2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[ChicosBailBonds]

And still both Garrett and Jones defend not running in the 2nd half? Garrett said he was worried they might get too many 'bad' runs!! So when did a 'bad' run happen in the 1st half?

Trust me, it boggles the minds of Cowboys fans to no end.  Absolutely mind boggling, especially when you have the second worst defense in NFL history.  Wouldn't you want to keep them on the sideline and not on the field.  Amazing.

[GGGG]

The Pittsburgh @ Green Bay game could be snow game.  A little early to predict yet, but they are predicting multiple inches of snow on Sunday.

[4everwarriors]

The Pittsburgh @ Green Bay game could be snow game.  A little early to predict yet, but they are predicting multiple inches of snow on Sunday.

So, more than 2?

[brandx]

What the hell are you talking about? Did you not comprehend anything said above?

IF...again...IF...Detroit loses and Green Bay WINS, for the Bears, the outcome of Eagles/Bears means absolutely nothing. If GB and Detroit both lose, then the Bears have everything to play for. Not once did I say otherwise. Same with Philly. If Dallas loses, they have everything to play for. If you read the above AGAIN, I said "If Dallas wins, Philly has nothing to play for", which is 100% true.

Come on man.

1. The game would still mean plenty. The Bears are the 4th seed right now - but a win over Philly would move them into the 3rd spot - with possible implications in later rounds.

2. You want to rest a QB who has played a game and 1/2 over the last 2+ months. Makes no sense. He needs the work and the team needs the continuity. And if Cutler is in, then you obviously don't rest anyone on offense.

Now if there is a 2 or more TD lead/deficit going into the 4th quarter, then I say to sit them the rest of the game

[wardle2wade]

When do they announce what game theyre flexing for week 17?  Is after this week's results?   I always felt like they gave at least a week's notice.

[MerrittsMustache]

When do they announce what game theyre flexing for week 17?  Is after this week's results?   I always felt like they gave at least a week's notice.

IIRC, the league is required to give 12 days notice except during Weeks 16-17, when they only have to give 6 days notice. In other words, we'll know on Monday.

Someone feel free to correct me if that's wrong.

[Dish]

1. The game would still mean plenty. The Bears are the 4th seed right now - but a win over Philly would move them into the 3rd spot - with possible implications in later rounds.

2. You want to rest a QB who has played a game and 1/2 over the last 2+ months. Makes no sense. He needs the work and the team needs the continuity. And if Cutler is in, then you obviously don't rest anyone on offense.

Now if there is a 2 or more TD lead/deficit going into the 4th quarter, then I say to sit them the rest of the game

It's a near fact, either team will trade a playoff berth over worrying about a seed right now. Zero doubt.

Yes, absolutely I want Cutler to rest, Briggs too, if it means nothing. 70 degrees, humid, downpours most of the game, why would a team risk a QB coming off an ankle and groin injury to play in that if it means nothing? I'm a Bears fan saying this to, it blows my mind how if you're a Packers fan, you'd ont see this as an integirty issue.

[Dish]

IIRC, the league is required to give 12 days notice except during Weeks 16-17, when they only have to give 6 days notice. In other words, we'll know on Monday.

Someone feel free to correct me if that's wrong.

NBC will either announce it at the conclusion of Bears/Eagles or the league will announce it by 9am Monday morning.

[MerrittsMustache]

Rodgers supposedly out again on Sunday...although, I won't believe it completely until I actually see him in his civies on the sidelines.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10171386/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-again

[wadesworld]

Rodgers supposedly out again on Sunday...although, I won't believe it completely until I actually see him in his civies on the sidelines.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10171386/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-again

Interesting. Last week he took some first team reps early in the week but then got none later on in the week. This week he's splitting reps. If he's not ruled inactive, I'd have a hard time seeing him not playing Sunday. We'll see this afternoon

[hairy worthen]

Interesting. Last week he took some first team reps early in the week but then got none later on in the week. This week he's splitting reps. If he's not ruled inactive, I'd have a hard time seeing him not playing Sunday. We'll see this afternoon

Flynn taking first team snaps today, Rodgers watching on the sideline.

[hairy worthen]

Rodgers ruled out

[brandx]

It's a near fact, either team will trade a playoff berth over worrying about a seed right now. Zero doubt.

Yes, absolutely I want Cutler to rest, Briggs too, if it means nothing. 70 degrees, humid, downpours most of the game, why would a team risk a QB coming off an ankle and groin injury to play in that if it means nothing? I'm a Bears fan saying this to, it blows my mind how if you're a Packers fan, you'd ont see this as an integirty issue.

I agree with you on Briggs this week - coming off an injury, it is too much of a risk.

On the rest, I think we will still disagree.

[jsglow]

Just watched the presser.  Coach McCarthy kept referring to an 'organizational decision' and gave lip service to his support but in reality I think he's pissed as hell.

[GGGG]

Just watched the presser.  Coach McCarthy kept referring to an 'organizational decision' and gave lip service to his support but in reality I think he's pissed as hell.

He might be pissed...but I hope he's not pissed *at* the medical staff.

[MerrittsMustache]

Could be an interesting decision. If GB beats Pittsburgh behind a big game from Flynn and Rodgers is then cleared to play, does MM go back to him for the biggest game of the season even though he will have missed 8 weeks? I assume he would and not bat an eye, but at the same time, the team can't afford to have a slow start from a rusty QB.

Addition: Nevermind. Thinking about it more, Rodgers is playing if he's cleared. GB isn't going into the playoffs with Matt Flynn unless they absolutely have to.

[Hards Alumni]

Could be an interesting decision. If GB beats Pittsburgh behind a big game from Flynn and Rodgers is then cleared to play, does MM go back to him for the biggest game of the season even though he will have missed 8 weeks? I assume he would and not bat an eye, but at the same time, the team can't afford to have a slow start from a rusty QB.

Addition: Nevermind. Thinking about it more, Rodgers is playing if he's cleared. GB isn't going into the playoffs with Matt Flynn unless they absolutely have to.

Yeah I think you're right.  It has to be discussed... but then again, you can't sit your MVP.

[jsglow]

He might be pissed...but I hope he's not pissed *at* the medical staff.

My gut tells me he's pissed at Ted.

[hairy worthen]

My gut tells me he's pissed at Ted.

I think he is pissed at the whole situation in general. Why would tt want to sit Rodgers with the season on the line unless he had to. The bone isn't healed to the drs satisfaction, I think it is simple as that. The risk of serious longer term injury is still too great.  You are correct though he is definitely pissed.

[jesmu84]

When did Rodgers turn into the nfl version of derrick rose?

[wadesworld]

When did Rodgers turn into the nfl version of derrick rose?

When he was medically cleared to play and just didn't because he had no muscle memory or something like that.  Oh wait...

[4everwarriors]

Maybe his collarbone atrophied, hey?

[brandx]

When did Rodgers turn into the nfl version of derrick rose?

A little different when you are talking about a broken bone in a violent sport. Has nothing to do with pain tolerance - strictly a case of whether the bone has healed or not healed yet.

[jesmu84]

Sorry guys. Didn't think I needed teal

[Dish]

Interesting talk out there about the lack of traditional ownership on the Packers side hurting their decision making down the stretch here.