Marquette fires Scott Monarch. Suspends HC Buzz Williams for one League game

[real chili 83]

Larry, we get that you feel that you need to play the heavy.  Yes, monarch should have been let go.  Beyond that, based on what's public, the rest is overkill, and you are grandstanding.

How would you have dealt with the crap your alma mater spewed with their football team's issues?   Just like the curent administration at ND?

[mu_hilltopper]

I'll go with .. Buzz and LW are fine.  Buzz isn't crying about missing the Colgate or SE Louisiana game.  LW said, hey, we need to show the NCAA we're tough on crime, how about you're "suspended" a game?  Buzz says sure.

[Bocephys]

"By the way, Buzz Williams getting a suspension from his school b/c an assistant lied is the type of thing that makes men look at other jobs."
‏@GaryParrishCBS

Does anyone believe both Buzz and LW will be at MU 2 years from now? Or 1? OTOH, they did have a moment golfing together this summer, so I'm sure they are still BFFs.

I'm sure madtown and Lab will be here any minute to defend Larry.

[Bocephys]

I'll go with .. Buzz and LW are fine.  Buzz isn't crying about missing the Colgate or SE Louisiana game.  LW said, hey, we need to show the NCAA we're tough on crime, how about you're "suspended" a game?  Buzz says sure.

Pretty sure he's out a Big East game.

[Rubie Q]

Larry better have his Top 5 list ready to go.

I think we're probably at the point where everybody -- Buzz, Larry, the BOT -- is ready for Buzz to move on. And it might be for the best for everyone involved.

[madtownwarrior]

well, I been here for a bit on this thread.  My thoughts - must be more to the story than a free tshirt, ride home and lying from Monarch.   The carefully worded PR from Buzz would make me think he's not here for the long haul if the right job comes open (not the suck crap job at SMU)...

I'm sure madtown and Lab will be here any minute to defend Larry.

[GGGG]

I'm sure madtown and Lab will be here any minute to defend Larry.

I think Buzz should have gotten more....but maybe that's just me.

[Aughnanure]

I think we're probably at the point where everybody -- Buzz, Larry, the BOT -- is ready for Buzz to move on. And it might be for the best for everyone involved.

Disagree. These are adults and they should be able to get over it. But I'm getting worried we will have to find a new coach soon. Larry can't f*** that hire up.

[Aughnanure]

I think Buzz should have gotten more....but maybe that's just me.

Is that based on knowing more about the issue? Or do we all know the same basic details?

[GGGG]

Is that based on knowing more about the issue? Or do we all know the same basic details?

That is based on the details we know....I know nothing more.

[Benny B]

I'll go with .. Buzz and LW are fine.  Buzz isn't crying about missing the Colgate or SE Louisiana game.  LW said, hey, we need to show the NCAA we're tough on crime, how about you're "suspended" a game?  Buzz says sure.

This is the bandwagon I'm riding.  

[real chili 83]

Disagree. These are adults and they should be able to get over it. But I'm getting worried we will have to find a new coach soon. Larry can't f*** that hire up.

Oh yes he can.  

All he has shown is ability to assert his weight.  He has not shown his ability to lead.  Based on what is public so far, this is effed up.  

I maintain, Buzz should have been on point with HIS decision to terminate.  Anything less....it falls on LW's shoulders as poor leadership.

[Tugg Speedman]

Why would Buzz leave over this?  Does he expect his employer to willingly cover up NCAA violations?

[Bocephys]

That is based on the details we know....I know nothing more.

Are you assuming Buzz was part of the cover up? 

[The Process]

Maybe Buzz and Larry are fine, maybe they're not.  Maybe there's more to this than what we've been told, maybe there isn't.

Can't we just have a beer summit instead of jumping to conclusions, good/bad/whatever, just yet?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/xRxqY4wuTHw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/xRxqY4wuTHw</a>

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Gary Parrish‏@GaryParrishCBS

"How many other coaches with back-to-back Sweet Sixteens you think would get a suspension from his own school for this? Zero, I'd bet."



 

[Dawson Rental]

Oh yes he can.  

All he has shown is ability to assert his weight.  He has not shown his ability to lead.  Based on what is public so far, this is effed up.  

I maintain, Buzz should have been on point with HIS decision to terminate.  Anything less....it falls on LW's shoulders as poor leadership.

I thought the wording at the beginning of the ESPN article was somewhat telling.
"Marquette coach Buzz Williams announced the dismissal of assistant Scott Monarch on Friday,"

LW did not have to allow Buzz to make that announcement, especially when Buzz himself is facing a suspension.  So, I'm thinking that that was a smart move on LW's part to avoid having more suspicion fall upon Buzz. Class move.

[96warrior]

Gary Parrish‏@GaryParrishCBS

"How many other coaches with back-to-back Sweet Sixteens you think would get a suspension from his own school for this? Zero, I'd bet."



 

Sounds like Parrish was trying to stoke the fire against LW but in my opinion, it reiterates LW's point that MU operates at a higher standard.

[real chili 83]

Murs, I respectfully disagree.  This should have been Buzz's decision.  Period.  There is no other way to spin this.

[bamamarquettefan]

Why would Buzz leave over this?  Does he expect his employer to willingly cover up NCAA violations?

Agree - it's not like there is the kind of animosity there was between al McGuire and his Jesuit bosses at MU when they would let him break his contract to take the bucks job, right?

Imagine the strands MUScoop would have had then on how much Al wanted out.

[The Process]

Sounds like Parrish was trying to stoke the fire against LW but in my opinion, it reiterates LW's point that MU operates at a higher standard.

Honestly, Parrish is almost as dumb as Skip Bayless.  I've lost what little respect I had for Parrish over the past couple years.

Murs, I respectfully disagree.  This should have been Buzz's decision.  Period.  There is no other way to spin this.

Is it clear that Buzz didn't have a spot at the table when this decision was made?  Am I missing something here...?

[madtownwarrior]

'“When I was allowed to review the report earlier this week

what's wrong with that statement?  allowed?

[Otule's Glass Eye]

Sounds like Parrish was trying to stoke the fire against LW but in my opinion, it reiterates LW's point that MU operates at a higher standard.

I'm just worried that if LW chases Buzz away then hires his own nobody guy and he turns out to be a bad coach this team will be sent into dark ages.

[real chili 83]

Capt., the spin on this is that "Buzz Williams announces".  There is nothing stated that says that "Buzz decided".

I assume that the PR staff did not miss out on this important distinction.  If they did, and this truly was Buzz's decision, them I stand corrected.

[The Process]

Capt., the spin on this is that "Buzz Williams announces".  There is nothing stated that says that "Buzz decided".

I assume that the PR staff did not miss out on this important distinction.  If they did, and this truly was Buzz's decision, them I stand corrected.

And that's the missing piece here.  I don't know if we'll know the answer to that anytime soon, though.