LW on the Dodds Board

[ChicosBailBonds]

But, but, but ... he didn't say we REALLY, REALLY want to keep Buzz at Marquette.
And only listed Buzz as "one" of the best young coaches in the game. Why not "The" best?
And what does Buzz's age have to do with it? He's a great coach period!

Don't forget with cherries on top, too.  LW forgot that.

[ChicosBailBonds]

LW doesn't get much leeway after buzz leaked the SMU embarrassment through IWB.   We hope we keep him isn't exactly the assertive tone you want.  But actions speak much louder than words so I don't really care about that.  Pilarz and LW need to be assertive and aggressive in their actions.  This is when u find out what your ad is made of this is showtime.  We have two minor leaguers in pilarz and lw. Hopefully they're now ready for the big leagues and the competition.

The fact that Buzz felt the need to leak the SMU stuff is an interesting thread all on its own.  I remember another coach that used to do that and people here would have their heads exploding.  Oh. THE.  IRONY.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Please tell me which part is inaccurate.  They came from Portland and Scranton respectfully.  Every AD stated they led in realignment. I know Seton Hall's and St. John's ad Said they were leading the charge as well.  LW ultimately faces his toughest test now and I get some people want to provide cover and some blame him unjustly.  But ultimately the buck stops with him, he can't be shielded from criticism if buzz leaves sans  for a few elite jobs.

And Buzz came from New Orleans, yet he's doing just fine at MU.

Seriously, are you suggesting that people can't work their way up?  Are you suggesting because an Athletic Director came from Portland or the President from Scranton they can't succeed?  Good thing we never hired a coach from a small place like Belmont Abby.  

Of course, Stone, you also ignore the national articles that say MU and Georgetown led this, including a power struggle with the two schools over the final school (Richmond or Creighton)....I wonder who won that power struggle.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I do agree with 4ever that keeping people happy is a full time job that needs to be done everyday of the year. If, and I say if, Buzz were to leave it would nothing to do with money IMO. Let's hope it was an effort by LW to show his support for Buzz and all is well.

Goose, do you believe happy people can still leave for other jobs?  Perfectly content people, that may want a different challenge, different scenery, different pace? 

Keeping someone happy is one thing, but it doesn't guarantee anything in my experience.

[KonaWarrior]

Anyone read this yet?

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=415&f=2850&t=11428270

[Aughnanure]

He isn't staying forever, Forever.  No one does anymore.  Enjoy the ride, and hope he's here for 10 to 15.  Longest run of a coach at MU since Al has been 9 years.  I'd love to get Buzz to 10 at a minimum, but our history has shown that to be a challenge.

The treachery....

Well that's somewhat incorrect. There are plenty of coaches that will be/ already are lifers. No reason Marquette/Buzz couldn't.

[Blackhat]

Pretty sure every other AD wasn't sitting on their a$$ waiting for Larry to make the rounds.    Everyone came together to agree on this conference which was frankly an obvious outcome.


Dear Alumni and Friends of Villanova Athletics:

I know how much you all care about Villanova's athletic programs and how they bring our community together. And, as fans and supporters of the Wildcats, I know that you are all concerned about what the continued realignment of college athletic conferences means for the future of our athletic programs.

We recognize that you have questions and concerns, especially as you see the news that some of our long-standing Big East colleagues are departing for other conferences. The very nature of this realignment only fuels rumors and speculation, much of which is beyond our control. But rest assured that Villanova is engaged and actively doing all that is in our power to protect the best interests of our University and our student athletes.

We are prepared to do whatever is necessary to secure and advance Villanova and our brand. The Big East membership has expressed openness to our insistence to work to further advance the core asset of the Big East Conference--its basketball programs. With Villanova taking a leadership role, the basketball schools are exploring every avenue to do just that.

While the model of athletic conferences continues to change and unique conference paradigms emerge, there will always be a place for elite basketball, and Villanova is steadfastly committed to maintaining a basketball program that competes at the highest level. We have the resources available to ensure that, despite any changes to the conference landscape, our Wildcats will continue to be a nationally competitive program.

In close, I can assure you that a tremendous amount of time, energy and resources from Villanova's Board of Trustees through all levels of University leadership have been focused on this issue for a long time. I wish we were in a position to share more specifics, but in this type of situation that is just not possible. I thank those of you who have been in touch, and while we are not able to respond to all of your inquiries, know that we genuinely appreciate your steadfast support and passion.

As we move forward, our objective remains the same--insuring national prominence for our athletic programs, driven by men's basketball. And we have genuine reasons to be confident. Things may not look the same, but we can absolutely still achieve our goals.

Sincerely,
Vince Nicastro
Director of Athletics

Dear Friar Fans:

Providence College takes its commitment to the College's athletic programs, most specifically, the men's basketball program, very seriously.
The Friar men's basketball program is the cornerstone of our athletic department and a key component of Providence College. I want to assure our alumni and our fans that we are taking the necessary steps to ensure the future success of all of our athletic programs, including men's basketball. We believe that Ed Cooley is one of the top coaches in the nation. In the last 18 months, Coach Cooley and his staff have brought some of the top players in the nation to Providence College. Ensuring that Coach Cooley is here to guide our program and that he has all the essential elements to run a championship caliber program is something we are working to solidify.


We believe that Providence College men's basketball is poised for a run of great success and is on the verge of becoming one of the top college basketball teams in the country. We want to create an environment that allows us to sustain success and provide you, the fans, with the excitement that you deserve.
While it may appear to some that recent realignment news is eroding the environment for our men's basketball program, we remain optimistic about our future. We believe that with change comes opportunity. There are opportunities now for us to position our athletic department and our men's basketball program for long-term success. We will explore every opportunity in order to reach our goal.
We have some of the greatest fans in the nation. Please continue to support us and know that we working tirelessly to ensure that Providence College athletics and its men's basketball program will continue to be strong and proud.
Sincerely,

Bob Driscoll
Athletics Director
Providence College

[Goose]

Chico's

No doubt sometimes people leave jobs they are happy at. Often it would be for money, family reasons or career advancement. I personally would never fault anyone for following those guidelines, actually respect all three a great deal. I was not implying Buzz is not happy. Was responding to 4ever's post which I believe does come into play. Every employer should work daily to make their environment the best possible for their employees. If that is accomplished employer can look himself in the mirror if they lose key employee.

One thing that makes confident is that from what I have heard firsthand is Dick Strong was a master at making great environment, especially for people he wanted to keep.

[🏀]

Chico's

No doubt sometimes people leave jobs they are happy at. Often it would be for money, family reasons or career advancement. I personally would never fault anyone for following those guidelines, actually respect all three a great deal. I was not implying Buzz is not happy. Was responding to 4ever's post which I believe does come into play. Every employer should work daily to make their environment the best possible for their employees. If that is accomplished employer can look himself in the mirror if they lose key employee.

One thing that makes confident is that from what I have heard firsthand is Dick Strong was a master at making great environment, especially for people he wanted to keep.

So what yer saying is Strong wants Buzz out?

[Goose]

PTM

My guess is Dick Strong wants Buzz to be here a long time. My point was Strong's role has been large in the program and hopefully his business style has been copied over the years. His fingerprints are everywhere on program and I hope the culture he utilized in his business life has been used to some degree at MU.

[Blackhat]

A letter similar to the Providence AD from Larry to the MU faithful on the success this year and the intentions to do everything they can to keep Buzz as a long term representative of the school, etc., etc.   would go a long way for Larry right now.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Well that's somewhat incorrect. There are plenty of coaches that will be/ already are lifers. No reason Marquette/Buzz couldn't.

No one is a lifer until they retire as a lifer.  How many are left?  Coach K, Coach Boeheim (who may be asked to leave before he wants to).  Coach Izzo can still leave, he has been close in the past.  Those guys already have 20+ into it.

The odds of him staying a lifer are so small that I'm going with the stats to say he won't be.  I'll enjoy him while he is here.  It just doesn't happen anymore.  I would love for him to do it, but preparing as if he won't.

[ChicosBailBonds]

A letter similar to the Providence AD from Larry to the MU faithful on the success this year and the intentions to do everything they can to keep Buzz as a long term representative of the school, etc., etc.   would go a long way for Larry right now.

No it wouldn't, you guys that hate him for

A) being a Notre Dame grad
B) having the audacity of saying we need to clean some things up
C) don't like his baseball caps

would complain anyway.  It wouldn't do a thing.  Your minds are made up.  And when Buzz leaves, which 99.9% of coaches do at some point, you'll blame him (even if LW is long gone).  It's how it works here.

[Goose]

Lifers are tough to find today and do not expect anyone to be a lifer. Would love to see a 10 year+ run by Buzz and see what happens from there. My biggest issue is why MU coaches always are mentioned? Last year I mentioned why isn't Mike Brey ever mentioned for opening? Not comparing him to Buzz, but for some reason folks think MU is farm system for college coaches. I would love to get out of that rut.

[Blackhat]

No it wouldn't, you guys that hate him for

A) being a Notre Dame grad
B) having the audacity of saying we need to clean some things up
C) don't like his baseball caps

would complain anyway.  It wouldn't do a thing.  Your minds are made up.  And when Buzz leaves, which 99.9% of coaches do at some point, you'll blame him (even if LW is long gone).  It's how it works here.

It is true, many people on here have their demarcation line drawn....on both sides.   With your dislike of JUCOs and thirst for traditionals unfortunately you have developed overt biases on this issue.

[keefe]

No it wouldn't, you guys that hate him for

A) being a Notre Dame grad
B) having the audacity of saying we need to clean some things up
C) don't like his baseball caps

would complain anyway.  It wouldn't do a thing.  Your minds are made up.  And when Buzz leaves, which 99.9% of coaches do at some point, you'll blame him (even if LW is long gone).  It's how it works here.

Don't forget his Shaved Head with Goatee look. Such a cliché.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Anyone read this yet?

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=415&f=2850&t=11428270

Buzz and LW haven't spoken in months?  Interesting.  Well, the MU folks I know in the athletic department and other departments at the university say that is 100% bullshyte.  Is there some tension, sure....but that poster loses all credibility with that comment.

I also love this part of his\her post "when Cottingham was unceremoniously ushered out the door".  Uhm, what in the hell was MU supposed to do, keep him around?  Did Mrs. Cottingham write that post over there?  

Now I have to go take a shower to get that stink off from going over there.

[Goose]

Chico's

Only thing that bothers me about the link you just referenced was the guy sounds like Big Daddy from this site. His writing style and thorough attention has Big Daddy ring to me. Many on here have great respect for BD and his posts. He dos not post often, but when does most on here listen.

[HoopsMalone]

Whatever the issue is with Buzz and LW, it sounds pretty petty unless there is A LOT that we don't know.  

Buzz should not want all yes men around him.  It's better for him and the university to have a strong administrator.  Buzz is all about accountability from his players, so it doesn't really make sense that Buzz would have such a big problem with a coach accountable to an AD in some fashion.  It sounds overblown to me.  

It doesn't sound like LW is telling Buzz what to do or who to recruit.  It sounds like Buzz has all of the resources he needs.  Under LW, Buzz and MU have had success in the tournament and on the recruiting trail.  It seems to be working to me.  

LW and Fr. Pilarz should maybe have a beer with Buzz if this relationship thing is that big of a deal.  But, I'd be shocked if the grass was greener anywhere else.  You are never going to have great relationships with 100% of your co-workers.

[KenoshaWarrior]

Buzz and LW haven't spoken in months?  Interesting.  Well, the MU folks I know in the athletic department and other departments at the university say that is 100% bullshyte.  Is there some tension, sure....but that poster loses all credibility with that comment.

I also love this part of his\her post "when Cottingham was unceremoniously ushered out the door".  Uhm, what in the hell was MU supposed to do, keep him around?  Did Mrs. Cottingham write that post over there? 

I call bull on that post as well.  
their are people I hate at my workplace but I talk to them just because.   Plus he says he has only been following marquette since Buzz got the job yet it his handle is
"Marquette71"

I cant imagine Larry would be that stupid either.  He knows what is good for Goose is good for the Gander and that if he forced Buzz out he will become wiiillldllyyyy unpopular!!

[ChicosBailBonds]

It is true, many people on here have their demarcation line drawn....on both sides.   With your dislike of JUCOs and thirst for traditionals unfortunately you have developed overt biases on this issue.

I don't dislike JUCOs, I don't think we need a roster of 4 or 5 of them.  It's not how you build a consistent program.

I don't want a roster full of traditionals, I would like 1 or 2 that can shoot the ball....we are a horrible shooting team.

[lab_warrior]

Don't shoot the messenger, but evidently LW said something on WTMJ like "We hope to keep Buzz" and the folks on Dodds are going nuts.

Jeez, thanks for doing us all a service and bringing this to our attention. 



Message board nitwits, being message board nitwits.  NEWS AT 11.

[YoungMUFan4]

I call bull on that post as well.  
their are people I hate at my workplace but I talk to them just because.   Plus he says he has only been following marquette since Buzz got the job yet it his handle is
"Marquette71"

I cant imagine Larry would be that stupid either.  He knows what is good for Goose is good for the Gander and that if he forced Buzz out he will become wiiillldllyyyy unpopular!!

If you look at his username, it says he has been a member since...4/3/2008

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Whatever the issue is with Buzz and LW, it sounds pretty petty unless there is A LOT that we don't know.  

Buzz should not want all yes men around him.  It's better for him and the university to have a strong administrator.  Buzz is all about accountability from his players, so it doesn't really make sense that Buzz would have such a big problem with a coach accountable to an AD in some fashion.  It sounds overblown to me.  

It doesn't sound like LW is telling Buzz what to do or who to recruit.  It sounds like Buzz has all of the resources he needs.  Under LW, Buzz and MU have had success in the tournament and on the recruiting trail.  It seems to be working to me.  

LW and Fr. Pilarz should maybe have a beer with Buzz if this relationship thing is that big of a deal.  But, I'd be shocked if the grass was greener anywhere else.  You are never going to have great relationships with 100% of your co-workers.

agree. I am certain this is one giant non-story.

[KenoshaWarrior]

If you look at his username, it says he has been a member since...4/3/2008

Shoot than I guess we are F#4ked