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Henry Sugar

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 05, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
Jamil is a high talent who makes dumb fouls.  In a nutshell, that explains his inconsistency.


  • Games that Jamil has 3 or more fouls:  Averages 1.9 PPG in the first half, and 7 for the game
  • Games that Jamil has 2 or less fouls:  Averages 5.5 PPG in the first half and 10 for the game
  • Games that Jamil has two fouls in the first half:  Averages 1.9PPG in the first half and 7.9 for the game
  • Losses where he didn't match up well:  2.9PPG vs. 9.1PGG in wins that he did. Gotta to give credit to the teams who also have taller and quicker big match-ups.

Conclusions: Foul trouble, especially on dumb fouls in the first half 45 feet from the basket, kill Jamil's production.  Teams he doesn't match up well with on the frontline, prevent him from playing that Jae role Buzz wants. Buzz needs to adjust and find Jamil's spots then in these match-ups. It also helps to play Jamil and Taylor with one of our centers, which was in evidence against Providence and USF.  Both Taylor and Jamil can flash at different spots and the threesome then prevent the double team on Gardner as they can collectively work the paint and wide post more effectively. Buzz likes dribble drives versus the zone with paint touches...that hasn't been working with this crew with prolonged success as teams adjsut to prevent the entry.  They don't have a DJO or Jae in the lineup.

I think the Dr. is right on point with this one. To add to it further, here's a breakdown of his net points contributions of this year vs last. Note that this year is just a lot more volatile... better highs but worse lows. Personally, just like last year, I fully expect Buzz to figure out how to use him and then minimize the negative performances.

A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

GGGG

Quote from: Warrior's Path on February 05, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
I think the Dr. is right on point with this one. To add to it further, here's a breakdown of his net points contributions of this year vs last. Note that this year is just a lot more volatile... better highs but worse lows. Personally, just like last year, I fully expect Buzz to figure out how to use him and then minimize the negative performances.




OK, so you could say that he has actually been better this year in the context of the team? 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: honkytonk on February 05, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
Uconn
-HoF HC
-Andre Drummond - 9th pick in lottery (left early)
-Jeremy Lamb - 12th pick in lottery (left early)
-Alex Oriaki - transferred
-Roscoe Smith - transferred
-Michael Bradley - transferred

Syracuse
-Scoop Jardine (graduated)
-Kris Joseph - drafted in 2nd round (graduated)
-Fab Melo - 22nd pick in first round (left early)
-Dion Waiters - 4th pick in lottery (left early)

Syracuse is one of those top teams I was talking about. I'll grant you UCONN, though much of what they lost was due to a scandal.

Henry Sugar

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 05, 2013, 02:31:46 PM

OK, so you could say that he has actually been better this year in the context of the team? 

I would. The problem is that when he's been bad, he's been really bad (Butler, Florida, NC Central, UL).

Like Blackheart said, it's probably because of early foul trouble.
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: honkytonk on February 05, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
Uconn
-HoF HC
-Andre Drummond - 9th pick in lottery (left early)
-Jeremy Lamb - 12th pick in lottery (left early)
-Alex Oriaki - transferred
-Roscoe Smith - transferred
-Michael Bradley - transferred


Before the season started, it was obvious that Lamb was leaving and Drummond was likely a one-and-done. Nothing surprising about those 2 moving on. Oriakhi and Smith were role players and Bradley, based on how he was treated, was never in UConn's long-term plans and never even suited up for the Huskies. IOW, these weren't exactly unexpected, crippling departures.

honkytonk

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 05, 2013, 02:59:35 PM
Before the season started, it was obvious that Lamb was leaving and Drummond was likely a one-and-done. Nothing surprising about those 2 moving on. Oriakhi and Smith were role players and Bradley, based on how he was treated, was never in UConn's long-term plans and never even suited up for the Huskies. IOW, these weren't exactly unexpected, crippling departures.


So losing two centers last year wasnt a big deal because they have....who....this year at the position? Enosch Wolf? Im pretty sure they miss Oriakhi. And there is no question he qould get bigger minutes this year.

If that wasnt enough, they also lost two of their 3 forwards. The only true forward they have on the roster is Daniels. Again, Roscoe Smith would also get minutes this year.

bilsu

What is really odd about Jamil is that he is a versitle player, who does not like physical play. That in itself is not that unusual. What is unusual is that his best position is actually center. He played best last year, when Gardner and Otule were out, because he was playing center.

Henry Sugar

Just to add onto the Jamil tracker.

Fouls (0), Pts (10), Rebounds (5)

Net Point Contribution (+3.9)
A warrior is an empowered and compassionate protector of others.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Warrior's Path on February 07, 2013, 08:45:11 AM
Just to add onto the Jamil tracker.

Fouls (0), Pts (10), Rebounds (5)

Net Point Contribution (+3.9)

He was very good. Aggressive offensively, no cheap fouls.

slingkong

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:03:40 AM
He was very good. Aggressive offensively, no cheap fouls.

"Aggressive" being the key. When he is aggressive - smartly aggressive, without dumb fouls - he is a really good player. His problem is that he too often lets the other team dictate his play.

mu03eng

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2013, 09:03:40 AM
He was very good. Aggressive offensively, no cheap fouls.

He was good, but he once again had at least one dumb foul(his first foul off the ball on the baseline in the first half) and if USF was smart would have had at least 2 more because he bought shot fakes like whoa.

He constantly leaves his feet on defense before his man does which results in half of his fouls, especially on close outs.

I like Jamil's physical skill set but for someone that Buzz says is the smartest guy on the team, he sure does a lot of dumb stuff.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

MU B2002

Quote from: mu03eng on February 07, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
He was good, but he once again had at least one dumb foul(his first foul off the ball on the baseline in the first half)

The boxscore disagrees with you.

BENCH          MIN    FGM-A 3PM-A   FTM-A   OREB   REB   AST   STL   BLK   TO   PF   PTS
Jamil Wilson, F   21   3-9     1-1           3-4            3   5   0   0   1   0   0   10
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

Nukem2

Looking at BE-only  #s may be more instructive:

Mintues - 21.4 in 2013 vs. 27.2 in 2012
FG % - 39.0% vs. 45.3%
3 Pt FG % - 19.0% vs. 35.3%
Point per Game - 6.9 vs. 8.7
Rebounds - 4.7 vs 4.3
FT % 75.0% vs 70.03%
Blocks 7 vs 25 ( 14 vs 25 on a season basis )

In BE play, Jamil is shooting mopre poorly while rebounding about the same while playing 6 less minuts.

mu03eng

Quote from: MU B2002 on February 07, 2013, 01:10:03 PM
The boxscore disagrees with you.

BENCH          MIN    FGM-A 3PM-A   FTM-A   OREB   REB   AST   STL   BLK   TO   PF   PTS
Jamil Wilson, F   21   3-9     1-1           3-4            3   5   0   0   1   0   0   10

Guess I'll have to go back and watch the tape again, I swore he had one.

I stand by the rest of my diatribe.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

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