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MarsupialMadness

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on December 10, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
Is the question:

Why does Buzz always seem to have suspension occur in "big games"?

I think the answer is simply in the math and applying some common sense.

In the past few years MU has had more "big games" because they had grinder conference schedule. Outside of a handful of games in Nov. & December, every game was a "big game". "OMG Seton Hall on the road is going to be tough!"

Therefore, the odds of a player getting suspended for a big game are higher because there are more big games than cupcakes.

(HERE IS THE COMMON SENSE PART)

The most likely scenario is that (insert player) had (insert issue) occur right before (insert big game), so Buzz addressed it at that time. I doubt Mayo had an issue months ago, but Buzz "saved" his suspension until the UW game. Again, Occam's Razor, folks.

No, the question was:  why was 1/2 game suspension deemed appropriate then, but full game now?  Just seems kinda arbitrary.

GGGG

Quote from: MarsupialMadness on December 10, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
No, the question was:  why was 1/2 game suspension deemed appropriate then, but full game now?  Just seems kinda arbitrary.


Well it seems that way to you because you don't know the whole story behind either suspension.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: MarsupialMadness on December 10, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
No, the question was:  why was 1/2 game suspension deemed appropriate then, but full game now?  Just seems kinda arbitrary.

How are different suspensions handed out for different offenses, different circumstances, in different seasons arbitrary? I'll tell you why, because other than the fact they were suspensions, you have no idea what else they do or do not have in common.

MU B2002

Quote from: MarsupialMadness on December 10, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
No, the question was:  why was 1/2 game suspension deemed appropriate then, but full game now?  Just seems kinda arbitrary.


If you committed the same infraction twice, as you are implying is the case here, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect to get a harsher suspension the 2nd time?

"Oh, a half game wasn't enough to help you learn?  Ok, sit your ass on the bench for a whole game now."
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Equalizer on December 10, 2013, 01:29:00 PM
Perhaps we should take at face value your inability to understand that there is a difference between a JUCO All-American or JUCO Player of the Year and a HS player outside the top 500.



Jimmy Butler was an HONORABLE MENTION junior college all american, which placed him between 31 and 50 of junior college players. Not bad, but not Jamil Lott or Marcus Jackson, two of TC's Juco All Americans who starred for Marquette and went on to be first round NBA picks. Oh wait...second rounders? free agents? a tryout somewhere? a phone call from an agent in Ubeckistan? LOL.

Eldon

Quote from: MU B2002 on December 10, 2013, 02:02:00 PM

If you committed the same infraction twice, as you are implying is the case here, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect to get a harsher suspension the 2nd time?

"Oh, a half game wasn't enough to help you learn?  Ok, sit your ass on the bench for a whole game now."

Yup.  And Buzz does not forget--you could even say that he's like a turtle.

NersEllenson

Quote from: MarsupialMadness on December 10, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
No, the question was:  why was 1/2 game suspension deemed appropriate then, but full game now?  Just seems kinda arbitrary.

As I recall in West Vigrinia game there were 3 or 4 guys suspended, and to suspend them all for the game would have left the roster with only 6 or 7 guys available...
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Lennys Tap

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Quote from: MarsupialMadness on December 10, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
No, the question was:  why was 1/2 game suspension deemed appropriate then, but full game now?  Just seems kinda arbitrary.

Why don't you enlist the NLRB and sue Buzz for unfair labor practices. Sheesh, talk about making a mountain over something that's not even a molehill.

GGGG

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 10, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
Why don't you enlist the NLRB and sue Buzz for unfair labor practices. Sheesh, talk about making a mountain over something that not even a molehill.


Worse.  Making a mountain out of something not even a molehill because you are listening to The Equalizer.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 10, 2013, 02:18:38 PM

Worse.  Making a mountain out of something not even a molehill because you are listening to The Equalizer.

LOL

Dawson Rental

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 07, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
Isn't that the truth...the dogs learn pretty darn quick

Some things... they can learn to mix martinis, but they can't write a novel worth a damn.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: wadesworld on December 08, 2013, 01:43:15 PM
I think Todd would be OK with his brother making $20 million if Buzz manned up and said enough is enough.

Buzz wussed out, huh?  Maybe you'll man up and call Buzz's decision "inexcusable".

BTW, I don't think that a suspension for a game is a "written warning".
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Is it possible his teammates pennied him into his room because they don't like him?

MarsupialMadness

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 10, 2013, 02:17:19 PM
Why don't you enlist the NLRB and sue Buzz for unfair labor practices. Sheesh, talk about making a mountain over something that's not even a molehill.

Making a mountain for asking a question?  Seems like ya'll are the ones making it an 8 page discussion.

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Has this thread reached the required length where fishing references are allowed!?!

Dawson Rental

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on December 10, 2013, 03:08:12 PM
Is it possible his teammates pennied him into his room because they don't like him?

Now that brings back memories of Schroeder Hall.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

wadesworld

Quote from: LittleMurs on December 10, 2013, 02:56:16 PM
Buzz wussed out, huh?  Maybe you'll man up and call Buzz's decision "inexcusable".

BTW, I don't think that a suspension for a game is a "written warning".

Already explained this one.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Equalizer on December 10, 2013, 08:10:58 AM
I offered my opinon.  You claimed I "pulled it out of my ass." In reality I based it on factual past history.

I'm sorry that you forgot that Buzz had previously issued half-game suspentions in a previous big-game situation. Howver, that suggests that Buzz considers the importance of the game when applying such penalties.


Or maybe he considers the fact that Todd is a repeat offender and therefore a more significant punishment was warranted.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Pakuni on December 10, 2013, 04:00:09 PM
Or maybe he considers the fact that Todd is a repeat offender and therefore a more significant punishment was warranted.

Mabye he does, and I would have been fine if he respectfully offered that as his opinion.

But he didn't say that.  Instead, his comment was that I pulled my comment "out of my ass".  Well, he's wrong--there is history of Buzz issuing half-game suspensions. 






wadesworld

Quote from: The Equalizer on December 10, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
Mabye he does, and I would have been fine if he respectfully offered that as his opinion.

But he didn't say that.  Instead, his comment was that I pulled my comment "out of my ass".  Well, he's wrong--there is history of Buzz issuing half-game suspensions. 







A sample size of one. For which we don't know what the reason for the suspension was. The 2 situations may or may not be exactly the same. We don't know.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Equalizer on December 10, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
Mabye he does, and I would have been fine if he respectfully offered that as his opinion.

But he didn't say that.  Instead, his comment was that I pulled my comment "out of my ass".  Well, he's wrong--there is history of Buzz issuing half-game suspensions. 

And there's a history of Buzz issuing full game suspensions. In big-game situations.
So, what's ultimately your point?

Seems to me you've strapped on your tinfoil cap in search of some nefariousness that exists only in your imagination.

Henry Sugar

/Clicked on an 8 page thread for the first time

A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

GGGG

Quote from: The Equalizer on December 10, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
Mabye he does, and I would have been fine if he respectfully offered that as his opinion.

But he didn't say that.  Instead, his comment was that I pulled my comment "out of my ass".  Well, he's wrong--there is history of Buzz issuing half-game suspensions. 


Oh no...you are going to pull your word twisting game with me.

I never disputed that Buzz has issued half game suspensions before.  Never.  Not once.  What I said you "pulled out of your ass" was your proposed *reasoning* for a full game suspension:

"If Buzz thought we really needed to win the game, Todd would have had a half-game suspension."

There is no evidence to suggest that Todd was given a full game suspension because he didn't think we "really needed to win this game." 

jsglow

Quote from: LittleMurs on December 10, 2013, 03:38:01 PM
Now that brings back memories of Schroeder Hall.

Okay, someone fill me in. I know my daughter used to use a dime in the door mechanism to keep it open but how does one force it to remain closed?  By the way, I sincerely hope the RA kicked your backside if an active participant. That's downright mean AND dangerous.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: jsglow on December 10, 2013, 05:08:10 PM
Okay, someone fill me in. I know my daughter used to use a dime in the door mechanism to keep it open but how does one force it to remain closed?  By the way, I sincerely hope the RA kicked your backside if an active participant. That's downright mean AND dangerous.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Penny-Locked-Door-Prank/

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