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Author Topic: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting  (Read 15880 times)

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Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« on: December 22, 2012, 03:29:59 PM »
I hope he is not the second coming of Jamail Jones

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 03:39:10 PM »
Not all that impressive. Give the minutes to Mayo. And The Big Sheesh.


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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 03:40:13 PM »
I feel that he doesn't even look to shoot, and if that's the case, stay on the  bench.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 03:40:28 PM »
I saw him at Midnight Madness and was impressed; not so much anymore.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 03:42:50 PM »
Midnight Madness is akin to the Playground. The good stuff happens tween the white lines.


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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2012, 03:52:44 PM »
Just making one per game and missing all the rest isn't what I expected. Not as advertised.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 03:53:53 PM »
Still think he can be a 40% 3 point shooter on the year....just in a little bit of a slump/pressing.  He's shown athletically he can at least compete defensively...still like him getting some minutes and stretching the D - but believe Mayo is much better even though Todd looked quite rusty today.
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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 03:55:22 PM »
Was he marketed as a sharper version of Christopherson? If so he has yet to show it. But shooting from deep is an art and prone to streaks. Thomas may catch fire. Is not even Xmas yet.


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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 03:56:40 PM »
Was he marketed as a sharper version of Christopherson? If so he has yet to show it. But shooting from deep is an art and prone to streaks. Thomas may catch fire. Is not even Xmas yet.

Yes but the list above shows he has only made 3 treys since November 29 (6 games).  I think we were hoping to see that kind of production in a half.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 03:58:02 PM »
Career 39% shooter, shooting 31% right now.   If he had 3 more makes for the year, he would be above his career percentage.   If he had one more make at the right time, MU would have one more win.  He's not far off.   Like Trent, he just needs to get acclimated to the speed Buzz wants them to play.  
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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2012, 04:00:12 PM »
As Mayo gets up to speed, Thomas should rarely see the floor. Lord knows he won't be playing much next year.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2012, 04:02:35 PM »
We could sure use a deep threat. Zones are going to kill us in conf play.


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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2012, 04:26:47 PM »
He hesitates and then measures it and shoots it short almost every time, feels the pressure!

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2012, 04:29:29 PM »
As Mayo gets up to speed, Thomas should rarely see the floor. Lord knows he won't be playing much next year.

I think Mayo is going to take more of Lockett's minutes than Jake's.
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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2012, 04:36:17 PM »
I think Mayo is going to take more of Lockett's minutes than Jake's.

Not a chance.  Lockett actually wasn't that bad today - he continues to get rebounds and can do a lot of things out there.  Nothing spectacular mind you, but the little stuff that needs to be done for a basketball team to be successful.  Thomas doesn't do that.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2012, 04:39:39 PM »
Not a chance.  Lockett actually wasn't that bad today - he continues to get rebounds and can do a lot of things out there.  Nothing spectacular mind you, but the little stuff that needs to be done for a basketball team to be successful.  Thomas doesn't do that.

He was terrible in the second half.  He is so tentative offensively (two different times he grabbed a board under the hoop and tried to dribble out, leading to TOs both times) and defensively he looked like a liability.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2012, 04:42:27 PM »
Sultan, I think we are destined to disagree here.   You and I haven't agreed in a thing we have seen out of Lockett or Thomas this year.    To me, it appears that neither one is used to playing at MU's game speed.   It affects Lockett when he puts the ball on the floor, it affects Jake when he rushes his 3.   I have been more pleased with Jakes defense than Lockett's, though I admit that Trent has rebounded well.   But TL was flat out awful in the second half today.  I think we CAN agree that having Mayo back playing in rhythm will be a benefit to the team.  
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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2012, 04:43:13 PM »
He was terrible in the second half.  He is so tentative offensively (two different times he grabbed a board under the hoop and tried to dribble out, leading to TOs both times) and defensively he looked like a liability.


I understand that.  He does actually grab rebounds however.  He's the second leading rebounder on the team right now.  Mayo can't replace that.  Mayo can easily replace what Thomas does with more athleticism and better defense.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2012, 04:45:20 PM »
Sultan, I think we are destined to disagree here.   You and I haven't agreed in a thing we have seen out of Lockett or Thomas this year.    To me, it appears that neither one is used to playing at MU's game speed.   It affects Lockett when he puts the ball on the floor, it affects Jake when he rushes his 3.   I have been more pleased with Jakes defense than Lockett's, though I admit that Trent has rebounded well.   But TL was flat out awful in the second half today.  I think we CAN agree that having Mayo back playing in rhythm will be a benefit to the team. 


Agreed.  I just think right now Lockett gives you more of what you can't get with Mayo with rebounding.  Now, if Taylor or Anderson stepped up to do something, they could certainly take minutes away from Lockett.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2012, 04:47:35 PM »
Career 39% shooter, shooting 31% right now.   If he had 3 more makes for the year, he would be above his career percentage.   If he had one more make at the right time, MU would have one more win.  He's not far off.   Like Trent, he just needs to get acclimated to the speed Buzz wants them to play.  

True, but Jake is 3 for 15 (20%) in his last 6 games.  He seems to be regressing right now.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2012, 04:50:00 PM »
True, but Jake is 3 for 15 (20%) in his last 6 games.  He seems to be regressing right now.

And the majority of those three attempts are wide open looks that are not drained. 

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2012, 04:52:52 PM »
Also ...

Our best 3P% is Jamil Wilson with a sparkling 52.2% (12-23)

Vander Blue's 3P% is 30% (10 - 30), essentially the same as Jake.

Who would have guessed that Jake and Vander would be the same from behind the arc????

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2012, 04:53:23 PM »

Agreed.  I just think right now Lockett gives you more of what you can't get with Mayo with rebounding.  Now, if Taylor or Anderson stepped up to do something, they could certainly take minutes away from Lockett.

This is true, but it won't be Mayo who will make up the difference with rebounding it will be Blue.  Vander was an excellent rebounder last year playing the same role as Lockett this year.

Vander has moved more to the 2 with Mayo out, allowing Lockett to be more of a rebounder.  With Mayo back, Vander will easily pick up the rebounding slack.

I like Thomas coming in for Mayo.  Lockett for Vander.  

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2012, 04:57:07 PM »
This is true, but it won't be Mayo who will make up the difference with rebounding it will be Blue.  Vander was an excellent rebounder last year playing the same role as Lockett this year.

Vander has moved more to the 2 with Mayo out, allowing Lockett to be more of a rebounder.  With Mayo back, Vander will easily pick up the rebounding slack.

I like Thomas coming in for Mayo.  Lockett for Vander. 


I think you see Lockett's minutes drop, but I think you see Thomas minutes pretty much fall off the shelf IMO.  IOW, you will generally see two of Mayo, Blue and Lockett on the floor at any given time.

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Re: Jake Thomas 3 Point Shooting
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2012, 04:57:16 PM »
I still think Jake can shoot. Everything looks ok, but for whatever reason they aren't going down.

He's competing at this level and is a good role player.