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New Addition to the Big East
« on: July 11, 2013, 08:13:27 PM »
Long-time visitor, infrequent poster to the MU Scoop Board.

If the Big East expands, I've seen names like Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, VCU, etc. I may have missed something, but how about Davidson? Private school. Faith-oriented. No football. High academics. Member of the Southern Conference. Relatively small arena of 5,223 seats, but draws much better than DePaul. NCAA (11) and NIT (5) appearances. Great coach. Solid program.

Your thoughts?

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 08:15:18 PM »
 Let's just get the league we have under our belt before we acquire more mid-majors.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 08:18:46 PM »
Yeah--maybe Vander can shake their hands when they get off the plane.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 08:20:36 PM »
Let's just see Davidson grow in the A-10 first.
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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 08:23:59 PM »
Long-time visitor, infrequent poster to the MU Scoop Board.

If the Big East expands, I've seen names like Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, VCU, etc. I may have missed something, but how about Davidson? Private school. Faith-oriented. No football. High academics. Member of the Southern Conference. Relatively small arena of 5,223 seats, but draws much better than DePaul. NCAA (11) and NIT (5) appearances. Great coach. Solid program.

Your thoughts?

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 08:46:27 PM »
Long-time visitor, infrequent poster to the MU Scoop Board.
how about Davidson?

David who?


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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 08:50:10 PM »
Davidson has been a quality mid-major for some time.   However, I don't see this conference expanding for several years.   Let us see what the landscape looks like then. 
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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 09:04:35 PM »
Long-time visitor, infrequent poster to the MU Scoop Board.

If the Big East expands, I've seen names like Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, VCU, etc. I may have missed something, but how about Davidson? Private school. Faith-oriented. No football. High academics. Member of the Southern Conference. Relatively small arena of 5,223 seats, but draws much better than DePaul. NCAA (11) and NIT (5) appearances. Great coach. Solid program.

Your thoughts?

They wouldn't have 11 NCAA Tournament appearances without playing in a weak conference where they got the autobid each time.
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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 09:28:33 PM »
Davidson has been a quality mid-major for some time.   However, I don't see this conference expanding for several years.   Let us see what the landscape looks like then. 
The conference will get very interested in expanding when they only get 3 NCAA bids.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2013, 10:06:25 PM »
The conference will get very interested in expanding when they only get 3 NCAA bids.

Really? Diluting the quality of the conference, but boosting W-L records would be a benefit?

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2013, 10:30:16 PM »
While geography concerns hasn't been a problem for conference reformant. A case could be made that if Davidson was added, then they would be a bigges misfit than Creighton.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 11:06:06 PM »
Davidson has a football team.  I was on a plane ride with them last year.  Nice guys.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 11:38:00 PM »
No. Don't get me wrong, I like Davidson's program, but they are not Big East material. People already think Creighton is a stretch, and they have a much richer history and overwhelmingly better attendance than the Wildcats. Maybe if they take off in the A10 and then build a new stadium, but I doubt it.

BEast will expand to 12 teams in the next two years. My hope is VCU and Gonzaga. My guess is VCU and Saint Louis.
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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2013, 12:54:35 AM »
If it wasn't for Steph Curry, Davidson would not even be brought up in a possible BE expansion conversation.
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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2013, 05:35:06 AM »
ideal exspansion to 16:

byu and notre dame

gonzaga and vcu

slu  and richmond

this is my ideal, because unnatural carnal knowledge dayton. we shall see how it shakes out, but probably worse than this.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2013, 06:12:06 AM »
If it wasn't for Steph Curry, Davidson would not even be brought up in a possible BE expansion conversation.

Finally some REAL talk! Totally agree.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2013, 07:13:29 AM »
No need for more A-10 schools. Ten teams allow for true home and away scheduling, something not seen in the Big East in almost 20 years.

Don't dilute the product.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2013, 07:34:38 AM »
No need for more A-10 schools. Ten teams allow for true home and away scheduling, something not seen in the Big East in almost 20 years.

Don't dilute the product.


"True home and away scheduling" is something that is a driver in fans eyes but not conference members eyes.  I think the BE will expand, and I would bet on SLU and Richmond, but it may be a longer period of time than initially thought.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2013, 09:03:07 AM »
Listen, I'm all for adding anyone to the conference that meets the following criteria:

1) Private
2) Significant basketball history/tradition & committed to success
3) Has upset UW in a tournament game
3.5) Someone MU has beaten in a tournament game
4) Not located in a claimed "Home of the Wright Brothers"

Ooooooohhhh.... so close, Davidson.  

(For what it's worth, it's not that we don't like North Carolina... we just don't like that other place where Wilbur and Orville lived.)
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Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2013, 09:19:52 AM »
ideal exspansion to 16:

byu Duke and notre dame

gonzaga Kentucky and vcu

slu  and richmond

this is my ideal, because unnatural carnal knowledge dayton. we shall see how it shakes out, but probably worse than this.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2013, 03:28:49 PM »
ideal exspansion to 16:

byu and notre dame

gonzaga and vcu

slu  and richmond

this is my ideal, because unnatural carnal knowledge dayton. we shall see how it shakes out, but probably worse than this.

I would love BYU but they won't be independent in football for long.

I would love Notre Dame but we have to face it...ACC is stronger than us and probably always will be

Gonzaga, VCU, SLU, totally agree.

Richmond is a no if we get VCU. We don't need two schools in the same city.

I think in the short term, we will only expand by two. Most likely VCU and SLU (but hoping for Gonzaga).

Eventually we may go to 14 or even 16....but I don't see that in the short term. There's just so few basketball only schools that are worth adding.
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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2013, 03:43:44 PM »
I would love BYU but they won't be independent in football for long.

I would love Notre Dame but we have to face it...ACC is stronger than us and probably always will be

Gonzaga, VCU, SLU, totally agree.

Richmond is a no if we get VCU. We don't need two schools in the same city.

I think in the short term, we will only expand by two. Most likely VCU and SLU (but hoping for Gonzaga).

Eventually we may go to 14 or even 16....but I don't see that in the short term. There's just so few basketball only schools that are worth adding.

Well, yeah, that was just my pie in the sky.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2013, 06:26:37 PM »
I thought Davidson might be a good potential addition, but more research shows they are one of the smallest D1 schools, only have an undergrad population of like 1500, that's REALLY small and don't really have many graduate students.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2013, 07:15:47 PM »
I still prefer 10, but if you had to go to 12...

Let UConn and Temple park their football in the MAC and play all other sports in the Big East. A step up from Dayton or Davidson.

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Re: New Addition to the Big East
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2013, 07:55:18 PM »
I still prefer 10, but if you had to go to 12...

Let UConn and Temple park their football in the MAC and play all other sports in the Big East. A step up from Dayton or Davidson.

I seriously doubt that Villanova would allow Temple into the Big East.
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