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[Pakuni]

Gets old debating 1 on 5...agree to disagree.....all was not well between Buzz and Larry after WVU.  But obviously there's no convincing some of you who choose to say because Buzz is still here, has a good recruiting class coming in, and that we brought in 1 strong assistant coach and director of basketball operations - that all is well.  Certainly don't know what things were agreed to as Buzz's flirtation with SMU took place.  A poker game of sorts.

The Buzz-Larry relationship was so toxic at that point that when the final buzzer sounded on that game, Buzz immediately sought out Larry and they enthusiastically slapped several fives.

[NersEllenson]

If he's still *THAT* pissed, and he feels the relationship is unworkable, I expect he would have taken a new job. There were plenty of them available this spring.

If it were OU, Arkansas or A&M, like the previous year...Buzz was gone....this was SMU...SMU...and they were given serious consideration.  Hopefully things are on the mend and that over the next year the relationship improves - which of course, relationships can improve - after a shaky start.

[Rubie Q]

If it were OU, Arkansas or A&M, like the previous year...Buzz was gone....this was SMU...SMU...and they were given serious consideration.  Hopefully things are on the mend and that over the next year the relationship improves - which of course, relationships can improve - after a shaky start.

SMU wasn't the only school that had a job opening. What about LSU, Va Tech, Illinois?

[NersEllenson]

The Buzz-Larry relationship was so toxic at that point that when the final buzzer sounded on that game, Buzz immediately sought out Larry and they enthusiastically slapped several fives.

Uh oh..now we are coming to conclusions based on people slapping fives...which has been ridiculed on this board before.  Just like those who felt Vander Blue ignoring his teammate repeatedly was no big deal, can we really read that much into guys slapping fives?  Perhaps a little pent up emotion...after Buzz had to suspend 4 of his guys for that game.  Any idea who ordered those suspensions?  Find it at all odd that not 1 time in Buzz's first 3 years as coach did he suspend a player (other than permanently benching Hazel for his transgression)- yet ironically in year 4 when the new regime arrives....we have multiple suspensions?

And sorry Pakuni...Mr. Nitpick detail guy - was referring to the aftermath of the WVU game...notably the dance..which LW felt necessary to comment in in JS as Buzz being "happy as a clam" to dance across the court...

[Pakuni]

If it were OU, Arkansas or A&M, like the previous year...Buzz was gone....this was SMU...SMU...and they were given serious consideration.  Hopefully things are on the mend and that over the next year the relationship improves - which of course, relationships can improve - after a shaky start.

Did Buzz email you this as well?
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

[Pakuni]

SMU wasn't the only school that had a job opening. What about LSU, Va Tech, Illinois?

And Kansas State, South Carolina and Mississippi State.
Plus, let's not forget the colors of Buzz's garage. That job was open also.

[NersEllenson]

None of the schools mentioned have any family ties for Buzz and family...Buzz has 5 years and ties now in MKE - there are ties in Oklahoma, Arkansas, and A&M.

[GGGG]

None of the schools mentioned have any family ties for Buzz and family...Buzz has 5 years and ties now in MKE - there are ties in Oklahoma, Arkansas, and A&M.

What ties does he have in Arkansas or Oklahoma?

[Bocephys]

What ties does he have in Arkansas or Oklahoma?

Isn't his wife from Oklahoma?

[Pakuni]

Isn't his wife from Oklahoma?

No. She's from Texas.

[Goose]

With the level of talent locally his ties should be in Milwaukee for next five years or so.

[NersEllenson]

No. She's from Texas.

From Amarillo..but family ties in OKC

[GGGG]

OK...so let me get this straight.  Buzz would have gone to Oklahoma (because his wife has family ties there) and he would have gone to Arkansas (apparently because it borders both Texas and Oklahoma) but he was too happy to leave Milwaukee.  But this year he WOULD have taken those jobs, but just not jobs in Kansas or Mississippi because those are apparently too far away from Oklahoma or Texas.  (Even though Manhattan, KS is only 70 miles further away from OKC than Fayetteville, AR is.)

So does this "Buzz Happiness/Mileage Graph-O-Meter" exist anywhere besides your head?

[CBB]

I would like to say I have enjoyed this thread immensely.  Ners should change his name to grave digger.  He'll be in China soon.  LOL.

[NersEllenson]

OK...so let me get this straight.  Buzz would have gone to Oklahoma (because his wife has family ties there) and he would have gone to Arkansas (apparently because it borders both Texas and Oklahoma) but he was too happy to leave Milwaukee.  But this year he WOULD have taken those jobs, but just not jobs in Kansas or Mississippi because those are apparently too far away from Oklahoma or Texas.  (Even though Manhattan, KS is only 70 miles further away from OKC than Fayetteville, AR is.)

So does this "Buzz Happiness/Mileage Graph-O-Meter" exist anywhere besides your head?

Uhh..do you know where Buzz went to college?  In OKC, right?  Would it be so odd for an MU alum to leave MKE and decide to return...to essentially coach the biggest program in the state?  K-State and Mississippi aren't exactly on par with Arkansas - ever heard of Sam Walton and the Walton family?? 

[GGGG]

Uhh..do you know where Buzz went to college?  In OKC, right?  Would it be so odd for an MU alum to leave MKE and decide to return...to essentially coach the biggest program in the state?  K-State and Mississippi aren't exactly on par with Arkansas - ever heard of Sam Walton and the Walton family?? 

Ever hear of "confirmation bias?"

[79Warrior]

Uhh..do you know where Buzz went to college?  In OKC, right?  Would it be so odd for an MU alum to leave MKE and decide to return...to essentially coach the biggest program in the state?  K-State and Mississippi aren't exactly on par with Arkansas - ever heard of Sam Walton and the Walton family?? 

Here is what will make Buzz eventually leave, the Milwaukee winters.

[Pakuni]

Uhh..do you know where Buzz went to college?  In OKC, right?  Would it be so odd for an MU alum to leave MKE and decide to return...to essentially coach the biggest program in the state?  K-State and Mississippi aren't exactly on par with Arkansas - ever heard of Sam Walton and the Walton family?? 

So, Buzz's tie to the University of Arkansas is that he shops at Wal-Mart?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

So, Buzz's tie to the University of Arkansas is that he shops at Wal-Mart?

buzz is more of a big lots kinda cat. 

[MerrittsMustache]

Here is what will make Buzz eventually leave, the Milwaukee winters.

God went to Notre Dame (at least according to ND fans/alums) so it will be LW using his connections with this fellow ND alum to make sure Milwaukee has some harsh winters the next few years to drive Buzz away.

Hey, it makes as much sense as some of what Ners is spewing, doesn't it?

[Lennys Tap]

I would like to say I have enjoyed this thread immensely.  Ners should change his name to grave digger.  He'll be in China soon.  LOL.

How's tricks on Elba?

[Hoopaloop]

Uhh..do you know where Buzz went to college?  In OKC, right?  Would it be so odd for an MU alum to leave MKE and decide to return...to essentially coach the biggest program in the state?  K-State and Mississippi aren't exactly on par with Arkansas - ever heard of Sam Walton and the Walton family?? 

Buzz strikes me as a basketball program guy, not a second fiddle guy at a football school.  If Buzz leaves, I have to think he goes to a dominant basketball program. 

[warriorchick]

Buzz strikes me as a basketball program guy, not a second fiddle guy at a football school.  If Buzz leaves, I have to think he goes to a dominant basketball program. 

I am only speaking theoretically here, because I don't think Buzz plans on going anywhere:

I am not sure that Buzz would care about being second-fiddle to football as long as the school gives the BB program everything he feels it needs (including money and fan support).  I don't think he has that kind of ego.

KO, on the other hand, did have that kind of ego, and I knew the minute he announced he was going to Tennessee that he would not be happy there.

Also, don't forget that being from Texas, he completely understands football-mad people.  The high schools sell PSLs down there, for chrissake.  As a kid, he was probably a huge football fan himself.  You don't grow up in Texas with any sort of interest in sports and avoid that.

[Goose]

Buzz shops at Gucci and Armani these days. Only way he stops at Walmart is to use a bathroom in emergency.

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This thread is one of the more moderate exchanges here and by my count hit 5 maybe 6 of these