2013 MLB Thread

[g0lden3agle]

There are currently 2 possible positions Miggy is playing next year.  Neither is DH.

[CTWarrior]

My argument is that with an injured Cabrera, Detroit was a .500 team over the last 6 weeks.   With a healthy Trout, the Angels were a .500 team all year.    With a healthy Cabrera, Detroit was in the running for best record in the league.   

But that's because the other 24 guys on Cabrera's team are way better than the other 24 guys on Trout's team.  There is nothing in those three sentences that is relevant to the topic of whether Cabrera or Trout is the better player.

[jmayer1]

He should not have won it last year.  He is not the best overall player, he sucks as a third baseman, can't do anything on the base paths....he's a terrific hitter.  That's only part of the game.  Baseball America named him player of the year again, two straight years...they value the complete package.

It is what it is.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mike-trout-robbed-second-mvp-award-miguel-cabrera-155400421--mlb.html

I was actually saying Trout should have won the last 2. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

[brandx]

We can debate Trout vs. Miggy and there are stats to support either guy. But if starting a team, Trout would be the 1st pick. Period.

[g0lden3agle]

We can debate Trout vs. Miggy and there are stats to support either guy. But if starting a team, Trout would be the 1st pick. Period.

I think very few people would disagree with you, even those that voted Miggy as MVP. 

[Lennys Tap]

We can debate Trout vs. Miggy and there are stats to support either guy. But if starting a team, Trout would be the 1st pick. Period.

Nobody who knows anything about baseball would argue against you.

[MerrittsMustache]

Nobody who knows anything about baseball would argue against you.

There would be a fair number of respected GMs who would take a young arm (Kershaw, Fernandez, Bumgarner, etc) over Trout.

[MUBurrow]

There would be a fair number of respected GMs who would take a young arm (Kershaw, Fernandez, Bumgarner, etc) over Trout.

I think Machado might have gotten a little run before his injury as well.

[brandx]

I think Machado might have gotten a little run before his injury as well.

Future all-star definitely - and perennial Gold Glover, but I don't think he is in the same class

[NYWarrior]

Future all-star definitely - and perennial Gold Glover, but I don't think he is in the same class

OPS+ of 98 and 99 ... promising for a 20/21 year old but light years behind the figures Trout delivers, to wit

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/happy-22nd-birthday-mike-trout-2/

[brandx]

OPS+ of 98 and 99 ... promising for a 20/21 year old but light years behind the figures Trout delivers

I do think he develops into a 25 homer guy, though.

[MUBurrow]

That's probably right. I was just thinking of the concerns re Trout's weight at the beginning of the year and how long he projects as a top flight CF - not to mention the relative beating you can take playing center.  I didn't look at the #s though, didn't realize there was THAT much of a disparity.

[MUFC9295]

So Alex Rodriguez "crushed it" in his meeting with MLB today regarding PEDS.  If he can be so defiant in the face of what has been p[ut to us (nonspecifically) as overwhelming evidence.  Why does he fight on an Braun just accepted punishment? 

I've felt the Braun was a relatively passive transgressor and took the penalty in a down season in order to get back on the field.  Now, that's a lot of public scrutiny to face and a ruined image, so that's why I say he must have been guilty of something.  But A-Rod is facing much more harsh penalties and sounds confident of beating the rap.

1) Is A-Rod right? 
2) Might Braun have won if he fought on?

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

So Alex Rodriguez "crushed it" in his meeting with MLB today regarding PEDS.  If he can be so defiant in the face of what has been p[ut to us (nonspecifically) as overwhelming evidence.  Why does he fight on an Braun just accepted punishment? 

I've felt the Braun was a relatively passive transgressor and took the penalty in a down season in order to get back on the field.  Now, that's a lot of public scrutiny to face and a ruined image, so that's why I say he must have been guilty of something.  But A-Rod is facing much more harsh penalties and sounds confident of beating the rap.

1) Is A-Rod right? 
2) Might Braun have won if he fought on?

Braun was totally passive.... Except for attacking the MLB urine collector as an anti-Semite and aggressively lying to teammates, the public and business partners.

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Braun was passive?

What?