2014-15 NFC North/NFL Thread

[wadesworld]

That Houston sack dance/injury pretty much sums up the Bears defense today.

True.

[JWags85]

I get it, Jay is far from the only problem with this Chicago Bears team. It just seems to me that Jay continues to get passes while teams continue to go through coaches trying to find something that will work for him.

This, to me, was the first game where the Bears played awful where there was nothing glaringly bad about Cutler.  Mike Periera tweeted that the fumble should have been called dead before it came loose and his interception was a throwaway play at the end of the game.  Again the play calling was pretty suspect.  The holding call on the initial drive was a killer.  Just a really lackluster performance all around.  Trestman has been found out, or he is overthinking himself cause he just can't get this offense in any sort of rhythm.  Cutler is very good at evading the first rusher, but he was getting swallowed up immediately after.  As soon as they put Forte in space, he was excelling, only for them to go away from it soon after.

The combination of injuries all over the defense and Mel Tucker's inability to adjust is abysmal to watch.

[tower912]

The Lions could easily be 4-4.   But if they had a real kicker all year, they probably would have beaten Buffalo, leaving them 7-1.    Being the Lions, I still don't trust them.

[hairy worthen]

The Lions could easily be 4-4.   But if they had a real kicker all year, they probably would have beaten Buffalo, leaving them 7-1.    Being the Lions, I still don't trust them.

Lions are legit. They have to learn how to win and expect to win. That will come from Caldwell. They are a playoff team that can win a game in the playoffs. Not sure they are a Superbowl contender quite yet. Stafford would have to be less cutler like and more Rodgers like.

[MUeng]

Blessing in disguise, if you're not going to the playoffs, best to be really bad.

a blessing to be a crap football team cuz of a moderately high draft pick you can waste on a wr? Yikes, glad im not cheering for that squad

[DegenerateDish]

a blessing to be a crap football team cuz of a moderately high draft pick you can waste on a wr? Yikes, glad im not cheering for that squad

Huh?

You'd rather be 7-9 than 4-12?

Dumb, real dumb.

[MUeng]

Huh?

You'd rather be 7-9 then 4-12?

Dumb, real dumb.

definitely rather be 7-9. At least that team would have some fight and character and not pack it in just to collect a paycheck

[hairy worthen]

Huh?

You'd rather be 7-9 than 4-12?

Dumb, real dumb.

Rather be 4-12 for sure. The problem is the bears are closer to 7-9 or 8-8.

[Jay Bee]

Skol Vikings! Tied with the Bears!!

[wadesworld]

Skol Vikings! Tied with the Bears!!

Big things brewing!

[DegenerateDish]

definitely rather be 7-9. At least that team would have some fight and character and not pack it in just to collect a paycheck

Umm, ok then.

NFL Hell = 8-8 or 7-9

[MUeng]

Umm, ok then.

NFL Hell = 8-8 or 7-9

I'd argue better than 4-12. 8 wins got us in the playoffs last year though. Agree to disagree!

[DegenerateDish]

Cobb just doesn't give up on plays, hell of a year.

[wadesworld]

A great call on the screen and then we throw a slant to Julius Peppers on 2nd and goal. Why? Why not just throw it to Jordy? Or Cobb? Or Adams? Or heck, get PTM's guy in there and throw him a slant. A slant? To Julius Peppers? What in the world? Then you follow it up with an onside kick? Ugh. Mike McCarthy is back.

[GGGG]

A great call on the screen and then we throw a slant to Julius Peppers on 2nd and goal. Why? Why not just throw it to Jordy? Or Cobb? Or Adams? Or heck, get PTM's guy in there and throw him a slant. A slant? To Julius Peppers? What in the world? Then you follow it up with an onside kick? Ugh. Mike McCarthy is back.

Seriously, are you still bitching about Mike McCarthy?

[tower912]

Aaron says RELAX.

[wadesworld]

Seriously, are you still bitching about Mike McCarthy?

So you aren't going to question putting a 34 year old lineman out wide and throwing a slant to him on 2nd and goal?  Okay I guess...

I think I'd take a minimum of 35 players on the Packers roster alone to throw that pass to over Julius Peppers.  But hey, what do I know?

[GGGG]

I think McCarthy is a very good head coach and offensive coordinator.  So when you say "Ugh. Mike McCarthy is back," it is incredibly short-sighted.

[wadesworld]

I think McCarthy is a very good head coach and offensive coordinator.  So when you say "Ugh. Mike McCarthy is back," it is incredibly short-sighted.

Just don't understand why you have to overthink yourself. Like I said, you make a great call on the screen and set yourself up nicely. If you're going to throw a slant, why are you going to do it to a 34 year old defensive lineman? You have 2 top 5 receivers in the NFL plus a young guy who is starting to find his way. In fact I take back that overthinking statement, that's just plain not thinking at all.

[DegenerateDish]

Personally, I thought the onside kick was a fine call.

Probable shootout, want to try to be aggressive, limit possessions for the other team, you only lose 30 yards of field position. Didn't work, but nothing wrong with the call.

[GGGG]

Just don't understand why you have to overthink yourself. Like I said, you make a great call on the screen and set yourself up nicely. If you're going to throw a slant, why are you going to do it to a 34 year old defensive lineman? You have 2 top 5 receivers in the NFL plus a young guy who is starting to find his way. In fact I take back that overthinking statement, that's just plain not thinking at all.

Even if you are right, McCarthy has more than gained the benefit of the doubt.

[wadesworld]

I hate the "surprise" onside kick. Even if you catch them off guard a lot of things still have to go right. That was about as well executed as you can ask for and it still didn't work. Hardly ever works.

[wadesworld]

Even if you are right, McCarthy has more than gained the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not saying I can call an NFL football game, but I am not going to give Mike McCarthy the benefit of the doubt on throwing a slant to Julius Peppers when you have Nelson, Cobb, Adams, and even Boykin, Rodgers, Quarless, Bostick available.  It makes absolutely, positively zero sense to do that.  If that makes me a stubborn know-nothing pessimist then so be it.

[GGGG]

Fine Wades whatever.  Not worth going back and forth with you in football threads.

[4everwarriors]

McCarthy musta gotten coachin' advise from his good buddy, Crean, hey?