It's so apparently obvious...

[mattyv1908]

...that Deonte Burton has so much upside and could have really helped this team this year yet the coaching staff couldn't find a way to get him on the court early this season.

This game is a perfect example.  Let's roll out the same offensively challenged starting line up only to see us in an early deficit.  Gardner and Mayo have 15 combined and we whittle it down to 6 before bad call and a horrible Buzz Williams' technical see us down 11 at the break.

What does Buzz do next?

Put the same terrible offensive players on the court for their vaunted defense only to see Villanova rain down open 3's and the deficit swells to 19.

Finally, like an epiphany, Buzz puts in Deonte Burton and it's as plain as day that he is one of our five best players on the roster.  He provides life but it's too little too late.

It's almost like for 25 minutes Buzz Williams insisted that his effort guys who can't make lay ups, miss more than half their free throws, and looked overmatched against elite competition could somehow will themselves to a victory.  When the team is virtually dead he then puts guys in the game that can actually put the ball in the basket.

I like Buzz, but this year has not been a display of his coaching ability or savant like basketball IQ.

[Nevada233]

Yea Jamil is playing horribly. Burton plays hard.

[mileskishnish72]

Matty, you clearly have no idea who practices hard and who doesn't.

[mattyv1908]

Matty, you clearly have no idea who practices hard and who doesn't.

Is that sarcasm?

[jesmu84]

Deonte has upside and can score. But, he still doesn't do what Buzz wants him to do on the defensive end, and, actually, on the offensive end (according to numerous interviews). After 5/6 years of Buzz, it's pretty obvious you don't play if you don't do what Buzz asks. That doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. So either accept it or don't, but either way, it's not going to change.

[🏀]

Love the use of the word 'hard' and the experts that know the team after seeing them play for 35 minutes twice a week.

Clowns.

[GGGG]

Marquette was struggling with consistency earlier in the year.  People on this board were saying Buzz was playing too many people...so he shortens the rotation and wins five of six.

Can't blame Buzz for playing the guys who had been winning for him lately.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Before NOVA a bunch of players not named Burton did a great job winning games for us. Buzz sticking with those guys is not a bad coaching move. It didn't work out today.

I believe Burton deserves at least ten minutes a game....and should get a lot more if he is playing like he did today.

[brandx]

...that Deonte Burton has so much upside and could have really helped this team this year yet the coaching staff couldn't find a way to get him on the court early this season.

This game is a perfect example.  Let's roll out the same offensively challenged starting line up only to see us in an early deficit.  
What does Buzz do next?

Yeah... but our 5 starters scored 17 points today.

You are absolutely correct. On an offensively challenged team, our two freshmen - whose calling cards were offense - see little or no time while we watch the same inept players on offense game after game. Jamil has had 7 games of 5 points or less for a team that struggles to score and yet we continue to heat the announcers talk about his skills.

[brandx]

Before NOVA a bunch of players not named Burton did a great job winning games for us. Buzz sticking with those guys is not a bad coaching move. It didn't work out today.

I believe Burton deserves at least ten minutes a game....and should get a lot more if he is playing like he did today.

Give me a list of the good teams those players won. And without Davante - WE are DePaul this year.

[Niv Berkowitz]

Clowns is right. Yes Burton has tons of potential and I love him. But he's a defensive disaster on D. He's the Pedro Cerano on the team (or Rob Deer for a real life comp). Sure, we will get 10 PTs (or 25 HRs), but we will get 4 fouls, 2 TOs, and 16 PTs allowed (220 strikeouts).

Between all the coaches on here and the ability for posters who get off on finding more words to complain about DW, this board is full of clowns.

[WarriorFan]

Burton is clearly the most offensively gifted player on the team.  I could see 4-6 minute stretches where he get the ball on every possession... kinda like the way the Knicks used Patrick Ewing.

[The Sultan of Silly]

...that Deonte Burton has so much upside and could have really helped this team this year yet the coaching staff couldn't find a way to get him on the court early this season.

This game is a perfect example.  Let's roll out the same offensively challenged starting line up only to see us in an early deficit.  Gardner and Mayo have 15 combined and we whittle it down to 6 before bad call and a horrible Buzz Williams' technical see us down 11 at the break.

What does Buzz do next?

Put the same terrible offensive players on the court for their vaunted defense only to see Villanova rain down open 3's and the deficit swells to 19.

Finally, like an epiphany, Buzz puts in Deonte Burton and it's as plain as day that he is one of our five best players on the roster.  He provides life but it's too little too late.

It's almost like for 25 minutes Buzz Williams insisted that his effort guys who can't make lay ups, miss more than half their free throws, and looked overmatched against elite competition could somehow will themselves to a victory.  When the team is virtually dead he then puts guys in the game that can actually put the ball in the basket.

I like Buzz, but this year has not been a display of his coaching ability or savant like basketball IQ.

Well said. Just don't understand what came over Buzz this year. So looked forward to this season and it has been painful to watch. Next year with Juan and Derrick hogging more undeserved minutes again and most likely losing some of our most talented players to transfer won't make next year any more fun to watch either.

[mattyv1908]

Before NOVA a bunch of players not named Burton did a great job winning games for us. Buzz sticking with those guys is not a bad coaching move. It didn't work out today.

I believe Burton deserves at least ten minutes a game....and should get a lot more if he is playing like he did today.

I'm going to leave out Derrick Wilson as he is very limited but he is better than any PG on our roster.

If our 'defensive minded' players can't score and are allowing Villanova players to get open shots at will, what value do they have in this game?  Tuesday's game may be different.  The last game may be different.  But today it was apparent very early that on top of the expected poor offense we typically see from Anderson and Otule we also were not doing anything to stop Nova.  A personnel change to a line up that could at least potentially match them shot for shot was necessary very early on to anyone watching this game objectively.

[🏀]

Well said. Just don't understand what came over Buzz this year. So looked forward to this season and it has been painful to watch. Next year with Juan and Derrick hogging more undeserved minutes again and most likely losing some of our most talented players to transfer won't make next year any more fun to watch either.

You don't have any idea of who deserves what minutes. No one here does.

[GGGG]

Yeah... but our 5 starters scored 17 points today.

You are absolutely correct. On an offensively challenged team, our two freshmen - whose calling cards were offense - see little or no time while we watch the same inept players on offense game after game. Jamil has had 7 games of 5 points or less for a team that struggles to score and yet we continue to heat the announcers talk about his skills.

Before today, Marquette won five of six and had no trouble scoring points.  Not seeing what you are complaining about here.

[muhoops1]

If we're all clowns then explain Juan Anderson.  Probably had a 20-25 min run.  0-3, 1 Assist, a turnover, 3 boards and 0 points.  I watched him get shook on the perimeter, out muscled in the paint.  Generally ineffective with the ball.  Why does he see so much time?  Seriously.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Clowns is right. Yes Burton has tons of potential and I love him. But he's a defensive disaster on D. He's the Pedro Cerano on the team (or Rob Deer for a real life comp). Sure, we will get 10 PTs (or 25 HRs), but we will get 4 fouls, 2 TOs, and 16 PTs allowed (220 strikeouts).

Between all the coaches on here and the ability for posters who get off on finding more words to complain about DW, this board is full of clowns.

How much worse could he be than losing by 17?

[mviale]

Sorry guys.  Derrick Wilson is the only guy that handle the ball without unforced errors and has a chance to defend his man.  Burton, Dawson and jj are disasters with turnovers and on defense

[mattyv1908]

Clowns is right. Yes Burton has tons of potential and I love him. But he's a defensive disaster on D. He's the Pedro Cerano on the team (or Rob Deer for a real life comp). Sure, we will get 10 PTs (or 25 HRs), but we will get 4 fouls, 2 TOs, and 16 PTs allowed (220 strikeouts).

Between all the coaches on here and the ability for posters who get off on finding more words to complain about DW, this board is full of clowns.

You couldn't be more wrong with your assessment.  Besides Juan Anderson, he's a close second in the amount of positive defensive impact he has on a game of anyone on the roster.  Several advanced metrics prove it out.

[🏀]

If we're all clowns then explain Juan Anderson.  Probably had a 20-25 min run.  0-3, 1 Assist, a turnover, 3 boards and 0 points.  I watched him get shook on the perimeter, out muscled in the paint.  Generally ineffective with the ball.  Why does he see so much time?  Seriously.

Explain why Todd Mayo can't take his minutes.

[GGGG]

You couldn't be more wrong with your assessment.  Besides Juan Anderson, he's a close second in the amount of positive defensive impact he has on a game of anyone on the roster.  Several advanced metrics prove it out.

Defensive advanced metrics have so many holes in them it's not funny.  They don't measure when he is out of position on rotation.  They don't measure when he gets held up on a pick because he doesn't have his head on a swivel.  He has A LOT of work to do on the defensive end.

[Nevada233]

Explain why Todd Mayo can't take his minutes.

You sound like a Bitch right now.

[brandx]

I'm going to leave out Derrick Wilson as he is very limited but he is better than any PG on our roster.

If our 'defensive minded' players can't score and are allowing Villanova players to get open shots at will, what value do they have in this game?  Tuesday's game may be different.  The last game may be different.  But today it was apparent very early that on top of the expected poor offense we typically see from Anderson and Otule we also were not doing anything to stop Nova.  A personnel change to a line up that could at least potentially match them shot for shot was necessary very early on to anyone watching this game objectively.

The defense has been way overrated this year. I have yet to see what they are trying to accomplish other than let teams shoot 3s whenever they want.

In 4 games against Nova and Creighton, they gave up 115 three-point shots - yes 115 in 4 games. To two teams who LOVE to shoot the three and see it as their road to victory. One Hundred and Fifteen in four games.

That is pathetic, brutal defense. How can you go into a game with a game plan that says "we'll let them do what they do best"? And then you guys are worried about Burton's defense?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If we're all clowns then explain Juan Anderson.  Probably had a 20-25 min run.  0-3, 1 Assist, a turnover, 3 boards and 0 points.  I watched him get shook on the perimeter, out muscled in the paint.  Generally ineffective with the ball.  Why does he see so much time?  Seriously.

He got 17 minutes today. Before that, he was averaging less than 10 minutes a game.

Also, PT had an article that said by value added, Juan is one of the top defenders in the country. I'm sure there's some statistical manipulation there, but it's something.