New BB Player housing arrangements

[warriorchick]

So, jsglow and I were on campus Sunday night for jsglow jr.'s orientation preview, and we went on the obligatory tour of campus.  All of the parents are broken up in groups, and it is customary to have a member of campus administration accompany each group.  Our person was an employee of the Office of Residence Life whose name I will withhold for now.

As we passed Hmphrey Hall, our student orientation leader mentioned that it was a residence hall for upper-class and graduate students. As we enjoy acting like know-it-alls to the uninitiated on campus,  jsglow added, "And also, the men's basketball team."  The ORL mucketymuck responded with, "Not the freshman and sophomores any more."

because the muckymuck stated this in a manner that suggested it was not yet public knowledge, we did not ply this person for further details.  But that's what we know so far.

Let the speculation commence.

*Edited to correct brain fart when naming  hall*

[MUfan12]

Freshman and Sophomores are going to be in Tower.

A huge overreaction, IMO.

[Clam Crowder]

Well unless the basketball players planned on sleeping with teachers over there in Coughlin Hall in the center of our campus I would assume they wouldn't live there...I am also nearly 100% sure that the freshman and sophomore basketball players live there. If they don't then I am sure they have some pretty nice place set up for them.

There is no speculation necessary. Our basketball players are treated well if they are no longer in Humphrey which is pretty far from Coughlin I am sure they have a nice new place to live. This post is pretty pointless IMO.

[warriorchick]

 Interesting that Tower was chosen.  I thought they might have two guys share an Abbottsford triple.

Perhaps they are putting them on the Engineering study floor.

And oops, I meant Humphrey.  I will correct.

[Clam Crowder]

I think that the basketball players should be kept separate from the majority of underclassmen. They are essentially celebrities on campus, God knows what could happen in that situation. Just being honest.

[GGGG]

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I think the collective overreacted to this earlier.

[Zombie45]

They will be housed in Carpenter Tower from here on out. Frosh from last year will not be moved over. Juniors and Seniors will be in Humphrey.

This is a smart idea. Almost ever major program around the country puts its players in the same resident halls as every other student. One thing MU has working against it is that students here are required to live in halls for 2 years where some colleges allow only one year.

Jhags15: I have to disagree with you. Making special housing arrangements can create extra feelings of separation from the rest of campus and puts them more in a spotlight. I am certain their rooms will be more than acceptable and that their neighbors won't be constantly hounding them for attention

[MUfan12]

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I think the collective overreacted to this earlier.

Disagree. The alleged assaults and night club situation had nothing to do with where the players live. That could have happened anywhere. Hell, a couple of the players cited at 720 were at a club on North Ave. on Saturday. Doubt Humphrey Hall caused that.

So essentially, they are adding another objection for the staff to overcome when recruiting. Instead of the spacious two bedroom apartments they used to recruit to, now they have to put kids in a cramped, 90 year old dorm with no AC.

Might not seem like a big deal, but when you look at the digs that the schools MU is recruiting against have, it certainly doesn't help.

[Rubie Q]

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I think the collective overreacted to this earlier.

Right across the street from the Al, that much closer to the gym, academic support offices, etc. Makes a lot of sense, actually.

[4everwarriors]

Why don't they just add livin' quarters to the Al. Surprised Crean didn't think of this since he's the reason for da season.

[T-Bone]

Isn't Cobeen closer to the Al?

[Clam Crowder]

Isn't Cobeen closer to the Al?

Let's put the men's basketball players in Cobeen, what more could they ask for?

Carpenter is not the best option IMO, sure it is closer but it is not very nice and as mentioned has no AC. Why not Straz Tower? AC and big rooms with a recreation center, and barber. Would be good to put the players in one of if not our nicest dorm.

[JWags85]

This is a smart idea. Almost ever major program around the country puts its players in the same resident halls as every other student. One thing MU has working against it is that students here are required to live in halls for 2 years where some colleges allow only one year.

False.  Look at Kentucky for one.  I guarantee many others have similar situations.

[MUfan12]

False.  Look at Kentucky for one.  I guarantee many others have similar situations.

Thank you. One of the few major holdouts is....


... Notre Dame. Anyone shocked by this?

[Clam Crowder]

If I were to look at one event so far this summer that indicates any less of a commitment to our basketball program I would have to look at this. It is an interesting move and somewhat surprising. Pilarz lives with the students, and wants more community on campus...maybe that is all there is to this. Allowing the freshman and sophomore players to be closer is a pretty cool idea, but I don't think Carpenter is the right place.

[GGGG]

Mufan12. I really don't think it is tied to the alleged incidents from the year before last. I also don't think it is that big of a deal recruiting wise. Hardly anything to worry about.

[Pakuni]

Thank you. One of the few major holdouts is....


... Notre Dame. Anyone shocked by this?

"All first-year UCLA student-athletes live on campus in the residence halls. The
number is still over 50% in year two."

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ucla/genrel/auto_pdf/SAH_Section3.pdf

Explains UCLA's recruiting woes this year.
Oh, wait ....

USC freshmen also live in regular dorms. No wonder Pete Carroll couldn't land any players.

http://sportsbybrooks.com/usc-football-frosh-to-live-in-the-dorms-like-regular-kids-11822

Should I look for more examples?

[MUfan12]

Mufan12. I really don't think it is tied to the alleged incidents from the year before last. I also don't think it is that big of a deal recruiting wise. Hardly anything to worry about.

I lived in Tower for two years. It was cramped for two average white dudes. Look at what UW has planned for their athletes. Tell me that's not an advantage.

[Rubie Q]

Mufan12. I really don't think it is tied to the alleged incidents from the year before last. I also don't think it is that big of a deal recruiting wise. Hardly anything to worry about.

Agreed. I can't recall any recruit, ever, mentioning Humphrey as an important factor in his decision to commit to MU. The coaches, the support staff, the Bradley Center, the Al -- yes. But not Humphrey.

[martyconlonontherun]

I thought players there was some reason players had to stay in the dorms as underclassmen and that MU was bending the rules by considering it a residence hall even though it was a campus apartment. That was atleast what I understood on campus any truth to that? Maybe MU just wants them in an actual dorm to be on the safe side?  

[MUfan12]

Agreed. I can't recall any recruit, ever, mentioning Humphrey as an important factor in his decision to commit to MU. The coaches, the support staff, the Bradley Center, the Al -- yes. But not Humphrey.

That's fair. I guess my thinking is that it's tough enough to recruit to MU as it is, especially at the level Buzz seems to be shooting for. I just don't want it to be any more difficult.

[RJax55]

I lived in Tower for two years. It was cramped for two average white dudes. Look at what UW has planned for their athletes. Tell me that's not an advantage.

Who's to say that MU is not throwing some cash into those rooms for improvements over the summer?

[chapman]

That's fair. I guess my thinking is that it's tough enough to recruit to MU as it is, especially at the level Buzz seems to be shooting for. I just don't want it to be any more difficult.

Agree.  We spend more than 340 schools, no reason we can't give better living conditions than nearly as many.  When you factor in living in Milwaukee in the winter, the rooms themselves might need to be even nicer.  Straz or Abbotsford seem fine, can't see anyone not liking that...would at least think we could do them better than Crapenter.  

[🏀]

I have to echo MUFan12 on this.

Other than location to the Al and the majority of buildings they have classes in, Carpenter is a terrible, terrible idea. The rooms are generally small except for a few on the Engineering floors that are larger. They at least have their own bathrooms, but very small.

I haven't been in Abbotsford or McCabe, but I've heard they are very nice. Carpenter is probably the second worst dorm after McCormick. At least Schroeder has it's own dining hall.

[Silkk the Shaka]

That's fair. I guess my thinking is that it's tough enough to recruit to MU as it is, especially at the level Buzz seems to be shooting for. I just don't want it to be any more difficult.

Same here.  Not a major deal, but why make it even 0.1% more of a recruiting challenge?  I guess I just don't see the upside of this move, so why do it at all?