2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[GGGG]

Vadger QB.

Aside from Wilson, who played one year for UW-madison and is really a product of NC State, the Vadgers haven't exactly lit the world on fired the last, oh, century in terms of QBs in the NFL.

Randy Wright
Brooks Bollinger
Neil Graff
Jim Sorgi
VanderKelen
Tolzien

I don't think Bevell ever even made a roster.  Decent college QBs, but just have had a tough time in the NFL.

You obviously don't recall the glory days of Arnie Herber.

[MUfan12]

One was clearly tipped.

If I were a Pack fan, I'd be much more concerned about the sinking ship that is Green Bay's season.

At some point, you run out of fingers and toes to plug all the holes.

Unless Rodgers has one of those Reggie White Jesus healings this week, they're toast.

[GGGG]

At some point, you run out of fingers and toes to plug all the holes.

Unless Rodgers has one of those Reggie White Jesus healings this week, they're toast.

I think they have to win the next two.

[GGGG]

Doesn't help that the Packer's defense is reverting to 2012 mode.

[Dish]

Doesn't help that the Packer's defense is reverting to 2012 mode.

Even if Rodgers comes back soon, having Lions, Cowboys, Bears offenses still on the sked will not help.

[MattyWarrior]

Bring back Cecil Isbell

[ChicosBailBonds]

Does Martin have the same violent past? I honestly don't know. I think that has to play into it.

I'm going with fast and loose, either way.  Do we know about Martin's past....seems very little mentioned about him.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Even if Rodgers comes back soon, having Lions, Cowboys, Bears offenses still on the sked will not help.

With Rodgers back, the Pack will destroy the Cowboys "defense"

[Dish]

Two absurd conversion calls, baffling.

[jesmu84]

Pack it up. Shelve Cutler. Move up in the draft. Just my opinion.

[tower912]

Two absurd conversion calls, baffling.

The first was a cliché.   Roll the quarterback right and try to hit a receiver in the corner.   The second was an attempt at deception that got blown up.   

[tower912]

If Cutler starts.......  I predict Suh sacks him again and he re-injures his groin.   The NFL finds a way to fine Suh for the hit.     Another defensive injury for the Bears.   Ouch.   I am going to do something that I cannot ever remember doing before and predict the Lions win in Chicago.   Too many injuries on defense catches up to the Bears and the Lions win a shootout.    Having actually made that prediction, as a Lions fan I expect to be let down. 

I came close.   When they called roughing the passer on the first 2-point attempt, I was giddy, as I thought the Lions had found a new way to lose that I hadn't thought of.   After all of these years, they continue to amaze with their creative and innovative ways to lose or attempt to lose. 

[brandx]

Pack it up. Shelve Cutler. Move up in the draft. Just my opinion.

2 points as a GB fan.

1. Please Jay - stay healthy
2. The defense was a bigger problem today than Rodgers injury. Capers reminds me of Tom Landry or Chuck Noll where the game has passed him by. The defense cannot make the adjustments to improve in the 2nd half of games.


3. I think we can feel more comfortable with Tolzien as the backup this offseason rather than Harrell or Wallace or Young or Coleman

[🏀]

NO!

[GGGG]

2 points as a GB fan.

1. Please Jay - stay healthy
2. The defense was a bigger problem today than Rodgers injury. Capers reminds me of Tom Landry or Chuck Noll where the game has passed him by. The defense cannot make the adjustments to improve in the 2nd half of games.


3. I think we can feel more comfortable with Tolzien as the backup this offseason rather than Harrell or Wallace or Young or Coleman

I agree completely on 2 or 3.  I feel much better about Tolzien...but that defense is just terrible.  I think it is time for a new look there.

[tower912]

Green Bay's defense is just as beat up as their offense.   Hard to be critical when the top 3 pass rushers are all injured.    GB has overcome injuries before and played well.    This year, it just isn't happening.    Look what happened to Indy today.   Sometimes, enough injuries reach critical mass and the on-field product spirals. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

As I said the other day, I thought it would be a big challenge to win 2 of 3.  I think it will be a big challenge to win 1 of 3 quite frankly.  After Rodgers gets back, you'll likely win all of those.  Finish 10-6.

[Dish]

As I said the other day, I thought it would be a big challenge to win 2 of 3.  I think it will be a big challenge to win 1 of 3 quite frankly.  After Rodgers gets back, you'll likely win all of those.  Finish 10-6.

Won't mean a thing, as the Lions are going to run away with the North.

[tower912]

Dish, if there is a way to screw up a wet dream, the Lions will find it.    6-3 is nice, but it only means that they don't lose 11 games.    Any other team in the same situation, I agree with you.   But history shows that the Lions find a way.

[Dish]

Dish, if there is a way to screw up a wet dream, the Lions will find it.    6-3 is nice, but it only means that they don't lose 11 games.    Any other team in the same situation, I agree with you.   But history shows that the Lions find a way.

Normally I would agree, but the rest of their sked looks like a Marquette non conf buy game sked. Easiest in league. Tiebreaker over Bears, win on Thanksgiving gives them all NFC North tiebreakers (assuming here they beat Vikes again, but even that game could be meaningless).

[tower912]

@Pittsburgh
vs Tampa
vs Green Bay
@ Philadelphia
vs Baltimore
vs NY Giants
@ Minnesota

Anywhere from 8-8 to 12-4.   20 years since Detroit last won the division.   If there is a way to mess it up, they will.    Of course, for Detroit to lose it, Chicago or GB have to play well enough to win it.    That may be the bigger challenge. 

[NavinRJohnson]

Won't mean a thing, as the Lions are going to run away with the North.

North has quickly turned into a giant suckfest.

[MUeng]

As I said the other day, I thought it would be a big challenge to win 2 of 3.  I think it will be a big challenge to win 1 of 3 quite frankly.  After Rodgers gets back, you'll likely win all of those.  Finish 10-6.

Agreed.  I think the packers may end up being unbeatable the last couple weeks of the season when we get healthy, but by then it won't matter.  Just hoping for wild card right now.

[wadesworld]

Agreed.  I think the packers may end up being unbeatable the last couple weeks of the season when we get healthy, but by then it won't matter.  Just hoping for wild card right now.

I thought that, but I'm not sure.  Are they ever going to really be healthy?  Finley obviously won't be back, will Cobb be fully healthy and the same player he was when he comes back?  When does he come back?  Does the defense get healthy?  If they get healthy, do they turn it back around (I felt like they were much improved early in the season, as of the last few weeks they look exactly like they did last year)?  I hope you're right, but I just don't know that the Packers get back to healthy.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Won't mean a thing, as the Lions are going to run away with the North.

They might, but they aren't that good either quite frankly.