Jamil...last year v. this year

[nyg]

Why not start Wilson again and then bring Anderson off the bench. Does that help or even make a difference at this point?

[Dunk The Ball Eric]

What is his foul rate compared to last year? I still feel like he commits a lot of dumb fouls and in some games it has definitely limited his PT

[GGGG]

What is his foul rate compared to last year? I still feel like he commits a lot of dumb fouls and in some games it has definitely limited his PT

2.8 pg last year...2.5 this year.

[MerrittsMustache]

Jamil is a solid role player who's going to give 24 hard-fought minutes, 8 points and 4-5 boards. That's what he is and there's nothing wrong with that. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he played a similar role next season while McKay and ST Jr. picked up some of Otule's minutes.

[Lennys Tap]

How is he doing "less with more?"  He's playing the same number of minutes....scoring, rebounding, assisting, etc. pretty much at the same rate.  He simply hasn't improved.

You're right, but with all the minutes, points, rebounds, etc that needed to be replaced the (fair, I think) assumption was that Jamil would benefit statistically. He (along with Cadougan and Mayo) haven't. Vander, Juan and Davante have.

[Sunbelt15]

You're right, but with all the minutes, points, rebounds, etc that needed to be replaced the (fair, I think) assumption was that Jamil would benefit statistically. He (along with Cadougan and Mayo) haven't. Vander, Juan and Davante have.

+1

He is a average D1 talent, but below average Big East player. He may not be able to handle the leadership role given to him and wants to be the role player.

[RushmoreAcademy]

When we did SOTG predictions I had predicted Jamil to finish a couple of games ahead of the next guy.  I've been really surprised that he hasn't stepped into a leading role, but that's college ball for ya. I had a pretty different image of the team in my mind when thinking of Jamil and Lockett than has come to fruition.

[Goose]

Average D1 player, come on? The kid is upper end talent that is not playing consistent basketball. If his numbers are reflective of an underachiever he hardly is average D1 player.

[NickelDimer]

How is he doing "less with more?"  He's playing the same number of minutes....scoring, rebounding, assisting, etc. pretty much at the same rate.  He simply hasn't improved.

You don't think his lack of minutes are performance based?

Last year he had a pretty specific role with an alloted amount of minutes.  He filled that role to expectations.

This year he's been given much more latitude and imo the chance to earn more minutes and he has not capitalized.  So the semantical argument over the word regression is moot.  Last year he was serviceable to productive. This year he's been close to terrible.  To me that's regression.  

[MerrittsMustache]

You don't think his lack of minutes are performance based?

Last year he had a pretty specific role with an alloted amount of minutes.  He filled that role to expectations.

This year he's been given much more latitude and imo the chance to earn more minutes and he has not capitalized.  So the semantical argument over the word regression is moot.  Last year he was serviceable to productive. This year he's been close to terrible.  To me that's regression.  

So he's doing the same things but is now "close to terrible" in your book? How does that make sense?

[NickelDimer]

So he's doing the same things but is now "close to terrible" in your book? How does that make sense?

Beause it's relative.  Do you think he was better in his role last year than he has been this year?

And while he may be doing the same things statistically, I don't think he's played as well this year as he did last year.  My eyes tell me that, not stats.

[brewcity77]

When we did SOTG predictions I had predicted Jamil to finish a couple of games ahead of the next guy.  I've been really surprised that he hasn't stepped into a leading role, but that's college ball for ya. I had a pretty different image of the team in my mind when thinking of Jamil and Lockett than has come to fruition.

And yet we're right there near the top of the Big East. All the more reason to praise Buzz's coaching job this year. If we finish top-4, he absolutely deserves Big East Coach of the Year. Of course they'll give it to Boeheim or Pitino, but considering both are in the Iscariot Wing of the league, and considering Buzz lost two NBA Draft picks on a team most seemed to believe wasn't returning any other NBA talent and is still in contention for the league crown speaks volumes to how good a job he's done. Especially considering how much he's changed about the way this team is playing. The man is a wizard at adapting his style to fit his players.

[MU82]

Average D1 player, come on? The kid is upper end talent that is not playing consistent basketball. If his numbers are reflective of an underachiever he hardly is average D1 player.

Unfortunately, Jamil has been incredibly consistent. Except for Green Bay and another game or two, he has been consistently mediocre. For two years now, he pretty much has consistently given the minimum one would expect from somebody with his physical gifts.

[mileskishnish72]

Re: coach of the year - if I were voting, people going out the door would not be considered for a vote.

[MerrittsMustache]

Beause it's relative.  Do you think he was better in his role last year than he has been this year?

And while he may be doing the same things statistically, I don't think he's played as well this year as he did last year.  My eyes tell me that, not stats.

He's doing the same thing in the same role. He plays 24 minutes off the bench as a role player. I know you use your eyes and ignore stats but in looking at his team rankings this years compared to last year, it actually appears that he's more valuable this season...

Minutes: 5th last year vs 4th this year
Scoring: 6th vs 4th
FG%: 4th vs 4th
3PT %: 2nd vs 1st
Rebounds: 5th vs 3rd
Assists: 6th vs 5th
Blocks: 2nd vs 3rd
Steals: 7th vs 7th

[Dr. Blackheart]

Jamil is a high talent who makes dumb fouls.  In a nutshell, that explains his inconsistency.

• Games that Jamil has 3 or more fouls:  Averages 1.9 PPG in the first half, and 7 for the game
• Games that Jamil has 2 or less fouls:  Averages 5.5 PPG in the first half and 10 for the game
• Games that Jamil has two fouls in the first half:  Averages 1.9PPG in the first half and 7.9 for the game
• Losses where he didn't match up well:  2.9PPG vs. 9.1PGG in wins that he did. Gotta to give credit to the teams who also have taller and quicker big match-ups.

Conclusions: Foul trouble, especially on dumb fouls in the first half 45 feet from the basket, kill Jamil's production.  Teams he doesn't match up well with on the frontline, prevent him from playing that Jae role Buzz wants. Buzz needs to adjust and find Jamil's spots then in these match-ups. It also helps to play Jamil and Taylor with one of our centers, which was in evidence against Providence and USF.  Both Taylor and Jamil can flash at different spots and the threesome then prevent the double team on Gardner as they can collectively work the paint and wide post more effectively. Buzz likes dribble drives versus the zone with paint touches...that hasn't been working with this crew with prolonged success as teams adjsut to prevent the entry.  They don't have a DJO or Jae in the lineup.

[GGGG]

You're right, but with all the minutes, points, rebounds, etc that needed to be replaced the (fair, I think) assumption was that Jamil would benefit statistically. He (along with Cadougan and Mayo) haven't. Vander, Juan and Davante have.

Right.  Again, he is another player not performing up to expectations.  But maybe it was the expectations that were out of whack.

[honkytonk]

And yet we're right there near the top of the Big East. All the more reason to praise Buzz's coaching job this year. If we finish top-4, he absolutely deserves Big East Coach of the Year. Of course they'll give it to Boeheim or Pitino, but considering both are in the Iscariot Wing of the league, and considering Buzz lost two NBA Draft picks on a team most seemed to believe wasn't returning any other NBA talent and is still in contention for the league crown speaks volumes to how good a job he's done. Especially considering how much he's changed about the way this team is playing. The man is a wizard at adapting his style to fit his players.

We lost less talent than some teams. Plus, our losses were predictable because they ran out of eligibility anyways.

[Lennys Tap]

Right.  Again, he is another player not performing up to expectations.  But maybe it was the expectations that were out of whack.

Agree. The question is why? When I look at his performances against tough front lines away from home (Butler, Florida and Louisville) I get (unfortunately) a pretty clear picture. In those games he played 60 minutes, made 2-19 shots, never got to the free throw line, scored a grand total of 4 points and had 12 rebounds.

Everyone says he's a really nice kid. Maybe too nice.

[martyconlonontherun]

I don't know but from my eye test he is not as good this year. A lay up is not equal to a tough shot on great defense just as a board right to you does not have the same effect as a board stolen from the opposing team. Jamil made a huge difference on the full court press which we don't do even close to as much with otule and Gardner playing the 5. Some of that is on buzz but Jamil hasn't found other ways to make as big of an impact. He seems like a player that is great when jacked up so him making a play in full court press seemed to energize him for a big board next trip down. He's like a barbecue lighter without a spark right now.

[Lennys Tap]

We lost less talent than some teams.  

Kentucky (and the other top teams) don't really count. When a borderline top 25 program loses 2 guys to the NBA it's a lot.

[martyconlonontherun]

He's doing the same thing in the same role. He plays 24 minutes off the bench as a role player. I know you use your eyes and ignore stats but in looking at his team rankings this years compared to last year, it actually appears that he's more valuable this season...

Minutes: 5th last year vs 4th this year
Scoring: 6th vs 4th
FG%: 4th vs 4th
3PT %: 2nd vs 1st
Rebounds: 5th vs 3rd
Assists: 6th vs 5th
Blocks: 2nd vs 3rd
Steals: 7th vs 7th

Though we lost 2 huge players and he has been jumped by who I think are lesser players. If he would have remained the same, you would think he would've moved up the list since djo and Jae were stealing all the points.

[honkytonk]

Kentucky (and the other top teams) don't really count. When a borderline top 25 program loses 2 guys to the NBA it's a lot.

I was comparing our losses to other BE teams, not teams outside the conference.

[Lennys Tap]

I was comparing our losses to other BE teams, not teams outside the conference.

We lost the Big East's leading scorer (DJO) and POY (Crowder) to the NBA. Can't imagine anyone lost too much more.

[honkytonk]

We lost the Big East's leading scorer (DJO) and POY (Crowder) to the NBA. Can't imagine anyone lost too much more.

Uconn
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-Jeremy Lamb - 12th pick in lottery (left early)
-Alex Oriaki - transferred
-Roscoe Smith - transferred
-Michael Bradley - transferred

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