Pilarz to step down

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm not one of the Chico's haters, but Jeez, Chico, this is a new low for you - a Liz Warren reference. It's tough enough living in this liberal bastion of the People's Republic of Massachusetts - please, I beg you, no more quotes from our distinguished Native American senator on Scoop - Scoop is a refuge.

Liz Warren reference....uhm....where?

[ChicosBailBonds]

I can make you aware of a similar relationship whereby someone here still has their head up Tom Crean's arse, while simultaneously having their head buried in the sand with regard to how good Buzz Williams is.

WOW.

Have at it.  Never in my life have I said that Crean or anyone else should be a coach without oversight, without a boss and should basically be "left alone" to his own devices....unlike what has happened here by some posters when the whole LW Pilarz stuff was going on.  That's what I was referencing.  Never.

[Archies Bat]

Why would he take the MU gig if his thoughts were foggy?

While he should have known, it may be he thought the job would be more service to the students than setting up a new athletic conference and other secular responsibilities.

A lot of people in his age range start to look at their life and decide they have last chance to do what they want.

Or it could be one of the other things speculated here.  I have not seen anything other than rumor and supposition (like my comment).

[4everwarriors]

Tommy would pose well for pictures with a cocktail in hand. Not sure Herb can actually spell Marquette correctly.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Stop making crap up.

Here you go Aughnanure.....yup, making stuff up  


"So you don't see a problem with an administration dictating to the Head basketball Coach how to run his program?  Not being an alum, I could personally care less about anything that happens with the school in reality. I care about the success of the basketball program, period."
-Mu Guru

"I do want a coach who's bigger than the university."
-PRN

"There would be less paranoia if the current AD let Buzz run the school and gave him a long leash.  Instead the new AD has tried to shackle/reign Buzz in, in some areas...which is messing with happy."
-Ners

"Larry has to do his job, but he also has to let Buzz do his without looking over his shoulder. No one in their right mind can do a job well if someone is always looking over their shoulder and looking for what is wrong, instead of what is right."
-Hoops12

"Your exactly right.  It is time for MU to part ways with Larry Williams. For those of you who dont follow SEC Sports, Nick Saban committed 29!!  Yes 29!! Violations in the past year and I dont think the AD is suspending him for any games or firing any assistant coaches. "
-Kenosha Warrior

Etc, etc   Plenty more, but I'm not going to waste my time.  In summary....let Buzz do his thing, no oversight needed.  Could not care less about what happens with the school, it's all about the program....Alabama committed 29 violations and he wasn't suspended (as if Alabama should be our beacon of light), don't look over his shoulder (oversight), long leash needed, etc, etc, etc.

This just in, athletics is PART of the university, not ABOVE the university.  Athletics exists BECAUSE of the university, not the other way around.  If done right, they can bolster each other.  If done wrong, they can cause a lot of poor perceptions of the school and\or the program.

[77ncaachamps]

In before the lock!

[NersEllenson]

Here you go Auganhere.....making stuff up  


"So you don't see a problem with an administration dictating to the Head basketball Coach how to run his program?  Not being an alum, I could personally care less about anything that happens with the school in reality. I care about the success of the basketball program, period."
-Mu Guru

"I do want a coach who's bigger than the university."
-PRN

"There would be less paranoia if the current AD let Buzz run the school and gave him a long leash.  Instead the new AD has tried to shackle/reign Buzz in, in some areas...which is messing with happy."
-Ners

"Larry has to do his job, but he also has to let Buzz do his without looking over his shoulder. No one in their right mind can do a job well if someone is always looking over their shoulder and looking for what is wrong, instead of what is right."
-Hoops12

"Your exactly right.  It is time for MU to part ways with Larry Williams. For those of you who dont follow SEC Sports, Nick Saban committed 29!!  Yes 29!! Violations in the past year and I dont think the AD is suspending him for any games or firing any assistant coaches. "
-Kenosha Warrior

Etc, etc   Plenty more, but I'm not going to waste my time.  In summary....let Buzz do his thing, no oversight needed.  Could not care less about what happens with the school, it's all about the program....Alabama committed 29 violations and he wasn't suspended (as if Alabama should be our beacon of light), don't look over his shoulder (oversight), long leash needed, etc, etc, etc.

This just in, athletics is PART of the university, not ABOVE the university.  Athletics exists BECAUSE of the university, not the other way around.  If done right, they can bolster each other.  If done wrong, they can cause a lot of poor perceptions of the school and\or the program.

Please provide the thread from which you quoted me on the above - there's also this thing called context...and like the remark you chose to quote of mine...I'm sure taken alone and out of context....it distorts the full reality of what was being communicated....

But, I stand by my position, that the comments Larry Williams made to the Journal Sentinel about Buzz after the West Virginia dance episode were totally idiotic and unnecessary - and if you are going to have that kind of "leadership," at the helm of your athletic department - you'd be better off with out it...

[ChicosBailBonds]

But, I stand by my position, that the comments Larry Williams made to the Journal Sentinel about Buzz after the West Virginia dance episode were totally idiotic and unnecessary - and if you are going to have that kind of "leadership," at the helm of your athletic department - you'd be better off with out it...

Yes, I remember you got an email from Buzz on it.    

Context is key, in fact the rest of your quote from that post I left out, but here's the link.  It's ironic that you should mention context is key, as that was my exact response to you when you posted it.   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36527.msg461631#msg461631


And your subsequent response when most people here said you were wrong.   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=36527.msg462396#msg462396

[Eldon]

I think I read in one of the JS articles that the layperson has to be a Catholic

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think I read in one of the JS articles that the layperson has to be a Catholic

American Catholic (Catholic light) or Catholic? 

[Tugg Speedman]

Tommy would pose well for pictures with a cocktail in hand. Not sure Herb can actually spell Marquette correctly.

If Tommy is holding those cocktails at receptions where billionaires are sticking their name on buildings at MU, good for him.

If Herb can get billionaires to stick their name on billionaires, he can spell it "MU"

I think I read in one of the JS articles that the layperson has to be a Catholic

If so, then scratch Herb of the list as he is Jewish.

[4everwarriors]

Herb can convert.

[314warrior]

No one cares about your political opinions.  This is supposed to be a safe zone. 

I wasn't the one who brought up her name out of no where to express how much I disliked her, but yeah thanks for the kind words.

[Tugg Speedman]

Herb can convert.

If the money is right ...

[314warrior]

I'm not saying its definitely a sexual issue, but the fact that he's 54 has zero to do with anything. And the fact that nothing has been uncovered has zero to do with anything. Maybe he found a girlfriend? Maybe he thinks he might be gay? Plenty of people have these things happen at 54...just not Jesuit university presidents, which is why it'd be scandalous.

True, people experience major changes to how they understand their sexuality at 54 and beyond, but I really think the Jesuit formation process shouldn't be overlooked.  I think this is something they focus on a lot more than diocesan priests. I know of a couple of gay, celibate Jesuits.  I guess he could fall into that category, someone found out and was upset about it, and this prompted his resignation.  However, I find this highly unlikely.  

I hope we don't hear anything more about this and that the next Pres. stays for a long tenure.

[Aughnanure]

Here you go Aughnanure.....yup, making stuff up  


"So you don't see a problem with an administration dictating to the Head basketball Coach how to run his program?  Not being an alum, I could personally care less about anything that happens with the school in reality. I care about the success of the basketball program, period."
-Mu Guru

"I do want a coach who's bigger than the university."
-PRN

"There would be less paranoia if the current AD let Buzz run the school and gave him a long leash.  Instead the new AD has tried to shackle/reign Buzz in, in some areas...which is messing with happy."
-Ners

"Larry has to do his job, but he also has to let Buzz do his without looking over his shoulder. No one in their right mind can do a job well if someone is always looking over their shoulder and looking for what is wrong, instead of what is right."
-Hoops12

"Your exactly right.  It is time for MU to part ways with Larry Williams. For those of you who dont follow SEC Sports, Nick Saban committed 29!!  Yes 29!! Violations in the past year and I dont think the AD is suspending him for any games or firing any assistant coaches. "
-Kenosha Warrior

Etc, etc   Plenty more, but I'm not going to waste my time.  In summary....let Buzz do his thing, no oversight needed.  Could not care less about what happens with the school, it's all about the program....Alabama committed 29 violations and he wasn't suspended (as if Alabama should be our beacon of light), don't look over his shoulder (oversight), long leash needed, etc, etc, etc.

This just in, athletics is PART of the university, not ABOVE the university.  Athletics exists BECAUSE of the university, not the other way around.  If done right, they can bolster each other.  If done wrong, they can cause a lot of poor perceptions of the school and\or the program.

Only ONE of those actually calls for no Boss/AD. Do not confuse wanting to get rid of LW with wanting to get of the AD all-together. As always, you exaggerate others' comments. Being cynical about NCAA violations does not = advocating for the removal of the entire AD position/administration.

But please, waste more of our time more.

[314warrior]

Do any of you actually think Pilarz stepping down has anything to do with Buzz/Hoops?

[4everwarriors]

Nah

[Tugg Speedman]

Do any of you actually think Pilarz stepping down has anything to do with Buzz/Hoops?

No

[brewcity77]

Only ONE of those actually calls for no Boss/AD. Do not confuse wanting to get rid of LW with wanting to get of the AD all-together. As always, you exaggerate others' comments. Being cynical about NCAA violations does not = advocating for the removal of the entire AD position/administration.

But please, waste more of our time more.

Come on...that's even more decisive than I expected CBB's response to be. Guru indicates that the administration setting rules for Buzz is a problem and all that matters to him is the basketball program. PRN wants Buzz to be bigger (and I assume take priority over the mission of) the University. Ners' comment needs no elaboration from me. Hoops feels Buzz shouldn't have any oversight. And as I read KW's post, the problem isn't just Larry's authority, but that Buzz can't get away with more while guys like Saban are skating.

It may not be a majority, but it's a decent faction of the active posters here. CBB pretty well substantiated his point.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Herb can convert.

to what.....

[warriorchick]

If the money is right ...

You guys that think we need an arena on campus?  Well, I suppose there could be two Kohl Centers in Wisconsin....

[Atticus]

I wish there was a 'yawn' emoticon; I would use it every time a threat went off topic... So, guess I would use it in every thread.

[4everwarriors]

to what.....

A turnip

[Nukem2]

It's always disconcerting to come to this site and read this crap...