How about Wichita State smoking the Buckeyes?

[MURFC]

Wow!  Good for the Schockers. Another B10 school about to go down.

[MattyWarrior]

Look again

[Sunbelt15]

Who said the B10 was the best conference? BE baby!

[Newsdreams]

Wichita about to blow it! Need to score if they want to win.

[jesmu84]

Refs doing everything they can to give this game to OSU. Free throw disparity this half is unreal.

[MURFC]

Look again

No kidding.  Not my team, so I don't care about speaking too soon.  Great game down the stretch!

[KenoshaWarrior]

Refs doing everything they can to give this game to OSU. Free throw disparity this half is unreal.

OSU gets like every call  
That charge call was an atrocity!!

[Newsdreams]

Refs doing everything they can to give this game to OSU. Free throw disparity this half is unreal.

Totally it is just incredible some of the foul calls they have gotten

[Newsdreams]

Wichita fouled on that made shot not even called.

[Eldon]

remember the idea of having Final Four with all four coming from the Bit Teen?  Could be that they don't get any in the FF.

[Eldon]

Wichita helps my bracket.  And they are a Jordan team.  Go shockers!

[Avenue Commons]

Wichita helps my bracket.  And they are a Jordan team.  Go shockers!

They buy their own jerseys. Their home jerseys are Nike, non Brand Jordan.

Love seeing the Big 10 get knocked out. 2 Big East teams still in play.

[GGGG]

They buy their own jerseys. Their home jerseys are Nike, non Brand Jordan.

Love seeing the Big 10 get knocked out. 2 Big East teams still in play.

They have the Jumpman logo...isn't that brand Jordan?

[Eldon]

THE SHOCKERS!! 

THEE Wichita State University

[Jay Bee]

It's gotta make chicos squirm. JUCO city there.

[🏀]

They have the Jumpman logo...isn't that brand Jordan?

WS is a Jordan team. Not a featured team,but still a team. So is Albany, Fresno and St. Bonny, cant just have four good teams and make money. Expand that revenue.

[ChicosBailBonds]

It's gotta make chicos squirm. JUCO city there.

I prefer 4 year players.  Most successful programs go that route, because kids are there for 4 full years.  I'm excited about having Steve Taylor for three more years for example. Of Vander for four years.

[bilsu]

Gonzaga got a lot of criticism for losing to them in the third round. They ended up beating the one and two seeds on the way to final four. Indiana should of lost in the third round but escaped to be whipped in fourth round. There really was not that much difference between Gonzaga and Indiana.

[keefe]

There really was not that much difference between Gonzaga and Indiana.

Biggest difference is that Few is both a better coach and superior human being.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Gonzaga got a lot of criticism for losing to them in the third round. They ended up beating the one and two seeds on the way to final four. Indiana should of lost in the third round but escaped to be whipped in fourth round. There really was not that much difference between Gonzaga and Indiana.

Why don't we wait to see how far Syracuse goes before answering that.  It's a crapshoot.  Gonzaga also struggled just to beat a 16 seed and IU smoked their 16 seed game.  IU won their second game, and the Zags didn't.  IU also won a real conference this year.  There was plenty of difference between the two.  What would Gonzaga have gone in the Big Ten this year...6, 7 losses?

[brewcity77]

I prefer 4 year players.  Most successful programs go that route, because kids are there for 4 full years.  I'm excited about having Steve Taylor for three more years for example. Of Vander for four years.

Hmm...at the highest levels, I'd actually disagree with that. Kentucky kids aren't there for 4 full years. North Carolina kids, Kansas kids, Duke kids aren't there for 4 full years. Yes, some of them are, but their best players are in the NBA within 1-3 years. Who is worth more to a program, someone like Jimmy Butler who comes in and contributes what he does for 3 years or Nerlens Noel who is likely headed to the NBA after 1 year at Kentucky when they missed the tournament? I'd even argue Jae Crowder was worth more to Marquette than Shabazz Muhammad was to UCLA. He reached the Sweet 16 twice in two solid years while Shabazz had moments of brilliance but only for one year.

If you want to be an elite program, it's virtually assured that you are going to have players that don't give you 4 full years. When you are Kentucky, Kansas, or UCLA, your best players leave before 4 years are up. When you take JUCOs, it's the same. They leave before 4 years are up. But if they are going to play at NBA draft pick levels like Butler, Crowder, DJO, and hopefully McKay, does it really matter whether the missing 1-2 years are at the front or back of their career?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hmm...at the highest levels, I'd actually disagree with that. Kentucky kids aren't there for 4 full years. North Carolina kids, Kansas kids, Duke kids aren't there for 4 full years. Yes, some of them are, but their best players are in the NBA within 1-3 years. Who is worth more to a program, someone like Jimmy Butler who comes in and contributes what he does for 3 years or Nerlens Noel who is likely headed to the NBA after 1 year at Kentucky when they missed the tournament? I'd even argue Jae Crowder was worth more to Marquette than Shabazz Muhammad was to UCLA. He reached the Sweet 16 twice in two solid years while Shabazz had moments of brilliance but only for one year.

If you want to be an elite program, it's virtually assured that you are going to have players that don't give you 4 full years. When you are Kentucky, Kansas, or UCLA, your best players leave before 4 years are up. When you take JUCOs, it's the same. They leave before 4 years are up. But if they are going to play at NBA draft pick levels like Butler, Crowder, DJO, and hopefully McKay, does it really matter whether the missing 1-2 years are at the front or back of their career?

Brew, does KU, UK, UCLA, IU, Duke, UNC, etc recruit JUCOs or HS players?

I prefer 4 year players...you can't get 4 years out of a JUCO.  There's  a reason why elite programs recruit HS players.  Sure, not all will make it 4 years, but they are recruiting HS kids for a reason.

[keefe]

There was plenty of difference between the two. 

There sure is. The Zags coach is a decent, genuine gentleman while the IU coach is a charlatan.

[keefe]

Brew, does KU, UK, UCLA, IU, Duke, UNC, etc recruit JUCOs or HS players?

Chico, what are your thoughts about Jerome Whitehead or Lloyd Walton? 

[brewcity77]

Brew, does KU, UK, UCLA, IU, Duke, UNC, etc recruit JUCOs or HS players?

No. You specifically said players that are there for 4 full years. I'm saying if you get someone with the talent and impact of a Jae Crowder, DJO, or Butler for 2-3 years, you take them. And FWIW Kentucky did offer Jimmy Butler a scholarship and Joe Fulce convinced him to stick with Buzz and Marquette.

The 4-year argument just doesn't hold up the way it used to. The elite programs are all trying to get guys they know will be there for 1-2 years. I fail to see how recruiting a JUCO All-American is different.

Well...I guess it is different. The JUCO guys have a much better chance of leaving with a degree.