What idiot(s) at MU are on board with a Cuonzo hiring?

[Galway Eagle]

Nice.  Wasn't trying to be critical or anything, just genuinely curious.  It's amazing how many he has that are right in the middle of normal residential neighborhoods.  It's also funny that he is pretty much the sole creditor in the prairie style, and all most people know him for is the Guggenheim and Falling Water, neither of which are prairie.  Haven't been to Taliesin West yet, but its on the bucket list.  I also don't feel at all bad about taking this thread off topic, because it's a pretty stupid and pointless thread anyways.

Yeah it's interesting to me talking to other people about him. Because where I'm from you can't go more than a block without seeing his houses so I didn't learn about falling water or the Guggenheim till way later. Knew him for unity temple and his home/studio.

[The Lens]

You want to talk architects?  Let's talk Frederick Olmsted!  Central Park & Prospect Park, and here in MKE Lake Park, Washington Park and of course the GOAT...the south side's Humboldt Park - adjacent to Bay View HS, home of (JUCO!!!!) Dwight Buycks.

No one can touch Olmsted. 

[Galway Eagle]

You want to talk architects?  Let's talk Frederick Olmsted!  Central Park & Prospect Park, and here in MKE Lake Park, Washington Park and of course the GOAT...the south side's Humboldt Park - adjacent to Bay View HS, home of (JUCO!!!!) Dwight Buycks.

No one can touch Olmsted.

Olmsted did truly incredible work with parks. The whole boulevard system connecting the major parks in Chicago was his project for the world fair. Didn't know he designed MKE's humboldt park as well.

[Its DJOver]

You want to talk architects?  Let's talk Frederick Olmsted!  Central Park & Prospect Park, and here in MKE Lake Park, Washington Park and of course the GOAT...the south side's Humboldt Park - adjacent to Bay View HS, home of (JUCO!!!!) Dwight Buycks.

No one can touch Olmsted.

Landscape Architect is not the same as an Architect.  FLW will also always get homerism in this state.  Not my all-time fav, but can make a strong case for greatest American. 

It's all subjective though, Olmsted certainly has an incredible legacy that few can touch.

[MU82]

Thanks, gentlemen. Your interesting discussion on architects might have actually SAVED this thread, one that should have stayed buried in 2014.

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

Landscape Architect is not the same as an Architect.  FLW will also always get homerism in this state.  Not my all-time fav, but can make a strong case for greatest American. 

It's all subjective though, Olmsted certainly has an incredible legacy that few can touch.

The architect of the Matrix doesn't get enough credit.

[Dr. Blackheart]

FLW only drafts the easy pastiche.

[Cheeks]

It's one thing to lose to SC, but to be manhandled by them is another.  But go figure.....Frank Wright is a great coach.  If Wojo had lost by less than 10 I'd give him some credit.  Of course, I can't and won't have to because Wojo doesn't know how to create a defensive minded system that can win multiple tourney games.   You guys, my following of detractors, cannot seem to process this.  Instead your rebuttal is:  Buttttt the stats say Wojo is better now......   Yes, he's average, up from atrocious.  All you have to do is watch any game and see that the rotations, help, cutting off of passing lanes aren't run in a crisp manner as a unit.  Never have been, never will.  A good coach has his system implemented after he gets his guys into the program.  Wojo has had that time, but never has developed a system.  It's going to take a lot of luck to win multiple tourney games. 

I wanted Wojo to succeed but he just doesn't have the intellect to coach great Xs and Os.

Oh for fuk's sake...the game was a two possession game with 7 minutes to play.  It was a one point game with under 11 minutes to play...are you suggesting Wojo was lucky the first 75% of the game or Martin was just an idiot?  Why not blow us out from the start?  Give it a rest.

[lawdog77]

There are quite a few Wright Houses in Arizona. Taliesin West, of course, but also the Biltmore Hotel, where White Christmas was written. There is one called the Pieper House (given to Anthony Pieper on his quinceanera).

[🏀]

Anyone want to get into it about Urban Planners?

The L'Enfant Plan is overrated.

[The Sultan]

I know two people who own FLW homes.  They are drafty, leak and laid out poorly given the wants and desires of a modern family.  But I guess they look nice.

[Its DJOver]

Anyone want to get into it about Urban Planners?

The L'Enfant Plan is overrated.

As far as I'm concerned when it comes to Urban Planners; there's Haussmann, and then the rest.  No one will ever come close to touching him either, because no one will ever get full control and unlimited money the way he did.  Paris is amazing though.

Agree about the L'Enfant Plan.

[Galway Eagle]

I know two people who own FLW homes.  They are drafty, leak and laid out poorly given the wants and desires of a modern family.  But I guess they look nice.

My best friend since childhood grew up in one. It wasn't too drafty or anything. But the historic society made it a huge pain for them to do any updates. I don't like how dark it was.

What's crazy is seeing his earliest works around where I live. They're wood siding and look almost Victorian.

[🏀]

As far as I'm concerned when it comes to Urban Planners; there's Haussmann, and then the rest.  No one will ever come close to touching him either, because no one will ever get full control and unlimited money the way he did.  Paris is amazing though.

Agree about the L'Enfant Plan.

Couldn't agree more. I have a soft spot for Burnham, but that's going to happen.

[Galway Eagle]

Couldn't agree more. I have a soft spot for Burnham, but that's going to happen.

He's the best of both worlds! Odd question, but did Burnham design houses as well? I can think of buildings around mke and Chicago of his but don't recall ever hearing him connected to houses

[Dr. Blackheart]

Anyone want to get into it about Urban Planners?

The L'Enfant Plan is overrated.

Here is an interesting tidbit on the early plan for DC. 
http://www.boundarystones.org/

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Here is an interesting tidbit on the early plan for DC. 
http://www.boundarystones.org/

I checked out a Boundary Stone in DC a couple years ago, very, very cool.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I checked out a Boundary Stone in DC a couple years ago, very, very cool.

What I didn't know is DC once encompassed Alexandria and Arlington and it was given back to Virginia. 

[Warrior Code]

It's rumored that M. M. O'Shaughnessy designed the first one - the guy who, uh, designed the Golden Gate Bridge. Myyy second favorite civil engineer behind Hannskarl Bandel: Madison Square Garden...

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

What I didn't know is DC once encompassed Alexandria and Arlington and it was given back to Virginia.

I think it's in How the States Got Their Shape book.  It wasn't given back, so much as it was taken back by Virginia.

[Loose Cannon]

Here is an interesting tidbit on the early plan for DC. 
http://www.boundarystones.org/

Thanks.

[harryp]

There are 3 FLW in the Milw area that I can think of off the top of my head. The Greek Church on the west side (92nd St), Terrace Ave on the east side near Lake Park, the Adelman House in Fox Point (owned by the parents of Judge Lynn Adelman). There are also some on the near west side, I think, near 25th and Highland.  Several there were part of a plan to develop low cost housing There's Taleisen (SP?) West in the Phoenix area. FLW started out in Chicago under his mentor, Louie Sullivan who designed the Garrick Theater (gone) and others. Spring Green,WI is the home of Taliesin  and is open to the public.
Olmstead also designed Central Park in NYC. Milwaukee Lake Park is the foundation for a magnificent lake front which Milw has developed over the years to be a local treasure, especially as compared to Chicago which blew its chance.

[CTWarrior]

You want to talk architects?  Let's talk Frederick Olmsted!  Central Park & Prospect Park, and here in MKE Lake Park, Washington Park and of course the GOAT...the south side's Humboldt Park - adjacent to Bay View HS, home of (JUCO!!!!) Dwight Buycks.

No one can touch Olmsted.

Your forgetting his two greatest accomplishments, Beardsley Park and Seaside Park in the city where I grew up, Bridgeport, CT (nicknamed The Park City)!

[Eldon]

There are 3 FLW in the Milw area that I can think of off the top of my head. The Greek Church on the west side (92nd St), Terrace Ave on the east side near Lake Park, the Adelman House in Fox Point (owned by the parents of Judge Lynn Adelman). There are also some on the near west side, I think, near 25th and Highland.  Several there were part of a plan to develop low cost housing There's Taleisen (SP?) West in the Phoenix area. FLW started out in Chicago under his mentor, Louie Sullivan who designed the Garrick Theater (gone) and others. Spring Green,WI is the home of Taliesin  and is open to the public.
Olmstead also designed Central Park in NYC. Milwaukee Lake Park is the foundation for a magnificent lake front which Milw has developed over the years to be a local treasure, especially as compared to Chicago which blew its chance.

There's an oft-forgotten string of FLW houses on Burnham Street between 27th and 28th.