2013 NFC North/NFL Thread

[SaintPaulWarrior]

I'll say one thing about the Browns.  It proves that although he was a brilliant head coach, Mike Holmgren couldn't evaluate talent to save his life.

He also traded the Brown's 4th, 5th and 7th round picks to switch 1st round spots with the Vikings to draft Richardson.

[reinko]

This trade is as one sided as it gets.  Giving up a top 3 NFL RB early in his career for a playoff bound team's first rounder?

Total head scratcher.

But, its Cleveland.

Nope, bet a bomber on it.

[NavinRJohnson]

He also traded the Brown's 4th, 5th and 7th round picks to switch 1st round spots with the Vikings to draft Richardson.

What your post doesn't capture for those who don't remember  is that they moved up only 1 spot, from 4 to 3.

[Hards Alumni]

Nope, bet a bomber on it.

You don't think the Colts are a playoff team with the addition of T-Rich?

I haven't actually. I'll look for it though. Is he a Yahoo guy?

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You don't think the Colts are a playoff team with the addition of T-Rich?


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The AFC is pretty horrible.

[GGGG]

What your post doesn't capture for those who don't remember  is that they moved up only 1 spot, from 4 to 3.

The only NFL running back worthy of that is Peterson.  Trent Richardson is a completely replaceable part in a modern NFL offense.  Brandon Weeden on the other hand...

EDIT:  This is what gets me annoyed when coaches like McCarthy want to run for the sake of "balance."  Last Sunday showed how the Packers offense should be run.  Throw the damn ball 80% of the time until running lanes open up, and THEN you run.  That's how Starks got his 100 yard game - you could have put 20 NFL RBs in the same position and they would have achieved the same thing. 

[MU B2002]

Curious to see if any other bottom feeders make big moves.

[reinko]

You don't think the Colts are a playoff team with the addition of T-Rich?

You seen there schedule?  My prediction for them...at least 7 losses, with tough toss up games against @ Zona, @ SD, and @Tenn.

Sun, Sep 22  Loss
@
49ers

Sun, Sep 29  Win
@
Jaguars

Sun, Oct 6 Loss
vs.
Seahawks

Mon, Oct 14  Toss Up
@
Chargers

Sun, Oct 20 Loss
vs.
Broncos

Sun, Nov 3   Loss
@
Texans

Sun, Nov 10  Win
vs.
Rams
1:00 PM (ET)

Thu, Nov 14  Toss Up
@
Titans

Sun, Nov 24  Toss Up
@
Cardinals

Sun, Dec 1  Win
vs.
Titans

Sun, Dec 8  Loss
@
Bengals

Sun, Dec 15  Win
vs.
Texans

Sun, Dec 22  Loss
@
Chiefs

Sun, Dec 29  Win
vs.
Jaguars

[SaintPaulWarrior]

What your post doesn't capture for those who don't remember  is that they moved up only 1 spot, from 4 to 3.

Exactly...it is not like the Queens were going to take Richardson.  Maybe take him and trade him but they were pretty much set on Kalil the whole way.

[GGGG]

Exactly...it is not like the Queens were going to take Richardson.  Maybe take him and trade him but they were pretty much set on Kalil the whole way.

Or the Vikings had a better offer from another team for the #3 spot.

[jesmu84]

Ug... please tell me the NFL will not start following the trend of the NBA in tanking for the following season. I loathe the NBA for that reason. And if the NFL owners decide they can be successful by dumping salary/players for picks and put a crappy product on the field, it will be awful.

[MerrittsMustache]

You seen there schedule?  My prediction for them...at least 7 losses, with tough toss up games against @ Zona, & the road game at Tenn.

Division winners: Denver, NE, Houston, Cincy/Baltimore (other in as a WC).

That leaves one spot for...Indy? KC? Miami? Pittsburgh? Tenn?

9-7 or even 8-8 may get them in.

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Or the Vikings had a better offer from another team for the #3 spot.

Very good point.

[GGGG]

Division winners: Denver, NE, Houston, Cincy/Baltimore (other in as a WC).

That leaves one spot for...Indy? KC? Miami? Pittsburgh? Tenn?

9-7 or even 8-8 may get them in.

Will point out that Miami has already won at Indy, and Tannehill has put together a couple nice games so far...both on the road.  They can go 10-6.

[reinko]

Division winners: Denver, NE, Houston, Cincy/Baltimore (other in as a WC).

That leaves one spot for...Indy? KC? Miami? Pittsburgh? Tenn?

9-7 or even 8-8 may get them in.

Oh God, Pittsburgh is a tire fire of a team right now.  I think KC has the inside track followed by Miami, then Indy.

[DegenerateDish]

To steal a line from Mike Murphy...

Let the record show I had KC and Miami in the playoffs (as wildcards) before the season started.

We'll see if it holds up that way.

[tower912]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2013/09/lions_ndamukong_suh_shrugs_off.html


Naw, no illegal block here.   Why should there be a fine?    Double standard Goodell

[wadesworld]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2013/09/lions_ndamukong_suh_shrugs_off.html


Naw, no illegal block here.   Why should there be a fine?    Double standard Goodell

Not saying you're wrong about that play, but Suh should probably just keep his mouth closed.  The guy has 22 sacks in over 3 seasons and has 3 total tackles in 2 weeks this year.  While he's not a complete bust, he also isn't having many teams shaking in their boots.  If those lineman are like gnats in the air why is he not dominating games?

[DegenerateDish]

Whoever wins the NFC East will be no better than 9-7 at best. All four teams are equally lousy, be fitting if they all went 8-8.

[MU B2002]

Whoever wins the NFC East will be no better than 9-7 at best. All four teams are equally lousy, be fitting if they all went 8-8.

But but but Chip Kelly, high speed offense, defenses can't keep up...

[DegenerateDish]

But but but Chip Kelly, high speed offense, defenses can't keep up...

I have to admit I was a fool and got sucked in during the first half against the Redskins.

Playing the NFC East and AFC North is a huge advantage to Pack, Bears, Lions this year. May keep Vikes alive too.

[Sunbelt15]

Whoever wins the NFC East will be no better than 9-7 at best. All four teams are equally lousy, be fitting if they all went 8-8.

The last 9-7 Superbowl team was from the NFC East. Be careful what you wish for. Personally, I think San Francisco will beat out Denver in the SB.

[ATWizJr]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2013/09/lions_ndamukong_suh_shrugs_off.html


Naw, no illegal block here.   Why should there be a fine?    Double standard Goodell

You call that an illegal block?  He fell on the ground in front of Suh.  Nothing to see here.

[jesmu84]

Simmons sums up what I was trying to say re: comparing nfl teams starting to tank vs what nba teams already do.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9697327/game-changers

[forgetful]

You call that an illegal block?  He fell on the ground in front of Suh.  Nothing to see here.

That is one of the funniest things I think I've seen in a football game.  I wouldn't say he fell on the ground.  Looks like he dove, but also barely made contact.