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mr.MUskie

So does anybody know who shot Kennedy?

texaswarrior74

Lots of first time posters suddenly showing up with theories......hmmm,

Milwarriorkee

My guess is IWB's source is someone from MU's future AD's office.

TJ


Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: csmithjump on March 26, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
My guess is IWB's source is someone from MU's future AD's office.

So that is why Shaka and the AD were holed up all afternoon Monday plotting the future of the program

TJ

I wish there was a smiley bashing his head against a wall on this site.

keefe



Death on call

Windyplayer

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
With the limited amount of information coming from IWB, to me it's quite simple what happened.  His sources, probably heard of a hiring which was in fact, the new President. My guess is that Shaka was attached to that newsbit without any verification.  All of the news we heard was related to a "major announcement", "Wednesday press conference", "big hire", etc all fits the bill the new president being hired.  To me, it seems that information was misconstrued by one of the sources.  Shaka Smart fit the bill, of a big hire, but in fact..... it was the new President.  Since he's local, logically, he would not have any sources at a low key school such as VCU.  His sources would be someone who's connected at MU.  I even know someone who knows someone at MU. 
Haha. I have more respect for IWB than this despite his strongly worded Tweet.

Pakuni

Quote from: TJ on March 26, 2014, 11:38:59 AM
I wish there was a smiley bashing his head against a wall on this site.

Will this do?


ShakaBSmart

I am truly flattered boys, but it's getting to look a bit like an episode of the X-Files in here!

SBS

Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown

I'll throw all my ignorance behind this theory. Pieces fit.
"Half a billion we used to do about every two months...or as my old boss would say, 'you're on the hook for $8 million a day come hell or high water-.    Never missed in 6 years." - Chico apropos of nothing

RyanConroy

Quote from: ShakaBSmart on March 26, 2014, 11:44:03 AM
I am truly flattered boys, but it's getting to look a bit like an episode of the X-Files in here!

SBS

hey shaka

how r u

TJ


MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: csmithjump on March 26, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
My guess is IWB's source is someone from MU's future AD's office.

Let's assume IWB is a fake source.  What do we know so far?

1.  Father Wild wasn't impressed by the media hype of Shaka Smart - That's on JSOnline
2.  VCU has denied any FORMAL contact from MU.  -This Doesn't mean 3rd parties (feelers) haven't been involved.  In fact, Buzz's deal from VaTech was largely instigated by his good friend, Mick Cronin of Cincinnatti.  
3.  We do know that the job has received high interest:  Ben Howland, new reports are leaking that Bruce Weber wants to come home now (do not hire!), Archie Miller was one of the first people they called - lo and behold he was given an extension on Monday (Job wasn't big enough jump according to sources), Gregg Marshall is rumored to be showing interest (in my mind, can't recruit well enough), but Shaka Smart hasn't come out and flat denied anything of sorts.  
4.  Shaka's assistant going to Rice - raises a red flag that if Shaka were to leave.... wouldn't this guy take over for VCU?  
5.  My logic is that MU will get the Pres, (done) and then hire an AD soon.  After a foundation is laid, then we will see more activity on the coaching front.  As for now, they will entertain the field of coaches.  The Bruce Weber "interested rumor" proves that theory, that MU is window shopping at this point.  For all we know, it may be posturing to lower Howland's price.

nathanziarek

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMThe Gold.

Agree to disagree. This was never that bad.

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMGiving a retired jersey number to a current player.

Marquette doesn't retire numbers, only jerseys.

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMThe Fr. Pilarz hire.

I'd say the Fr. Pillarz firing was worse, since it made it look rash, but I'll give you this one.

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMThe Larry Williams vs Buzz Williams drama.

? How better would you have liked them to handle than to say nothing?

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMHaving multiple very high up academic positions vacant for an extended period of time.

Would you prefer they just grabbed the first person off the street? You didn't seem to like that with the Pillarz

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMThe handling of allegations of sexual abuse by athletes, which resulted in a federal investigation.

100% this one.


Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AMTearing down Hegarty's.
Letting Angelo's close.

Really?

These are all, at best, a stretch. If you want to think the fact that they are taking their time stocking high-level positions at MU is a sign that they are a bunch of bumbling morons, that's your prerogative. That doesn't make it accurate.
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mujivitz06

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
Let's assume IWB is a fake source.  What do we know so far?

1.  Father Wild wasn't impressed by the media hype of Shaka Smart - That's on JSOnline
2.  VCU has denied any FORMAL contact from MU.  -This Doesn't mean 3rd parties (feelers) haven't been involved.  In fact, Buzz's deal from VaTech was largely instigated by his good friend, Mick Cronin of Cincinnatti.  
3.  We do know that the job has received high interest:  Ben Howland, new reports are leaking that Bruce Weber wants to come home now (do not hire!), Archie Miller was one of the first people they called - lo and behold he was given an extension on Monday (Job wasn't big enough jump according to sources), Gregg Marshall is rumored to be showing interest (in my mind, can't recruit well enough), but Shaka Smart hasn't come out and flat denied anything of sorts.  
4.  Shaka's assistant going to Rice - raises a red flag that if Shaka were to leave.... wouldn't this guy take over for VCU?  
5.  My logic is that MU will get the Pres, (done) and then hire an AD soon.  After a foundation is laid, then we will see more activity on the coaching front.  As for now, they will entertain the field of coaches.  The Bruce Weber "interested rumor" proves that theory, that MU is window shopping at this point.  For all we know, it may be posturing to lower Howland's price.

We also know that Marquette has talked to Shaka (per Goodman)

mug644

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
With the limited amount of information coming from IWB, to me it's quite simple what happened.  His sources, probably heard of a hiring which was in fact, the new President. My guess is that Shaka was attached to that newsbit without any verification.  All of the news we heard was related to a "major announcement", "Wednesday press conference", "big hire", etc all fits the bill the new president being hired.  To me, it seems that information was misconstrued by one of the sources.  Shaka Smart fit the bill, of a big hire, but in fact..... it was the new President.  Since he's local, logically, he would not have any sources at a low key school such as VCU.  His sources would be someone who's connected at MU.  I even know someone who knows someone at MU. 


I don't buy that. I can't imagine that MU wanted to announce the new Pres until after the April BoT meeting. Why would MU make a public announcement before the Board meets, and presumably finalizes the choice.

Not naming the incoming Pres before April was not an issue until Buzz left and some candidate(s) expressed (understandable) hesitation at signing on without knowing who would be at the helm of either Athletics or the university. Fortunately, it seems that the new Pres had already been identified and so MU could easily move that announcement forward, and thus allowing the candidate(s) to be in contact with him.

This train of thought keeps me hoping that a deal with some candidate was agreed upon in principle, but that we needed to push forward the Pres announcement in order to finalize one with the new coach.

ShakaBSmart

Quote from: MUStudent on March 26, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
hey shaka

how r u

Chillin and enjoying the show.  Things will all work out...

Windyplayer

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
Archie Miller was one of the first people they called - lo and behold he was given an extension on Monday (Job wasn't big enough jump according to sources),
Haha, you're killing me, man.

Coleman

Quote from: Utile et Dulce on March 26, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
Agree to disagree. This was never that bad.

Marquette doesn't retire numbers, only jerseys.

I'd say the Fr. Pillarz firing was worse, since it made it look rash, but I'll give you this one.

? How better would you have liked them to handle than to say nothing?

Would you prefer they just grabbed the first person off the street? You didn't seem to like that with the Pillarz

100% this one.


Really?

These are all, at best, a stretch. If you want to think the fact that they are taking their time stocking high-level positions at MU is a sign that they are a bunch of bumbling morons, that's your prerogative. That doesn't make it accurate.

The last two were a joke. Lighten up.

Coleman

Quote from: ShakaBSmart on March 26, 2014, 11:50:43 AM
Chillin and enjoying the show.  Things will all work out...

Welcome Coach Smart. Glad you decided to check out MUScoop before making a decision.

Groin_pull

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
Let's assume IWB is a fake source.  What do we know so far?

1.  Father Wild wasn't impressed by the media hype of Shaka Smart - That's on JSOnline
2.  VCU has denied any FORMAL contact from MU.  -This Doesn't mean 3rd parties (feelers) haven't been involved.  In fact, Buzz's deal from VaTech was largely instigated by his good friend, Mick Cronin of Cincinnatti.  
3.  We do know that the job has received high interest:  Ben Howland, new reports are leaking that Bruce Weber wants to come home now (do not hire!), Archie Miller was one of the first people they called - lo and behold he was given an extension on Monday (Job wasn't big enough jump according to sources), Gregg Marshall is rumored to be showing interest (in my mind, can't recruit well enough), but Shaka Smart hasn't come out and flat denied anything of sorts.  
4.  Shaka's assistant going to Rice - raises a red flag that if Shaka were to leave.... wouldn't this guy take over for VCU?  
5.  My logic is that MU will get the Pres, (done) and then hire an AD soon.  After a foundation is laid, then we will see more activity on the coaching front.  As for now, they will entertain the field of coaches.  The Bruce Weber "interested rumor" proves that theory, that MU is window shopping at this point.  For all we know, it may be posturing to lower Howland's price.

If so, that's a very dangerous game to play. As of this moment, MU is probably the top job available. But that could change tomorrow. Drag this out too long and MU risks losing a guy like Howland. Again, I have this uneasy feeling that MU will mess this up...strike out with the top candidates...and end up with someone like (gulp) Wardle or Jeter.

nathanziarek

Quote from: Bleuteaux on March 26, 2014, 11:53:23 AM
The last two were a joke. Lighten up.
To be fair, I hadn't gotten to the post where  you said you added two ... so I really thought you were serious. In any case, I'm just not as down on the board as you are. I guess we can have a different opinion on that, though. World will keep on spinnin'
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Eldon

Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 26, 2014, 11:46:41 AM
Let's assume IWB is a fake source.  What do we know so far?

1.  Father Wild wasn't impressed by the media hype of Shaka Smart - That's on JSOnline
2.  VCU has denied any FORMAL contact from MU.  -This Doesn't mean 3rd parties (feelers) haven't been involved.  In fact, Buzz's deal from VaTech was largely instigated by his good friend, Mick Cronin of Cincinnatti.  
3.  We do know that the job has received high interest:  Ben Howland, new reports are leaking that Bruce Weber wants to come home now (do not hire!), Archie Miller was one of the first people they called - lo and behold he was given an extension on Monday (Job wasn't big enough jump according to sources), Gregg Marshall is rumored to be showing interest (in my mind, can't recruit well enough), but Shaka Smart hasn't come out and flat denied anything of sorts.  
4.  Shaka's assistant going to Rice - raises a red flag that if Shaka were to leave.... wouldn't this guy take over for VCU?  
5.  My logic is that MU will get the Pres, (done) and then hire an AD soon.  After a foundation is laid, then we will see more activity on the coaching front.  As for now, they will entertain the field of coaches.  The Bruce Weber "interested rumor" proves that theory, that MU is window shopping at this point.  For all we know, it may be posturing to lower Howland's price.

We never wanted Miller.  Here's the scoop, or rather, the Scoop, if you will.

MU made a deal with Miller..  We (MU) show up at Dayton's door.  Dayton gets scared and gives Miller a huge raise and extension.  Miller says thanks to Dayton.  In return for our service of showing up at Dayton's door, Miller donates a *significant* amount to the Blue&Gold fund.

Who enforces the "contract" between MU and Miller, i.e., ensures he holds up his end of the bargain?  I can only discuss that in a PM.  And even there I am hesitant.

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