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honkytonk

Quote from: Ners on November 05, 2012, 10:03:18 PM
Huggins didn't pass on Mayo...he tried to get him...Todd chose MU over WVU...but perhaps you are Mountaineer fan in denial? 

nope

77ncaachamps

#51
Get it together, Todd!

Get this degree so you don't have to force yourself to play well into your 40s because you don't have a backup plan.

Basketball isn't everything!

I guess I'm glad I didn't buy these: http://marquette.fanatics.com/COLLEGE_Marquette_Golden_Eagles/search/Replica%204
SS Marquette

martyconlonontherun

I hope Mayo figures it out for his own sake, but he is not a 17-year old kid who wasn't ready to grow up or made a mistake. He is 21 years old and has been given the help from tutors and advisers. Being a former comm major, I've taken plenty of classes where you show up and get a C based on participation. I have trouble believing this is anything more than a commitment to school issue. This is a tough lesson, but he needs to learn his lesson.

Dr. Blackheart

#53
Quote from: honkytonk on November 05, 2012, 09:48:57 PM
There are two schools I wish the ncaa would prohibit recruits from attending:

1) http://www.huntingtonprep.com/

2) Notre Dame Prep (Mass)

And, no, Mayo had academic problems in high school.

Good try.  OJ Mayo graduated from Huntington High not Prep.  The website you linked says he was coached by current staff but elsewhere.  Again, he did not attend Huntington Prep which is newer and under NCAA scrutiny (and where Wiggins goes).  OJ had a 28 ACT and that puts him at 90%+.

Lazar Hayward went to Notre Dame Prep...enough said.  I will say that they specialize in learning disabled kids and both have been cleared by the NCAA.  

Keep trying to disparage MU and a kid struggling.

chapman

Quote from: CAGASS24 on November 05, 2012, 07:39:30 PM
Can kiss whatever good will we had with hunt after he ran that piece about mayo being a new guy after the summer

Or praise Hunt for calling it - he had the "believe it when I see it" skepticism written into his article after all.  And he was right to have it.

Quote from: ryegge on November 05, 2012, 08:32:49 PM
Pretty sure you can't red shirt if ruled ineligible.

Wouldn't do much anyway, unless he's trying to be here when he's 30.

Not sure we've seen our last of Mayo in an MU uniform since there's the second semester and he won't even be practicing.  But if we've learned anything from a Buzz rotation, missing half the year makes it tough for anyone to get major minutes after falling behind.

honkytonk

#55
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 05, 2012, 10:14:36 PM
 

Good try.  OJ Mayo graduated from Huntington High not Prep.  The website you linked says he was coached by current staff but elsewhere.  Again, he did not attend Huntington Prep which is newer and under NCAA scrutiny (and where Wiggins goes).  OJ had a 28 ACT and that puts him at 90%+.

Lazar Hayward went to Notre Dame Prep...enough said.  I will say that they specialize in learning disabled kids and have been cleared by the NCAA.  

Keep trying to disparage MU and a kid struggling.

not disparaging. i always thought he went to huntington prep - my mistake.

btw, what does lazar hayward have to do with the academic profile of the high school he attended? have you ever driven by that school? it looks like it needs a bulldozer.

🏀

Quote from: honkytonk on November 05, 2012, 10:17:34 PM
not disparaging. i always thought he went to huntington prep - my mistake.

btw, what does lazar hayward have to do with the academic profile of the high school he attended? have you ever driven by that school? it looks like it needs a bulldozer.

Wow, keep digging buddy.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: honkytonk on November 05, 2012, 10:17:34 PM
not disparaging. i always thought he went to huntington prep - my mistake.

btw, what does lazar hayward have to do with the academic profile of the high school he attended? have you ever driven by that school? it looks like it needs a bulldozer.

Schools are usually judged by their product rather than how they look.

ND Prep might be awesome, it might be awful... I don't know. But, it's probably a better bet to look at the success of it's graduates vs driving by the building.

But, hey, to each his own, right?


icheights

It is very hard for me not to be very angry about this whole situation..especially when I begin to think about opportunities being taken for granted, but we all learn our lessons in different ways (some far more excruciating than others)

I really hope Todd starts making better decisions.  Good luck to the young man.

honkytonk

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 05, 2012, 10:39:48 PM
Schools are usually judged by their product rather than how they look.

ND Prep might be awesome, it might be awful... I don't know. But, it's probably a better bet to look at the success of it's graduates vs driving by the building.

But, hey, to each his own, right?



I dont think words can really describe Notre Dame Prep. However, here is an article from the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/11/AR2007031101466.html

Here are some excerpts:

" Notre Dame Prep opened in 1952, and its three-story school building has steadily deteriorated since. The front door is broken, so students come and go through a screechy side entrance. The nationally ranked boys' and girls' basketball teams play on a court with chipped blue paint and rounded backboards. Two nights each week, the court doubles as a venue for the town bingo game. Notre Dame Prep stopped resurfacing its basketball court almost a decade ago because elderly bingo players complained about the potential for slipping on a waxed floor.

As part of the financial aid package that pays most of his $17,000 tuition, Beasley helps set up and remove the bingo tables two nights each week. He has only two other responsibilities at Notre Dame: to help the basketball team retain its status as the best prep program in the country; and to attain the grades and SAT score necessary for college eligibility.

Practice becomes a centerpiece of the Notre Dame schedule, because half of the school's 60 students are basketball players recruited from out of state. Ten foreign exchange students from South Korea and a handful of locals make up the rest of the student population. "

LAZER

This is really disappointing.  He's got all the resources and help to get the job done in the classroom and just simply hasn't done it. Nobody's fault but Todd's, hopefully he can get his head out of his ass.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: honkytonk on November 05, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
blahblah

Really?  You started posting today in this thread with a hushmail account? 


honkytonk

Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 05, 2012, 11:19:40 PM
Really?  You started posting today in this thread with a hushmail account? 



no, not today. and yes, hushmail is fantastic.

77fan88warrior

Dude needs to wake up after brother's situation and obvious opportunity at MU. Wake up Todd!

77fan88warrior

Novak thread makes situation seem even worse. We all want him to succeed but he needs to look forward and have a plan.

GGGG

Quote from: honkytonk on November 05, 2012, 09:48:57 PM
There are two schools I wish the ncaa would prohibit recruits from attending:

1) http://www.huntingtonprep.com/

2) Notre Dame Prep (Mass)

And, no, Mayo had academic problems in high school.

I know he did...but that wasn't the reason Huggins passed on him.  As Ners pointed out, he was late to the party and Buzz was on him early.

sellit07

#66
To Todd Mayo -

How can you screw your team just four days before the biggest game of the year? Don't you realize college is the only way you will get to the NBA? I felt bad when you were sent home for the summer. I don't feel one bit sorry for you that you can't keep your grades up.

Thanks for nothing.

GGGG

Quote from: sellit07 on November 06, 2012, 06:14:33 AM
To Todd Mayo -

Idiot...period. How can you screw your team just four days before the biggest game of the year? Don't you realize college is the only way you will get to the NBA? I felt bad when you were sent home for the summer. I don't feel one bit sorry for you that you can't keep your grades up.

Thanks for nothing.


Classy.

Does this impact you at all?

esotericmindguy

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 06, 2012, 06:19:21 AM

Classy.

Does this impact you at all?

Over the top, but rumor is he wasn't showing up to class and even team meetings. Hard to feel bad for him.

sellit07

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 06, 2012, 06:19:21 AM

Classy.

Does this impact you at all?

It impacts me only because I pulled for a guy who was having a tough time in college. If your missing class or not trying hard when you know you need good grades to play how could you pull for somebody like that. Of course everybody would love him to be on the team because he is a big part of the team. Just sad that talent is wasted.

GGGG

Quote from: sellit07 on November 06, 2012, 07:07:55 AM
It impacts me only because I pulled for a guy who was having a tough time in college. If your missing class or not trying hard when you know you need good grades to play how could you pull for somebody like that. Of course everybody would love him to be on the team because he is a big part of the team. Just sad that talent is wasted.

Sure. But anonymously calling him an "idiot" in a public forum is classless. He screwed himself more than anyone. No need for someone with no skin in the game to pile on.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: quagmire on November 06, 2012, 07:20:26 AM
No, actually, I'm a lifelong Warrior fan, with a daughter currently attending MU. I believe Buzz is a slime ball who will end up getting the program on probation.

Huh, that's funny. Based on your first two posts every here thinks you're a slime ball too!

sellit07

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 06, 2012, 07:22:54 AM
Sure. But anonymously calling him an "idiot" in a public forum is classless. He screwed himself more than anyone. No need for someone with no skin in the game to pile on.

My apologies for calling him an idiot. That was just a little out of frustration finding out the news this morning.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: sellit07 on November 06, 2012, 07:25:17 AM
My apologies for calling him an idiot. That was just a little out of frustration finding out the news this morning.

For the record, there's a "modify" link on the right side of your original post.  You can edit it if you like. 

brewcity77

Based on what Andy Katz wrote this morning, I'm guessing GPA is not the issue here:

1. Marquette is being quite transparent lately. The Golden Eagles didn't hesitate to suspend coach Buzz Williams for a Big East game for a violation committed by assistant Scott Monarch, who was subsequently fired. The latest from the Golden Eagles is this: Todd Mayo has rendered himself academically ineligible indefinitely. When asked what that means, a Marquette official said just what it says. Mayo did this to himself. Marquette isn't afraid now to call out who is at fault. There are no excuses at Marquette.

It's a NCAA violation, so it is either GPA or dropping below 12 credits. The wording "Mayo did this to himself" indicates it was an action Todd himself took. As tests and grades can be somewhat subjective, I feel pretty confident that he dropped a class that took him below the NCAA-required 12 credits. If he was in line to get a D or worse in a class, it would be a lot harder to ever play again at Marquette than to be suspended for a semester. The good news would be that if he keeps himself in good academic standing and can keep up 12 credits next semester, he should be able to play during the Big East portion of the schedule.

Think back to Todd's recent FaceBook comment that had so many people buzzing: "It will be a major set back for a major come back. MY DESTINY CAN BE DELAYED BUT NOT DENIED. Back to the basic". He just updated his profile picture to one of him in a Marquette uniform. I sincerely hope and believe he will put his nose to the grindstone to get back out there. It's time to support him.

FWIW -- Excellent posts in here from Ners, Dr. Blackheart, and some others. For people like sellit07, honkytonk, and anyone else deciding to use this as a chance to dump on Todd...well, as Buzz says, "[Character] is typically revealed when things are hard, when things are tough." Well, your character was just revealed.

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