Georgia Tech to B1G picking up steam on Twitter FWIW

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

It almost seems like at the end of the day the ACC will implode and the Big East of 2005 might be reform.

Maybe they can change the name of the conference afterwards and will accept basketball only schools?

[honkytonk]

This is amusing. Looking at a couple of different sites, it seems as though some twitter handle with a whopping 10 tweets is spreading like wild fire.

https://twitter.com/TheDeaconReport

Read now...ask questions about author's validity later (or not at all).

[AirPunches]

Just doing some reading around it appears as if UNC fans think they have a standing invitation from the SEC whenever they want it. Whatever happens to Marquette, I've accepted it, but if the ACC could implode it was just be awesome.

They may not admit it but Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame, and Louisville all regret moving there now. UCONN is lucky they weren't invited and may be 50 mil richer because of it.

[The Equalizer]

As long as it finally kills Big East football, I'm for it.

Nothing is going to "kill" Big East football.  No matter how bad it gets, its still a step up from CUSA, MAC, etc.  And as bad as it is, and knowing how unstable the situation is with UConn and Cincy actively trying to leave,  Tulane and ECU jumped at the chance to join.  

And relative to the basketball teams, they're in the catbirds seat.  Honestly, do you think UCF, SMU or Tulane really mind being in a basketball conference with MU, Georgetown or Villanova?  It's the basketball teams that are dissatisfied with the evolving state of affairs.

Right now--aside from UConn or Cincy trying to get to the ACC, the Big East is probably the best available option for a whole host of teams.  And if UConn and/or Cincy leave, the Big East is going to pluck off the next team or two in the pecking order from CUSA.

That leaves the basketball teams to do what they want--however I dont see any way the football teams would have incentive right now to a) disolve the conference, b) waive the $5 million exit fee for basketball programs and c) give up MSG or the Big East brand.  

[GGGG]

They may not admit it but Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame, and Louisville all regret moving there now.

Why?  They are all in a stronger, richer conference.  Even if worse comes to worse, and Clemson, FSU, GT and UNC leave, they are all in better shape than UConn is.

[honkytonk]

Duke
Wake Forest
Boston College
Miami
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincy
UConn
Louisville
USF
----------------------
Non-football

ND
GTown (new market since no UM
SJU
Nova
(no need for SHU and Prov)

Do you really want the ACC to implode? That conference is essentially the old-school BE and there is no guarantee they need/want MU and DePaul. This is our worst case scenario, IMO.

[AirPunches]

Duke
Wake Forest
Boston College
Miami
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincy
UConn
Louisville
USF
----------------------
Non-football

ND
GTown (new market since no UM
SJU
Nova
(no need for SHU and Prov)

Do you really want the ACC to implode? That conference is essentially the old-school BE and there is no guarantee they need/want MU and DePaul. This is our worst case scenario, IMO.

I'm probably being delusional but I think they would consider us. More dominoes will be falling before they get the opportunity to invite bball only members though. ACC is trying to scramble and get a powerful football member right now (Texas?/ND?). I think they realize that adding UCONN and Cincy only creates further instability.

[LAZER]

Duke
Wake Forest
Boston College
Miami
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Cincy
UConn
Louisville
USF
----------------------
Non-football

ND
GTown (new market since no UM
SJU
Nova
(no need for SHU and Prov)

Do you really want the ACC to implode? That conference is essentially the old-school BE and there is no guarantee they need/want MU and DePaul. This is our worst case scenario, IMO.

I don't expect UVA, VA Tech, UNC, NC State, Clemson and FSU all to be able to find homes outside the ACC.  Which theoretically could lead to 12 fball, 4 bball only

[Aughnanure]

I'll believe a school besides Notre Dame can join as a basketball-only in a football conference when I see it.

[Aughnanure]

Interesting thought from the Georgetown board:

It's cold here in SoCal but the guys on the bench met again as usual. Allow me to summarize the suggestion. A few pages ago on this thread, someone suggested bundling the Basketball schools and selling the bundle to one of the conferences. Let's give that some thought. Big East football remains as is or not. A new league is formed with Basketball only schools. Ten, twelve schools, Big East members, add X. or Butler, or whatever, but instead of trying to get a network deal we sell the TV rights of the bundle as a whole to one of the major conferences. What would the B1G, for example, pay the new league to have the rights to televise their games in DC, NYC, Philly, Cinci, Memphis, etc.? If you live in NYC and want to watch the old Big East go at each other, you have to subscribe to the B1G network. There can be games bwn the two leagues. The ACC with Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt, Ville, and all will be a great Hoops league, but Indiana, tOSU, Wisc, Sparty, Georgetown, Nova, UConn, X, Butler, won't be far behind. What does the B1G get out of it: increased cable subscribers, exposure of their brand into major markets, opening up areas to B1G sports, and the opportunity to renegotiate a better deal with a major network? I bet we can get more $ in this scenario, than going it alone. In a few years, when the contract runs out, we will have made our own bed. If we provide great enterntainment, our price goes up, if we don't we have only ourselves to blame.
--vagrant

[GGGG]

The BTN isn't going to have content problems if they go up to 16 teams - especially in the winter.  The conference will be able to provide 6-8 basketball games, and 2-3 hockey games each week.  And that only includes men's sports.  Throw in women's sports and they'll have two games every weeknight and a full slate on Saturdays and Sundays.

[Tugg Speedman]

Interesting thought from the Georgetown board:

It's cold here in SoCal but the guys on the bench met again as usual. Allow me to summarize the suggestion. A few pages ago on this thread, someone suggested bundling the Basketball schools and selling the bundle to one of the conferences. Let's give that some thought. Big East football remains as is or not. A new league is formed with Basketball only schools. Ten, twelve schools, Big East members, add X. or Butler, or whatever, but instead of trying to get a network deal we sell the TV rights of the bundle as a whole to one of the major conferences. What would the B1G, for example, pay the new league to have the rights to televise their games in DC, NYC, Philly, Cinci, Memphis, etc.? If you live in NYC and want to watch the old Big East go at each other, you have to subscribe to the B1G network. There can be games bwn the two leagues. The ACC with Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt, Ville, and all will be a great Hoops league, but Indiana, tOSU, Wisc, Sparty, Georgetown, Nova, UConn, X, Butler, won't be far behind. What does the B1G get out of it: increased cable subscribers, exposure of their brand into major markets, opening up areas to B1G sports, and the opportunity to renegotiate a better deal with a major network? I bet we can get more $ in this scenario, than going it alone. In a few years, when the contract runs out, we will have made our own bed. If we provide great enterntainment, our price goes up, if we don't we have only ourselves to blame.
--vagrant

This makes a ton of sense.

I think the B1G network is intent on world domination.  In other words, the B1G does not want a good deal with ESPN.  They want to be ESPN.  16 football teams and another 10 to 12 basketball teams will keep the three channels of the B1G network (yes they have three channels) filled from September to March with interesting and original sports programming.  50 to 100 millions cable homes from the Mississippi river to the Atlantic ocean will subscribe to this for (CBB can correct me) 80 cents a month per subscriber.

This is why I keep saying we are ok.  Either this or a basketball only conference.

Thank god we are not saddled with a mediocre football team like Uconn, cincy Temple or Memphis.

[MDMU04]

The BTN isn't going to have content problems if they go up to 16 teams - especially in the winter.  The conference will be able to provide 6-8 basketball games, and 2-3 hockey games each week.  And that only includes men's sports.  Throw in women's sports and they'll have two games every weeknight and a full slate on Saturdays and Sundays.

Not to mention why would one conference television network pay another conference money to carry a product that directly competes with their own programming? All kidding aside, it's not like the B1G doesn't have their own men's basketball product to air. I guess it would give them something to show on alternate channels in non B1G markets, but that seems to be a bit of a reach.

[bilsu]

Just doing some reading around it appears as if UNC fans think they have a standing invitation from the SEC whenever they want it. Whatever happens to Marquette, I've accepted it, but if the ACC could implode it was just be awesome.

They may not admit it but Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame, and Louisville all regret moving there now. UCONN is lucky they weren't invited and may be 50 mil richer because of it.

+1

[Tugg Speedman]

The BTN isn't going to have content problems if they go up to 16 teams - especially in the winter.  The conference will be able to provide 6-8 basketball games, and 2-3 hockey games each week.  And that only includes men's sports.  Throw in women's sports and they'll have two games every weeknight and a full slate on Saturdays and Sundays.

-1

No one will watch anything but football and men's basketball.

The rest is filler that does not make money.  Might as well run infomercials.

That is why I think they could expand the B1G to 24 to 26 basketball teams.  They would break them into divisions to make it manageable.  That would give them 3 or 4 worth watching basketball games a night.  Then they would be on Par with ESPN.

Remember they have three channels in Chicago and many other markets.

[Parsighian]

All of this gives new meaning to "Big 10 ACC Challenge"

[Benny B]

The way UNC unnecessarily went on the defensive a week or so ago tells me that they're about to jump ship any day now.

[Dawson Rental]

I suppose that the bottom line here is that residents of Georgia can look forward to having it assumed that they will pay for both the BTN and a SEC cable network as part of their basic cable package.  Lucky them!

[Parsighian]

The Ramblin Wreck to the Big 10 makes as much sense as Okie State