2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[Dish]

I'm not a Bears fan. And that isn't a joke. Next question.

The only ones who royally f'd up were the Packers, Bears and Lions!

Merry Christmas Rosenhaus...let's go Bears.

[brandx]

Fascinating stat - 30 Packers have missed at least 1 game due to injury this year. 3 0 !!!

[ChicosBailBonds]

Fascinating stat - 30 Packers have missed at least 1 game due to injury this year. 3 0 !!!

Dallas Cowboys have had 19 different defensive lineman....that's JUST defensive linemen due to injuries

[brandx]

Dallas Cowboys have had 19 different defensive lineman....that's JUST defensive linemen due to injuries

Those aren't injuries though - they're just allergic to Jerry Jones

[forgetful]

Dallas Cowboys have had 19 different defensive lineman....that's JUST defensive linemen due to injuries

But 19 different defensive lineman haven't missed a game.  They DRESSED 19 different defensive lineman, because they kept on bringing in different backups.  Don't get me wrong, their defense has been maligned injury wise, but your numbers and phrasing are trying to overstate the issue. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

But 19 different defensive lineman haven't missed a game.  They DRESSED 19 different defensive lineman, because they kept on bringing in different backups.  Don't get me wrong, their defense has been maligned injury wise, but your numbers and phrasing are trying to overstate the issue. 

Actually, I was trying to point out how one specific position has been decimated, the most in the NFL.  No other team has had to use more defensive linemen than the Cowboys due to injury.  That's all I was saying.

Actually has nothing to do with dressed, but actual injuries.  Where I think your point is more valid is the Cowboys have been remarkably healthy elsewhere.

The Packers, as an overall team, have been more decimated and it's not close.  They are the 2nd most injured team this year in total man games lost.

The Tampa Bay Bucs are the most hurt, at least through Sunday. Packers second, Giants 3rd.

[forgetful]

Actually, I was trying to point out how one specific position has been decimated, the most in the NFL.  No other team has had to use more defensive linemen than the Cowboys due to injury.  That's all I was saying.

Actually has nothing to do with dressed, but actual injuries.  Where I think your point is more valid is the Cowboys have been remarkably healthy elsewhere.

The Packers, as an overall team, have been more decimated and it's not close.  They are the 2nd most injured team this year in total man games lost.

The Tampa Bay Bucs are the most hurt, at least through Sunday. Packers second, Giants 3rd.

Out of curiosity, do you think the Cowboys problem was the Defensive line injuries or injuries/inexperience in the secondary or Sean Lee being injured....of course an equal all of the above is a legitimate answer.

Part of the problems is the cowboys history of over spending on free-agency has hurt their depth considerably. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Out of curiosity, do you think the Cowboys problem was the Defensive line injuries or injuries/inexperience in the secondary or Sean Lee being injured....of course an equal all of the above is a legitimate answer.

Part of the problems is the cowboys history of over spending on free-agency has hurt their depth considerably. 

I have felt for many years our depth is an issue, but the defensive line was key.  If you don't put pressure on the QB, the secondary is going to struggle. The losses there have absolutely killed the defense.

And it's not just free agency that we overspend, we overspend for our own guys.  Some think it is an admirable trait by Jones to "take care" of his guys, problem is that's old world thinking before the cap.  You can't do that anymore.  You can't give Demarcus Ware the contract we gave him, he had already peaked.  Sure, resign him but not for those dollars. 

[jesmu84]

Rodgers playing Sunday. Probably didn't want his toughness questioned anymore by fans, media, etc.

[brandx]

Rodgers playing Sunday. Probably didn't want his toughness questioned anymore by fans, media, etc.

Or the scan done this week showed enough bone density in the area.

And I doubt if any fans or media people are as tough as the weakest NFL'er (except kickers - and even that is questionable) 

[only a warrior]

Game on - no excuses, just good hard hitting football in the cold to see who wins the North!! 

[brandx]

Game on - no excuses, just good hard hitting football in the cold to see who wins the North!! 

"good" ???? - you do realize that one defense or the other is on the field all the time. But I guess we can always expect the unexpected from them.

[jesmu84]

Or the scan done this week showed enough bone density in the area.

And I doubt if any fans or media people are as tough as the weakest NFL'er (except kickers - and even that is questionable) 

Maybe the scan showed that. Guess we'll never know.

Kickers are tough - seen McAfee highlights?

[brandx]

Maybe the scan showed that. Guess we'll never know.

Kickers are tough - seen McAfee highlights?

By football standards - no. But, compared to most people, yes.

The Garo Ypremian's and Chester Marcol's of the world are pretty much gone.

[jesmu84]

Good showing by the nfc north in the pro bowl...

[ChicosBailBonds]

http://www.youtube.com/v/0iqLhdInGrk

[Dish]

Skins/Giants and Lions/Vikes should be viewed only by convicted felons.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Skins/Giants and Lions/Vikes should be viewed only by convicted felons.

Sadly it is the only game on in this market and I have shut the TV off so I will not lose my mind.

[real chili 83]

Sadly it is the only game on in this market and I have shut the TV off so I will not lose my mind.

11 min left on Vikes game.  The way they are playing in the second half, they should shut the lights out on the dome in about another minute.

[Dish]

Patterson>Harvin

[brandx]

Patterson>Harvin

No.

Patterson > injured Harvin

Not to say I don't like Patterson - could easily be a top-5 receiver with a good QB.

[Dish]

No.

Patterson > injured Harvin

Not to say I don't like Patterson - could easily be a top-5 receiver with a good QB.

In a heartbeat, the Seahawks would trade Harvin back for Patterson.

Younger, cheaper, not injured.

Yes.

[real chili 83]

In a heartbeat, the Seahawks would trade Harvin back for Patterson.

Younger, cheaper, not injured.

Yes.

Harvin is a bit of head case a la Randy Moss.

[brandx]

In a heartbeat, the Seahawks would trade Harvin back for Patterson.

Younger, cheaper, not injured.

Yes.

Absolutely - and so would I. For the 3 reasons you gave.

But Patterson still has a long way to go to equal what Harvin did the last couple years in Minny. Harvin was without doubt one of the top 3 receivers in the league last year before getting hurt.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Bear down. Packer fan in the bar im at being obnoxious and trying to start fights with Bears fans. I would feel no sympathy if Rodgers broke his collarbone again.