*Breaking* DJ is coming back!!!

[Coobeys Oil Depot]

I am also announcing I am no longer a candidate for the NBA draft. The difference is I'm a better shooter than James. 

where's the ignore button

Thanks for ignoring my post by responding to it. NukeEm, too.

Just what you wanted, I'm sure.

[Pakuni]

I think the majority of fans are glad that he's back, but we are all concerned because of DJs actions.

First, he looked like a shell of himself last season from the Duke game on (honors not withstanding). Second, it seemed like he was doing everything he could to give himself an out at MU and he's still coming back. Lastly, his jump shots were just terrible last year.

While I won't dispute that DJ didn't play up to expectations last year, this is yet another example of of how unreasonably hyper-critical fans are of him around here.
A shell from the Duke game on?
How about him single-handedly winning the game at Valpo?
How about him winning the game at Pitt last year, which ended up as MU's biggest win of the season?
How about the huge performance (21 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals) in the nationally televised win over West Virginia?
How about 10 assists to 1 turnover in the other nationally televised win over Pitt (allowing MU to become the only Big East team to score 70 points on Pitt last year). With McNeal out that game, DJ's defense helped hold Pitt's guards to 7-for-34 shooting that night.

Sheesh, some of you guys are too much. DJ is the best player on the team and Marquette will be much better in 2007-08 because he is returning. Anyone fence-sitting over this is a fool.

[Harrison]

Great post Pakuni.

Some of the posts on this boards would be laughable if they were not truly sad.  "we will be better if Dj decides to help the team and not auditon". 
One of the best or saddest depending on how you look at it isOZMetal's classic..."next year if he comes back no one will recognize DJ...and will say he sucks"...yet now he is happy that he is returning?! qualified only is he plays the way Ozmetal thinks he should. 
Give me a break you clowns.  DJ is the best or second best player on the team.  You can arguae about who is the best all you want.  Bototm line is crean gets fired if he does not win...and winnign got alot harder joining the BE.  Crean is smart enough that if DJ hurt the team more than he helped it he would not play.   MAybe NIv and OZ should put together there thoughts and sit DJ and Crean down so DJ can actaully help Mu not hurt them....well at least since the Duke game when DJ went to the dark side. 
OZ I have said on numerous occasions you are either ignorant or a plain $%#@* , I am starting to lean away from ignorant

[ozmetal71]

I never said that next year if he comes back that no one will recognize him and that he will suck.  That was 77ncaachamps.

Get your facts right before you start calling people ignorant.  Man, you are tiresome.

I love how you single me out when I am one of scores of people on both boards who criticized DJ's play in the second half, and also criticized his entering the draft.  People have said a lot worse about DJ than I have, yet, you like to attack me personally and toss the insults around.

I don't know what I did to piss in your Cheerio's, but man you are sad.  But, I guess personally attacking me through the safety of an internet message board makes you feel like a big man.

Get a grip, and a life.  People differ with you on DJ.  Don't throw around insults and quotes that are incorrect. 

I think DJ is the second-best player on the team.  I think that he was bad in the second half of the season.  You disagree, fine. 

Whatever your hard-on is for insulting me and singling my posts out, fine.  You are not the God of basketball knowledge.

Why don't you attack PRN for his crack about that he can shoot better than James? 

I'm not playing your game any more.  You are a perfect example of why the ignore button is needed.

[muwarrior87]

First of all, I'd like to start by saying, let's not be Madison here w/ our bashing of fellow posters.  We almost all have differing viewpoints about how DJ played last year. While he did have some very bright moments during the conference season, he also shot a dismal percent from the field. His defensive numbers, assists/turnover % was better but he did shoot terrible very often.  So in a sense, almost everyone is at least a little right and you're also a little wrong.  This is why we DISCUSS. We all see the game a little differently and I for one am very happy he is back. His defense and vision on the court is a great thing for MU to have but he also needs to work on his shooting and his shot selection to be as good as I think he can be.  That being said, I'm definitely looking forward to next season and think we have a really good chance to battle G-Town for the top spot in conference.

[Big Papi]

I think the concerns people have about DJ worrying about DJ first, and the team second are valid. We won't know until December. So expect to see a lot of fence-sitting regarding DJ.

I personally don't have any concerns over DJ worrying about DJ first.  It sounds like the knock on DJ from the NBA evaluators is that he needs to improve his PG skills.  That in and of its self means that he needs to think about the team first and run the team the way it should be run.  In other words, play more like Nash (team concept) and less like Marbury (stat stuffer).  

[muwarrior87]

I think the concerns people have about DJ worrying about DJ first, and the team second are valid. We won't know until December. So expect to see a lot of fence-sitting regarding DJ.

I personally don't have any concerns over DJ worrying about DJ first.  It sounds like the knock on DJ from the NBA evaluators is that he needs to improve his PG skills.  That in and of its self means that he needs to think about the team first and run the team the way it should be run.  In other words, play more like Nash (team concept) and less like Marbury (stat stuffer).  

That's what I told one of my coworkers earlier today.  If his shot gets better and more consistant, he plays like a lesser version of Nash.  His athleticism and passing is very good and if the decision making, shot, and leadership start showing through, there ya go.

[Niv Berkowitz]

I think the concerns people have about DJ worrying about DJ first, and the team second are valid. We won't know until December. So expect to see a lot of fence-sitting regarding DJ.

I personally don't have any concerns over DJ worrying about DJ first.  It sounds like the knock on DJ from the NBA evaluators is that he needs to improve his PG skills.  That in and of its self means that he needs to think about the team first and run the team the way it should be run.  In other words, play more like Nash (team concept) and less like Marbury (stat stuffer).  

I should have pre-faced that by saying if he's worrying about himself from a shooting perspective. That was my bad. Yes, if he improves as a true PG - which I think most people on this site would agree with if they calmed down just a minute - he'll make MU a better team. EVERYONE here wants that.

But when he's made it obvious that his dream is to be in the NBA, it's only human nature to press too hard on the things that you need to work on in the context of a game. For god's sakes guys, James admitted this himself (see Rosiak's blog today). I don't think it's out of any MU fans realm to at least be a little concerned about what attitude James brings to the court. Yeah, I think he's the second best player on the team, hands down. Again, the purpose of this site is speculation and differing opinions.

I can't say for sure what he'll do. But I do know that in the last nine games of the year last season, James shot 30% from the field and 20% from beyond the arc. He needs to limit his shots or improve his selection and go north-south more than east-west so he can get to the line. If saying that makes me a "bad fan", so be it.

And since I've now been mentioned, along with Oz, in Harrison's well-versed diatribe, I'll comment quickly.

Of course there were games James played well in from the Duke game forward. But commentators, broadcasters, bloggers, and sportswriters who cover this team have all agreed on one thing - from the Duke game on, James didn't seem like himself. Why that is is a matter of pure speculation is beyond me.

That doesn't take away from the fact that James is the second best player on the team and he should help them without a doubt.   

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I never said that next year if he comes back that no one will recognize him and that he will suck.  That was 77ncaachamps.

Get your facts right before you start calling people ignorant.  Man, you are tiresome.

I love how you single me out when I am one of scores of people on both boards who criticized DJ's play in the second half, and also criticized his entering the draft.  People have said a lot worse about DJ than I have, yet, you like to attack me personally and toss the insults around.

I don't know what I did to piss in your Cheerio's, but man you are sad.  But, I guess personally attacking me through the safety of an internet message board makes you feel like a big man.

Get a grip, and a life.  People differ with you on DJ.  Don't throw around insults and quotes that are incorrect. 

I think DJ is the second-best player on the team.  I think that he was bad in the second half of the season.  You disagree, fine. 

Whatever your hard-on is for insulting me and singling my posts out, fine.  You are not the God of basketball knowledge.

Why don't you attack PRN for his crack about that he can shoot better than James? 

I'm not playing your game any more.  You are a perfect example of why the ignore button is needed.

Don't worry about Harry yet, OZ.  You'll know when he really goes cuckoo on you.  Then he'll earn himself another vacation.

[rocky_warrior]

Then he'll earn himself another vacation.

Ahhh yes, the coveted MUScoop all-inclusive vacation package.  Funded by our new fee system 

[Harrison]

I guess I recalled it as OZ considering so many of his posts have  some sort of qualifier towards me.  It just gets old when a certain group of people, led by Oz cannot appreciate a player for waht he is.  That they would welcome him back if he can do this or if he does that.  Well it does not work that way, Mu is either better with or without a player and Mu is exponentially better with DJ.
A player has NBA aspirations and then everything he does is hyper scrutinized as him being a selfish person, etc, etc.
It's sad.

[77ncaachamps]

I guess I recalled it as OZ considering so many of his posts have  some sort of qualifier towards me.  It just gets old when a certain group of people, led by Oz cannot appreciate a player for waht he is.  That they would welcome him back if he can do this or if he does that.  Well it does not work that way, Mu is either better with or without a player and Mu is exponentially better with DJ.
A player has NBA aspirations and then everything he does is hyper scrutinized as him being a selfish person, etc, etc.
It's sad.

I think DJ is a tremendous athlete, but last season, he wasn't half the player he was his freshman season. Name some athletes who declared for the draft, pulled out late, and impacted their team greatly (i.e., Elite Eight, Final Four).

IMHO, I'd rather struggle without DJ than with him. Jerel and Wes were probably preparing to take over the reins when...oops...who decides to come back? Acker was preparing to lead at the point after a year of watching when...oh darnit...he's back again. I think that DJ's decision will negatively impact the team.

But I hope DJ proves me wrong! 

[ozmetal71]

77ncaachamps,


  You and I are normally in agreement regarding DJ's play, but I have to disagree with you on the statement that DJ coming back will negatively impact the team.

  Just curious, how do you see DJ's return negatively impacting the team? Do you believe that Acker's development will be stunted, or that Cubes will pushed towards transferring?

  Provided that DJ works on the flaws in his game, which all indications point to him doing just that, he will help MU a lot next year.  He did regress this past year, but he is capable of dominating a game.  He will be helped by a better inside game and more consistent outside shooting from his teammates.

  I am giving DJ a clean slate now that he has pulled out of the draft and come back to reality.  I hope that he is more like the freshman DJ than last year's edition.

[Pakuni]

I think DJ is a tremendous athlete, but last season, he wasn't half the player he was his freshman season. Name some athletes who declared for the draft, pulled out late, and impacted their team greatly (i.e., Elite Eight, Final Four).

Jameer Nelson
Pops Mensah-Bonsu
Roger Powell
Nate Robinson
To name a few ...

The notion that James was a "shell of himself" or "not half the player he was" as a freshman is laughable. His shooting was down a whopping one made basket per game on average and his free throw percentage, though still poor for a guard, actually improved. His assist to turnover was about the same and his steal were up slightly while his rebounding was down slightly (the latter not all that important for a point guard).
The real difference for James between his freshman year and his sophomore year was that he was facing defenses designed to stop his penetration rather than those designed to curb Steve Novak's open looks. As a result, and through no fault of his own, getting to the hole became significantly more difficult. One can fairly argue that DJ did not adjust all that well to being the defensive focus of every opponent, but to argue that he somehow was - or will be - a negative force on the team is flat-out ridiculous. DJ wasn't so much a lesser player last year than opponents did a much better job of taking away his strengths.

Lastly, enough with the implications that DJ is somehow selfish because he seriously considered turning pro. News flash: Every single college player worth his salt wants to get paid. And the majority want to get paid sooner rather than later. That DJ weighed his options and explored his opportunities says NOTHING negative about his character.

[Big Papi]

I think DJ is a tremendous athlete, but last season, he wasn't half the player he was his freshman season. Name some athletes who declared for the draft, pulled out late, and impacted their team greatly (i.e., Elite Eight, Final Four).

The notion that James was a "shell of himself" or "not half the player he was" as a freshman is laughable. His shooting was down a whopping one made basket per game on average and his free throw percentage, though still poor for a guard, actually improved. His assist to turnover was about the same and his steal were up slightly while his rebounding was down slightly (the latter not all that important for a point guard).
The real difference for James between his freshman year and his sophomore year was that he was facing defenses designed to stop his penetration rather than those designed to curb Steve Novak's open looks. As a result, and through no fault of his own, getting to the hole became significantly more difficult. One can fairly argue that DJ did not adjust all that well to being the defensive focus of every opponent, but to argue that he somehow was - or will be - a negative force on the team is flat-out ridiculous. DJ wasn't so much a lesser player last year than opponents did a much better job of taking away his strengths.

Absolutely right on the mark.  During DJ's freshmen year we had Novak shooting lights out.  I will be the first to say that I was wrong last year when I said that Novak graduating was not going to make a difference.  I fully expected Fitz and Hayward to pick up the slack and than some.  I was wrong.  Novak leaving and no one stepping up from the perimeter made our offense unbearable to watch at times.  Especially with no inside game to speak of.  Everything was designed off of penetration and the dish but when no one was hitting from the outside teams changed up their defenses.

DJ is to blame on some of this as he was not able to do anything on offense as the shot clock was running down and he was forced to shot some ill advised shots.  But, TC and the rest of team was as much to blame.  Fitz needed to be more assertive, TC needed to change up the offensive flow some how, some way.  There is not one sole person at fault last year for some of the struggles but hey get this, we didn't lose that many games and we did make the NCAA tourny.  We must have done something right last year for all the troubles we had.  Finishing in the top half of the Big East will always be an accomplishment and a testiment that we have a fairly good team.  Let's not blast a guy who had some troubles last year but also played very well at other times.  Without him last year, we don't make the tourny.  And without him this year,we are not a top 15 team from the get go.