The Everlasting Craptastical Mystery Thread

[Jam Chowder]

Listen. IWB is stirring the pot. That's all. Shrug it off.

[Hoopaloop]

OK. MU sucks, but Buzz Williams should kiss the feet of the MU administrators for hiring him. The AD, President and BOT are wonderful and any disagreements are all Buzz's fault. And Buzz is a quitter. But you're a big fan of his. Right.

MU sucks?  No.

Buzz should kiss the feet of MU administration for hiring him?  No.

The AD, President and BOT have a university to run that includes athletics.  If they feel the Dean of Arts and Sciences is not the same page, they get the Dean on the same page.  If the Men’s basketball coach isn’t on the same page, they get the men’s basketball coach on the same page.  

Buzz is a quitter?  No.  However, if he were to quit this job that would certainly send a clear message to any other schools out there that it’s his way or he leaves.  That will limit his employment options.  Not a smart move in my opinion.  Maybe he doesn't care.

Yes, I am a huge fan of his.   I’m a huge Al McGuire fan, he tried to leave Marquette to coach the Milwaukee Bucks.  I disagreed with him.  That must mean I’m not a fan of Al McGuire for not seeing it Al’s way and siding with the university.  For you it seems all or nothing support.  Some of us have the capacity to work outside of such strict black and white views of the world.

Try again

[Goose]

I agree completely with big daddy that Buzz is not leaving. Think he is not correct on entire post, but agree completely that Buzz is staying.

[Golden Avalanche]

Iwb was one of Creans bitches... Close to Buzz ?  I havent seen it IWB is self serving and a non MU grad.   No trust there for me .... His tweet only further convinced me of that.

When I listen to the press conferences, Buzz and Ganzer seem to have a rapport.

[mr.MUskie]

Notice how once BigDaddy posted we haven't heard from the trolls, thanks BigDaddy they needed to leave

It's his nap time.

[Jam Chowder]

I wonder what youngphilly thinks about all this?

Yes.

[TheButlerDidIt]

long and deep in that area.

After reading nearly every post of this 82-paged thread, and experiencing every emotion a human is capable of emoting, this is all I remember. Thank you, Canadian Dimes.

[awilhelmscream]

I agree completely with big daddy that Buzz is not leaving. Think he is not correct on entire post, but agree completely that Buzz is staying.

Well, instead of giving out his info as innuendo he actually states it as it is.  I'm gonna trust BigDaddy on this one.

[Warriors10]

News people outside the Al.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!

[Hoopaloop]

As the author puts it, it's all about loyalty and trust for Buzz. He didn't get it at New Orleans and he left, even though some warned him it was professional suicide. He had it at MU. Not so much anymore, and unless Pilarz and L Williams can undo some of that damage he won't worry about taking a step back (SMU) again. It will be hard to leave his players, but if the powers that be force his hand...I worry.

And the author or you or anyone else here knows what Pilarz and Williams are doing?  This massive injustice and limitations they are putting on Buzz to be able to keep his program going is what exactly?  They are paying him $2.6 million, has the second largest recruiting budget in the conference, the second largest basketball budget in the United States of America.  Exactly what are these two Marquette Basketball Haters doing to prevent Buzz from being successful?

Can we have some tangible answers and not a bunch of innuendo?  They are squeezing his balls?  How?  By saying you better be a bit more careful in the type of kids you recruit?  Is this a bad thing?  Buzz is the head of the basketball program which is PART OF MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY.  The basketball program is not a stand alone unit with no one to answer to. They are not the Milwaukee Mustangs or the Milwaukee Wave.  They are part of Marquette University.  Buzz is an outstanding coach and Marquette basketball is an outstanding program that has been outstanding for many decades.  I doubt very seriously anything that Williams or Pilarz are asking for is going to tank the program or even send it backward.  A good coach will recruit good players and produce good results.  Some of you here make it sound like MU can only win with certain kinds of players that Buzz is supposedly now being denied access to (all of this pure speculation with no real attribution).  Why?  MU has won with misfits, with kids from the burbs, kids from the mean streets, and everything in between.

[TJ]

I think I am suffering from misinformation-overload.

[Oldgym]

We're gonna have quite the laugh or cry when this thread turns up in somebody's psych dissertation.

[Les Nessman]

I need another Depends. I just crapped myself.

[Skatastrophy]

News people outside the MUScoop Global HQ

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!

[StillAWarrior]

Who the hell was bashing JUCOs? What is this 1250 WSSP and Wisky simpletons who can't understand the important role junior college play in athletics?

That honestly pisses me off, my dad went to JUCO on a basketball scholarship. He had work and save up all two years just so he could pay to get to KState and graduate with a 4-year degree. No help from the family, JUCO was what got my father a degree.

I brought up JUCOs, and I wasn't bashing them.  I simply wondered if the Administration was making an issue about it since there was rumored to be issues between Buzz and the Administration.  I was speculating/guessing/making crap up what they could be disagreeing about and that came to mind as something because I think Buzz would be very loyal to his JUCOs.

As the person who brought it up (and actually expected it to piss some people off that I even mentioned it) I don't think the JUCOs have been a problem.  I said many pages ago that I think Jimmy is one of the greatest kids to ever wear the Marquette uniform.  And Jae is one of my all-time favorite Warriors.

Wondering out loud whether the issue between Buzz and the Administration might be related to recruiting JUCOs is not the same as bashing JUCOs.

[Marquette_g]

Is Tom Enlund even remotely aware that SMU rumors exist?  With most of them being transmitted via the Internet and social media he is still waiting for some flunky to drop a news bulletin on his desk or for something to hit the wires.

[Warriors10]

News people outside the MUScoop Global HQ

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!

Means we will be featured on CBS News at Ten again.

[Les Nessman]

I need another Depends. I just crapped myself.

No, I'm not joking. I really did. Someone get me another man-diaper.

[ort5210]

We're gonna have quite the laugh or cry when this thread turns up in somebody's psych dissertation.

HAHA i was thinking about sending the link of this forum to a friend thats in grad school to get his thoughts!

[Hoopaloop]

I am going to write this one email and that is it.


3) Fr. P and Larry Williams know what Buzz means to MU and support him.
4) Fr. P, LW, BOT and Buzz all agree on the standards that are expected from all MU athletes. Buzz's standards are not any different than they have been.

Wait, you mean all the ball squeezing innuendo, all the injustices that L. Williams and Pilarz were forcing on Buzz was inaccurate?  YOU DON'T SAY  

Some of the stupidest comments I have ever read here were things like the AD and President are trying to deemphasize athletics, gut them, push Buzz out, etc, etc.  Ridiculous then and continue to be ridiculous now.

[mr.MUskie]

Means we will be featured on CBS News at Ten again.

One of the players was caught at Bed Bath & Beyond and the press doesn't think that's a manly enough place for him.

[BrewCity83]

Several of the under-21 players were seen shopping at Victoria's Secret at the mall...

[IAmMarquette]

Bump.

Post of the year.

[Lighthouse 84]

Post of the year.

I'm just wondering why it took him 2 minutes to bump the thread

[Aughnanure]

I brought up JUCOs, and I wasn't bashing them.  I simply wondered if the Administration was making an issue about it since there was rumored to be issues between Buzz and the Administration.  I was speculating/guessing/making crap up what they could be disagreeing about and that came to mind as something because I think Buzz would be very loyal to his JUCOs.

As the person who brought it up (and actually expected it to piss some people off that I even mentioned it) I don't think the JUCOs have been a problem.  I said many pages ago that I think Jimmy is one of the greatest kids to ever wear the Marquette uniform.  And Jae is one of my all-time favorite Warriors.

Wondering out loud whether the issue between Buzz and the Administration might be related to recruiting JUCOs is not the same as bashing JUCOs.

Ok, gotcha. I was responding to BigDaddy's response that some on here were bashing JUCOs suddenly (like we haven't had enough reasons the past 3 years to value JUCOs).