make it.

expectations too high

tower912

Quote from: atk13thst on April 08, 2014, 01:21:28 PM
Right. Wojo comes from greatness. He knows that in order to win we will need to have our best 5 players starting which includes a solid point guard. Derrick Wilson shouldnt and wont be in the equation

Did you know that Wojo averaged 5.4 points and 3.9 assists as a defensively minded point guard at Duke?  I have no idea how things are going to shake out, but do not assume that he is going to bench a low-turnover, high defensive effort senior.   Think of it as the Duke way.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WadeATKBurton

Quote from: tower912 on April 08, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
Did you know that Wojo averaged 5.4 points and 3.9 assists as a defensively minded point guard at Duke?  I have no idea how things are going to shake out, but do not assume that he is going to bench a low-turnover, high defensive effort senior.   Think of it as the Duke way.  
How long ago was that? 15+ years. You dont get to Final Fours or win a Championship with non scoring STARTING point guards anymore. Wojo knows that!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: atk13thst on April 08, 2014, 01:21:28 PM
Right. Wojo comes from greatness. He knows that in order to win we will need to have our best 5 players starting which includes a solid point guard. Derrick Wilson shouldnt and wont be in the equation

What people still don't understand is that there is a very real possibility that Derek was our best option at PG, even if Duane was healthy.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


WadeATKBurton

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 08, 2014, 01:39:44 PM
What people still don't understand is that there is a very real possibility that Derek was our best option at PG, even if Duane was healthy.

I highly doubt that

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: willie warrior on April 08, 2014, 01:04:11 PM
You already know that Duane is better than Derrick, which is why Buzz squeezed him into the RS, so he could play his pet, Derrick. Others have said as much on this board.

Please point out these posts so I can angrily slurp at them!

In all seriousness, I don't remember reading anything like that besides people who are trying to use the departure of Buzz as proof that the best players rode the bench last season. Which is a huge jump in logic.

And I took your advice and talked to more people close to the program about Duane's redshirt. They still say that there is NOTHING to your claim.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: atk13thst on April 08, 2014, 01:42:44 PM
I highly doubt that

Go to a practice some time. It's the only place that you can see all three of the PGs get an equal shot. From what I have been told, Derek won every time.

Of course what Buzz looks for and Wojo looks for are two different things.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


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