2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[Markusquette]

If Jerry Jones doesn't clean house after this season, he is a complete idiot.  How did Dallas even win a game this year with the defense they have.  Five straight possession TDs by GB in second half and, the offensive play calling was just diabolical.  Not a Cowboy fan, but just basic football at its worst for "Americas Team".

Heck, even Aikman/Buck, who just said one of the worst defeats in Cowboys history, could not believe it.

Packers are America's team lately

[real chili 83]

I'm not even getting into this anymore cutler>mccown that's it

Fair enough.  

Cutler just seems like a bighairywetcat. He's tough to like.

You may be right.  

[brandx]

Cowboys haven't won it yet.  If you were honest, you know that replay never should have happened as that was a hold \ PI playing Witten on that play.

Dallas still has a great chance of choking this, we have one of the worst defenses in NFL history

Worst coach/GM combo since Matt Millen in Detroit

[DegenerateDish]

After two fourth quarter comebacks, Packers can't think of replacing Flynn.

Right?

[ChicosBailBonds]

If Jerry Jones doesn't clean house after this season, he is a complete idiot.  How did Dallas even win a game this year with the defense they have.  Five straight possession TDs by GB in second half and, the offensive play calling was just diabolical.  Not a Cowboy fan, but just basic football at its worst for "Americas Team".

Heck, even Aikman/Buck, who just said one of the worst defeats in Cowboys history, could not believe it.

This what we do now.  Jerry is the owner and the GM.  Would any GM survive after going 16 years with one playoff win?  Of course not, but he won't fire himself.  

I just laugh now.  Like I said in this thread, I knew GB was going to win, because it's what Dallas does.  JJ created this mess years ago, and he refuses to take any ownership of it...no pun intended.

And Romo, it appears now that Romo audibled out of several run plays, which he is famous for doing.  Garrett throwing him under the bus, but in a way I don't blame him.  No excuse for it, but we've done it all year long.  

And the truly sad thing, we still control our own destiny.  LOL.  It's such an epic joke I've been numb to it for the last 10 years to be honest.  


EDIT:  Romo just admitted he audibled out of several runs.   Burlington, WI...please take your village idiot back.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Packers are America's team lately

Not based on the annual polls done by Harris.

But if Dallas keeps doing this, they will lose that fake title.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2013/10/16/Research-and-Ratings/Harris-Poll.aspx

[Hards Alumni]

This what we do now.  Jerry is the owner and the GM.  Would any GM survive after going 16 years with one playoff win?  Of course not, but he won't fire himself.  

I just laugh now.  Like I said in this thread, I knew GB was going to win, because it's what Dallas does.  JJ created this mess years ago, and he refuses to take any ownership of it...no pun intended.

And Romo, it appears now that Romo audibled out of several run plays, which he is famous for doing.  Garrett throwing him under the bus, but in a way I don't blame him.  No excuse for it, but we've done it all year long.  

And the truly sad thing, we still control our own destiny.  LOL.  It's such an epic joke I've been numb to it for the last 10 years to be honest.  


EDIT:  Romo just admitted he audibled out of several runs.   Burlington, WI...please take your village idiot back.

Garret allowed Romo to audible out of running plays?  Holy christ.  Talk about the inmates running the asylum.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Garret allowed Romo to audible out of running plays?  Holy christ.  Talk about the inmates running the asylum.

I don't know if he "allowed it", but yes Romo has the option.  I would have been calling time out immediately if I heard him audible out of it, but that's my Boys for you.  He did it in the first half as well, with Dallas up big and they threw 3 straight times when they could have put the dagger in.  It's comical, it really is.

[GGGG]

Rodgers has the same option.

[jesmu84]

Is jay a hall of famer? No. But look around the league this year. Hell just look at some rosters where the QB position has been a rotating door in the last 5-10 years (bears and browns come to mind). Yes, Cutler is a good qb. But no, he can't win on his own - few nfl qbs can (brady, manning, brees, Rodgers currently). The question for the bears is much bigger than just "is jay a good qb?" You've gotta factor in age, injury history, finances, etc. I won't be surprised either way if they sign him or don't - I can see reasonable arguments both ways. If it were me, I'd dump some of the big contracts on the D side of the ball (peppers), rebuild/reinvest in the defense, franchise Cutler for a couple years and groom a young qb behind him - keep Cutler around for not sucking now, and build for the long term.

[NavinRJohnson]

I think Dallas has a legit injury excuse on defense, at least somewhat, but I think it is safe to assume Garrett lost his job today.

It was nice to see Flynn play well. He looked like former GB Packer Matt Flynn in the second half. That, and Eddie Lacy is an absolute bitch. Very fun to watch him run the ball.

[wadesworld]

I think Dallas has a legit injury excuse on defense, at least somewhat, but I think it is safe to assume Garrett lost his job today.

It was nice to see Flynn play well. He looked like former GB Packer Matt Flynn in the second half. That, and Eddie Lacy is an absolute bitch. Very fun to watch him run the ball.

Yeah, no kidding.  But he's too fat, right?  Thanks, NFL, for passing on Eddie Lacy, some teams twice.  If nothing else, many teams who have to play the Packers should've taken him just to keep him from the Packers.

[MerrittsMustache]

McCown put up good numbers in back-to-back losses to last place teams yet people want him to remain the starter. Cutler puts up good numbers in a win against a last place team and people want him replaced. Everyone will see what they want to see.

[NavinRJohnson]

So, in an attempt to make people's heads explode, if you had Super Bowl talent across your roster, but you had to choose your QB between Cutler and Romo, who you taking?

Pretty sure I'm taking Cutler.

[MerrittsMustache]

Yeah, no kidding.  But he's too fat, right?  Thanks, NFL, for passing on Eddie Lacy, some teams twice.  If nothing else, many teams who have to play the Packers should've taken him just to keep him from the Packers.

Lacy has been solid this season, no doubt. However, given his size and running style, do you think he will still be an effective runner 2-3 years from now? I have a feeling that teams feared that he wasn't going to have the longevity that you'd like from a 1st or 2nd round pick.

[wadesworld]

Lacy has been solid this season, no doubt. However, given his size and running style, do you think he will still be an effective runner 2-3 years from now? I have a feeling that teams feared that he wasn't going to have the longevity that you'd like from a 1st or 2nd round pick.

In 2-3 years?  Yes, I definitely do.  I'm sure he will have to sit a game here and a game there, but 2-3 years into his career I definitely expect him to still be effective.  At 30?  No.  But the dude is a top 5 running back in the NFL and is only a rookie.  The fact that Montee Ball went before Eddie Lacy is a complete joke.

[Sir Lawrence]

I'm a Packer fan.  I respect the Bears franchise, but hate them with a fan's passion.

 The talk about Cutler is simply ridiculous.  He's an incredibly tough hombre, with a rocket arm.

His pass to Alshon Jeffery today was 55 yards of cannon.  Yes, incredible catch, but Jay threw it from 55 yards away.  More than half the fracking field.  

With Brandon and Alshon in Cutler's arsenal, the chatter about McCown makes little sense.  

[Sir Lawrence]

So, in an attempt to make people's heads explode, if you had Super Bowl talent across your roster, but you had to choose your QB between Cutler and Romo, who you taking?

Pretty sure I'm taking Cutler.

Agree.

[DegenerateDish]

Am I the only one that thinks the Lions throttle the Ravens tomorrow?

[Hards Alumni]

Rodgers has the same option.

Of course he does, but it is the coaches JOB to control his players.  If Romo is doing that you call TO, or you yank him from the game.  Totally unacceptable.

[GGGG]

Of course he does, but it is the coaches JOB to control his players.  If Romo is doing that you call TO, or you yank him from the game.  Totally unacceptable.

Yeah that's because the Cowboys power structure is completely f*cked. 

[GGGG]

Am I the only one that thinks the Lions throttle the Ravens tomorrow?

They are so damn hard to predict...who knows.

[MerrittsMustache]

In 2-3 years?  Yes, I definitely do.  I'm sure he will have to sit a game here and a game there, but 2-3 years into his career I definitely expect him to still be effective.  At 30?  No.  But the dude is a top 5 running back in the NFL and is only a rookie.  The fact that Montee Ball went before Eddie Lacy is a complete joke.

You don't really believe that, do you? Top 5 in the NFL? He's averaging under 4 yards per carry. Let's put it this way, which four guys are you taking off the list below (from the top of my head. I could be missing someone)?

Adrian Peterson
Marshawn Lynch
Alfred Morris
Matt Forte
Jamaal Charles
Shady McCoy
Reggie Bush
DeMarco Murray

[NavinRJohnson]

I'm a Packer fan.  I respect the Bears franchise, but hate them with a fan's passion.

 The talk about Cutler is simply ridiculous.  He's an incredibly tough hombre, with a rocket arm.

His pass to Alshon Jeffery today was 55 yards of cannon.  Yes, incredible catch, but Jay threw it from 55 yards away.  More than half the fracking field.  

With Brandon and Alshon in Cutler's arsenal, the chatter about McCown makes little sense.  

On the money. He's never been and never will be Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, but few are, but you can certainly put him in the next class of Rothlesberger, Eli, Romo, etc. McCown isn't close.

[DegenerateDish]

Just saw the QB that has the highest 4th quarter QBR on the season, begins with Cut ends with Ler.