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Benny B

And yet, all of the Big Ten fans at our work lunch yesterday were blindly defending the guy.  Par for the course.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

ChicosBailBonds

A good friend of mine was the finalist for the Rutgers AD job a few years ago (2009), but Greg Schiano wanted his guy and that's who they got.  Schiano is gone, and now so is the AD.

It will be interesting if he is up for the job again, or if he even wants to be up for it now.


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 05, 2013, 10:52:07 AM
A good friend of mine was the finalist for the Rutgers AD job a few years ago (2009), but Greg Schiano wanted his guy and that's who they got.  Schiano is gone, and now so is the AD.

It will be interesting if he is up for the job again, or if he even wants to be up for it now.


Hoopaloop to Rutgers!


Blackhat

Soccer Mom merica strikes again

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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MUCam

Quote from: Stone Cold on April 05, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
Soccer Mom merica strikes again

I am all against kitty-fication of America, but the physical garbage was over the top. The name calling, etc, was not bad. But, you simply cannot systematically denigrate another human being through physical means and get away with it, especially when you are charged with being a developer of young men's lives.

His physical antics should not be protected and saying so doesn't make anyone a "soccer mom."


GGGG

Quote from: MUCam on April 05, 2013, 11:33:47 AM
I am all against kitty-fication of America, but the physical garbage was over the top. The name calling, etc, was not bad. But, you simply cannot systematically denigrate another human being through physical means and get away with it, especially when you are charged with being a developer of young men's lives.

His physical antics should not be protected and saying so doesn't make anyone a "soccer mom."


Rice deserved to be fired.

However, I am a little disturbed with the public drumbeat to oust Pernetti. 

mu03eng

Quote from: MUCam on April 05, 2013, 11:33:47 AM
I am all against kitty-fication of America, but the physical garbage was over the top. The name calling, etc, was not bad. But, you simply cannot systematically denigrate another human being through physical means and get away with it, especially when you are charged with being a developer of young men's lives.

His physical antics should not be protected and saying so doesn't make anyone a "soccer mom."



I agree with you CAM.   And once again it isn't the act itself it's the "cover-up" that gets you.  The AD is out because he saw the video and only suspended him 3 days.  If he had been pro-active, punished him longer, rolled out a reform plan for Rice and/or fired him then, and also released the video....he still has a job and Rice does too potentially.

All ADs should take crisis management courses which include identifying potential crisis before they happen.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

MUCam

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 05, 2013, 11:36:11 AM

Rice deserved to be fired.

However, I am a little disturbed with the public drumbeat to oust Pernetti. 

Fair enough. To me, Pernetti is a much a casualty of circumstance as of anything else.

Given what transpired at Penn State (ie administration cover ups, lack of transparity, etc.), Pernetti was bound to be fired. He is not being fired because of the suspension he issued. He is being fired because nothing was revealed when he issued the suspension. Transparity is the real culprit. Had Pernetti released the videos when he issued the suspension, we'd be in a different ball game.

MUCam

Quote from: mu03eng on April 05, 2013, 11:38:44 AM
I agree with you CAM.   And once again it isn't the act itself it's the "cover-up" that gets you.  The AD is out because he saw the video and only suspended him 3 days.  If he had been pro-active, punished him longer, rolled out a reform plan for Rice and/or fired him then, and also released the video....he still has a job and Rice does too potentially.

All ADs should take crisis management courses which include identifying potential crisis before they happen.

Ha. Beat me to it. Agreed.

AlienWarrior

What's next? firing coaches/ADs for cursing? verbal abuse

GGGG

Quote from: AlienWarrior on April 05, 2013, 11:53:47 AM
What's next? firing coaches/ADs for cursing? verbal abuse


Did you see the tape?  It was beyond verbal abuse.  There is no doubt that Rice should have been fired.

The Equalizer

Quote from: mu03eng on April 05, 2013, 11:38:44 AM
I agree with you CAM.   And once again it isn't the act itself it's the "cover-up" that gets you.  The AD is out because he saw the video and only suspended him 3 days.  If he had been pro-active, punished him longer, rolled out a reform plan for Rice and/or fired him then, and also released the video....he still has a job and Rice does too potentially.

All ADs should take crisis management courses which include identifying potential crisis before they happen.

I strongly suspect the answer as to why neither Rice and Pernetti took this more seriously is that behind closed doors of practices, without cameras running, this stuff happens far more frequently than anyone wants to admit.  

Did Rice pick up these habits from O'Neill?  Did he see it from other head coaches at other stops along his career?  I have to admit that this was the first thought that came to mind.  And if so, no wonder he didn't think much of it.

My bet is that there are plenty of ADs and coaches out there today thinking "there but for the grace of God" and vowing to change their approach.

Blackhat

I've played games of jail dodgeball in grade school that were more physical.  Mrs. Correlo would piss on this video.

AlienWarrior

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 05, 2013, 11:55:30 AM

Did you see the tape?  It was beyond verbal abuse.  There is no doubt that Rice should have been fired.

I understand that it was much more than verbal abuse. However, at this rate, coaches may get fired for verbal abuse as well

Blackhat

Can you still play dodgeball or smear the queer at elementary schools?

AlienWarrior

Motta shoved a player during a game. I wonder if anyone has tapes of his practices?

Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown

Quote from: AlienWarrior on April 05, 2013, 11:59:59 AM
I understand that it was much more than verbal abuse. However, at this rate, coaches may get fired for verbal abuse as well
I'm no liberal, but calling someone a "f@ggot" just seems counterproductive. It's not clever nor does it intimidate anyone other than someone who is gay.

Can we at least agree that the verbal abuse wasn't creative?
"Half a billion we used to do about every two months...or as my old boss would say, 'you're on the hook for $8 million a day come hell or high water-.    Never missed in 6 years." - Chico apropos of nothing

Tums Festival

Just glad this turd will be in another conference soon.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

warriorchick

Quote from: AlienWarrior on April 05, 2013, 11:53:47 AM
What's next? firing coaches/ADs for cursing? verbal abuse

Replace the gay slurs with racial slurs. Would that still be acceptable to you?  
Have some patience, FFS.

AlienWarrior

Quote from: sixstrings03 on April 05, 2013, 12:06:57 PM
I'm no liberal, but calling someone a "f@ggot" just seems counterproductive. It's not clever nor does it intimidate anyone other than someone who is gay.

Can we at least agree that the verbal abuse wasn't creative?

Ok, let's agree to have a list of acceptable verbally abusive terms. Maybe it should be limited to a private female body part and no gay slurs

Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown

Quote from: AlienWarrior on April 05, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
Ok, let's agree to have a list of acceptable verbally abusive terms. Maybe it should be limited to a private female body part and no gay slurs
Ha I don't care I'm just saying be creative. If the purpose is to get someone's attention I guess I don't know that "f@ggot" would get mine, unless it had a creative pairing with some other spicy adjectives.

The lack of creativity/entertainment value was more offensive to me.
"Half a billion we used to do about every two months...or as my old boss would say, 'you're on the hook for $8 million a day come hell or high water-.    Never missed in 6 years." - Chico apropos of nothing

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