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Untucked

Will Buzz ever realize that Derrick Wilson is not a starting D1 point guard. You finally get a chance to see Dawson play and the offense runs so much smoother. If he continues to play Willson 30 minutes/game, I'll change my original prediction of NIT to a losing record overall. Just think how much better Dawson would be if he had been getting significant minutes all year.
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LAZER

So after Dawson is 2-6 from the field with 2ast 1to and 3 pf, you're ready to claim he is the difference between a winning or losing season???


PGsHeroes32

True statement.

9-7 with Derrick. LOL.
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: LAZER on January 09, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
So after Dawson is 2-6 from the field with 2ast 1to and 3 pf, you're ready to claim he is the difference between a winning or losing season???



nope just ready to claim that derrick Wilson is clearly an awful D1 PG and everything points to it. Team record, his stats, the eye test

Hell, a blind guy could watch the game and tell you he sucks.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Untucked on January 09, 2014, 10:29:53 PM
Will Buzz ever realize that Derrick Wilson is not a starting D1 point guard. You finally get a chance to see Dawson play and the offense runs so much smoother. If he continues to play Willson 30 minutes/game, I'll change my original prediction of NIT to a losing record overall. Just think how much better Dawson would be if he had been getting significant minutes all year.

Did you not watch the first half? Dawson came in and we literally went over five minutes without a FG. We went from winning 26-20 to losing 36-28.

Yes, Dawson is a better shooter than Derrick. We all know that. But there is more to being a PG than scoring points.
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LAZER

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 09, 2014, 10:34:31 PM
nope just ready to claim that derrick Wilson is clearly an awful D1 PG and everything points to it. Team record, his stats, the eye test

Hell, a blind guy could watch the game and tell you he sucks.

I was replying to the original post.

I wonder how bad Dawson is if he can't get minutes from a guy that sucks huh?

nyg

This will continue into next year with a healthy Duane Wilson.  D. Wilson will continue to get the nod because he will be a senior, then there are three potential PGs with Dawson.

Will Buzz ever realize.....More Burton, less Anderson.  Juan has not scored one point in the first three BE games.  Terrible.  

Lennys Tap

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 09, 2014, 10:33:36 PM
True statement.

9-7 with Derrick. LOL.

We'd be 8-8 or 7-9 if Dawson was getting Derrick's minutes.

True statement.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 09, 2014, 10:34:53 PM
Did you not watch the first half? Dawson came in and we literally went over five minutes without a FG. We went from winning 26-20 to losing 36-28.

Yes, Dawson is a better shooter than Derrick. We all know that. But there is more to being a PG than scoring points.

We scoured almost 80 pts today with Dawson actually playing a lot.

When Derrick plays the whole game breaking 50 calls for a party.
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PGsHeroes32

Quote from: LAZER on January 09, 2014, 10:39:03 PM
I was replying to the original post.

I wonder how bad Dawson is if he can't get minutes from a guy that sucks huh?

He isn't bad. Buzz just likes his upperclassmen.

Only way to explain Juan Anderson even being on scholarship at this point.
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WellsstreetWanderer

Not a stat I have seen but Derrick seems to get 2 or 3 layups blocked a game

GooooMarquette

John Dawson showed promise on offense tonight, but he hurts us too much on defense and the boards.  He certainly deserves playing time, but is not yet ready for starter's minutes.

madtownwarrior

What's worse - the lack of production at PG by De Wilson or the lack of production by Jamil Wilson.   Maybe it is a Wilson thing?

LAZER

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 09, 2014, 10:40:57 PM
He isn't bad. Buzz just likes his upperclassmen.

Only way to explain Juan Anderson even being on scholarship at this point.

You have no idea how good/bad Dawson is at this point.  He has shot terribly for the season, his highlight of the season thus far is a 2-6 performance.

CTWarrior

I think we move the ball around better and get the ball to Gardner in better position without Derrick, but frankly, our rebounding was more to blame for this loss than anything our guards did.  So far this season, if it's not one thing, its another.  We make 3s but have terrible transition defense and get killed on the boards.  Jake does well and Jamil disappears.

Goodness, we are frustrating to watch so far.  You can see the talent is there, just can't put a complete game together.
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Quote from: CTWarrior on January 09, 2014, 10:47:10 PM
 You can see the talent is there, just can't put a complete game together.

But lookout when we do!  lol.

We may end up .500 on the year, but I keep day dreaming that one of these BE games we're gonna' blow out someone by playing a great game.

madtownwarrior

Awesome, we should lock in mediocrity or worse instead of potential.

News for you - De Wilson is not getting us to the  NCAA, so why not develop a younger player  with higher upside?

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 09, 2014, 10:39:35 PM
We'd be 8-8 or 7-9 if Dawson was getting Derrick's minutes.

True statement.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: LAZER on January 09, 2014, 10:44:46 PM
You have no idea how good/bad Dawson is at this point.  He has shot terribly for the season, his highlight of the season thus far is a 2-6 performance.

The highlight of Derricks season was being kind enough to give Thames, Carson and Christain great-legendary games.
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LAZER

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 09, 2014, 10:52:34 PM
The highlight of Derricks season was being kind enough to give Thames, Carson and Christain great-legendary games.

I get that you favor of the unknown of Dawson, but it's dumb to act like it's a nobrainer to play Dawson over Wilson when you have hardly even seen Dawson play.

How many Top 150 PG's are impact players freshman year, let alone guys way outside the Top 150?

jimmybutlerfanatic

Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on January 09, 2014, 10:52:34 PM
The highlight of Derricks season was being kind enough to give Thames, Carson and Christain great-legendary games.


Factual comments like this would get you banned on that D-Bag Dodd's board!

Just keep saying he's a great defender. Tow the line.

Wojo'sMojo

Quote from: LAZER on January 09, 2014, 10:56:12 PM
I get that you favor of the unknown of Dawson, but it's dumb to act like it's a nobrainer to play Dawson over Wilson when you have hardly even seen Dawson play.

How many Top 150 PG's are impact players freshman year, let alone guys way outside the Top 150?

Derrick is a liability on offense and the defensive stopper role he supposedly plays is becoming more myth than anything.

MU82

Quote from: madtownwarrior on January 09, 2014, 10:52:00 PM
News for you - De Wilson is not getting us to the  NCAA, so why not develop a younger player  with higher upside?


Coaches don't think this way, especially 3 games into an 18-game conference season.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 09, 2014, 10:34:53 PM
Did you not watch the first half? Dawson came in and we literally went over five minutes without a FG. We went from winning 26-20 to losing 36-28.

Yes, Dawson is a better shooter than Derrick. We all know that. But there is more to being a PG than scoring points.

Dawson came in with the score 14-13 us...he then built a 26-22 lead and the offense looked very smooth.  We then had a stretch with Juan/Taylor and Mayo in where they repeatedly turned the ball over and Gardner forced poor shots.  That allowed the score to flip to (36-28).  Including bad turnovers by Juan and Mayo.  A missed uncontested layup by Gardner (on a very nice pass by Dawson to pass him open), open good looks from Thomas and Dawson.  They make those 3 and it would have been a tie ball game.

Tonight Dawson was the far far better player.  As I said in the other threads that doesn't make him the best option in the future or the best option in the past, but tonight he played very well and your memory of the first half is incomplete.

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Quote from: MU82 on January 09, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
Coaches don't think this way, especially 3 games into an 18-game conference season.


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Not sure how people don't understand this.
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