The Everlasting Craptastical Mystery Thread

[Dr. Blackheart]

Marquette can admit JUCOs all they want.  Doesn't mean the head coach is required to take JUCOs.

So MU will have two admittance policies around JUCO's?  If you are a JUCO applying to the College of Communications and you qualify academically but DON"T play basketball, you are in.  If you are the same but PLAY basketball, you are out. I want a piece of that lawsuit settlement action.

[hairy worthen]

Whether you think he's Chicos or not, I find it hard to disagree with anything in that post.

Except that there is no reason to post it, (I am pretty sure most people understand that), other than to rile up other posters just like his buddy was so exceptional at doing.

[DomJamesToTheBasket]

I find a contract worth 6 M or anywhere near that hard to believe.  Even at 4 M,  he would probably be making more than the average NBA coach.

http://weaksideawareness.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/salary-and-contracts-of-nba-coaches/
Team   Season   Coach   Year / Length   Avg M$
per year   Link to
Atlanta   2011-12   Larry Drew   2 / 2   1,3   Source
Boston   2011-12   Doc Rivers   1 / 5   7   Source
Charlotte   2011-12   Paul Silas   1 / 1   ???   -
Chicago   2011-12   Tom Thibodeau   2 / 2   2   Source
Cleveland   2011-12   Byron Scott   2 / 4   4,5   Source
Dallas   2011-12   Rick Carlisle   4 / 4   4,375   Source
Denver   2011-12   George Karl   1 / 3   ???   -
Detroit   2011-12   Lawrence Frank   1 / 3   ???   -
Golden State   2011-12   Marc Jackson   1 / 3   2   Source
Houston   2011-12   Kevin McHale   1 / 3   ???   -
Indiana   2011-12   Frank Vogel   1 / 3   ???   -
LA Clippers   2011-12   Vinny Del Negro   2 / 3   ???   -
LA Lakers   2011-12   Mike Brown   1 / 4   4,5625   Source
Memphis   2011-12   Lionel Hollins   3 / 3   2   Source
Miami   2011-12   Erik Spoelstra   1 / 1   ???   -
Milwaukee   2011-12   Scott Skiles   4 / 4   ???   -
Minnesota   2011-12   Rick Adelman   1 / 4   5   Source
New Jersey   2011-12   Avery Johnson   2 / 3   4   Source
New Orleans   2011-12   Monty Williams   2 / 3   1   Source
New York   2011-12   Mike D'Antoni   4 / 4   6   Source
Oklahoma City   2011-12   Scott Brooks   3 / 3   1,5   Source
Orlando   2011-12   Stan Van Gundy   1 / 2   4,25   Source
Philadelphia   2011-12   Doug Collins   2 / 4   ???   -
Phoenix   2011-12   Alvin Gentry   1 / 1   2,15   Source
Portland   2011-12   Nate McMillan   1 / 2   ???   -
Sacramento   2011-12   Paul Westphal   1 / 1   2   Source
San Antonio   2011-12   Gregg Popovich   4 / 4   6   Source
Toronto   2011-12   Dwane Casey   1 / 2   3   Source
Utah   2011-12   Tyrone Corbin   1 / 2   ???   -
Washington   2011-12   Flip Saunders   3 / 4   4,5   Source
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[MUBrooklyn]

For what it's worth, Seth Davis tweeted, minutes ago, that he would be shocked if Buzz left. It's his job to know this stuff, and I think he knows more than anyone on this board about it.

[Avenue Commons]

Except that there is no reason to post it, (I am pretty sure most people understand that), other than to rile up other posters just like his buddy was so exceptional at doing.

That's Chicos for sure. He went to Indiana for grad school and is a big IU supporter.

[smrunner99]

I had to get in on this eventually...  

I heard Buzz and the BOT are pitted against each other over how to practice free throws.  

[Henry Sugar]

Except that there is no reason to post it, (I am pretty sure most people understand that), other than to rile up other posters just like his buddy was so exceptional at doing.

As opposed to all the other posts in this thread that were added for perfectly good reason?

[spiral97]

MUMac72, thank you very much

Fixed.  Semi-permanently.

[Hoopaloop]

Thinking back on it, that line is brilliant! No matter when or where he leaves, he's already set it up so that it was because "they" won't have him anymore. It's gold, Jerry! Gold!

Might be Gold, but it is also crap.  They are paying him $2.6 million to have the reigns of a Big East school.  That is a huge commitment and more than saying they will have him.  If certain types of kids are of concern to the university and Buzz feels that he has to leave because of that, then that is Buzz's choice. MU has won here and will win again.  They are hardly putting restrictions on him that prevent him from winning.  Buzz is going to have a hard time winning that PR battle that MU would only pay him $2.6 million a year, the 2nd largest budget in the country, chartered flights, 2nd largest recruiting budget in the conference, and then claim MU didn't want him because they weren't willing to sacrifice some for a handful of recruits, especially in light of the bad PR the university has received.  That won't fly with many alumni.

I would hate to see him leave, but that's not an argument he wins in my opinion.

[hairy worthen]

As opposed to all the other posts in this thread that were added for perfectly good reason?

awesome, lets add a crean, chicos/hoopaloop discussion to this thread, why not we have just about everything else.

[Hoopaloop]

Thanks for the rationale, Chicos!

The humor never ends.

Don't forget this and the smiley face   http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777.1000    

[Hoopaloop]

Except that there is no reason to post it, (I am pretty sure most people understand that), other than to rile up other posters just like his buddy was so exceptional at doing.

It is clear that most people don't understand it if 4 years later they are still bringing it up.  It couldn't be any more clear. 

[MileHigh]

 They want buzz...the end

[AZWarrior]

awesome, lets add a crean, chicos/hoopaloop discussion to this thread, why not we have just about everything else.

Bigfoot just walked through my parking lot.

[mufansince72]

If this happens, I won't be bitching about lack of fan support at the BC for Tuesday night games anymore.  We wouldn't be able to fill the Al with the backlash that would occur.  

[hairy worthen]

It is clear that most people don't understand it if 4 years later they are still bringing it up.  It couldn't be any more clear. 

Im not biting, besides you brought it up most recently

[Hoopaloop]

Totally agree.  The SMU trolls have been top notch.

Said the same thing yesterday.  They have played most people here to epic proportions.  He isn't going anywhere.  If he does go, then he looks petty and we move on.  Three of our last 4 coaches took us to the Sweet 16. He has a crown jewel, millions of dollars, if he leaves it is on him.  I don't expect him to leave and do not want him to leave.  The sun will rise in the east again if he does.  WE ARE MARQUETTE did not become WE ARE BUZZ WILLIAMS LOYALISTS only.

Stay Buzz, you have a good thing going.  You can't keep quitting jobs every time you feel you aren't getting your way.  One time might be the exception. Two times becomes a pattern.

[Lennys Tap]

It wasn't about money.  We couldn't match the opportunity, the history, the tradition, the state school beloved by many in the state, the fertile recruiting grounds, the conference stability, the blueboodness of the program.  Matching money and term length is only one part.

It's Indiana, It's Indiana > It's Marquette.   I know people don't like to hear that, but this is fact.   At some point people here will accept this.  Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, Kansas, Duke matching money isn't going to get it done.

Bluebloodness? Really? I used to help a friend of mine from the engineering school with his English papers. Who wrote yours?

[Lighthouse 84]

As opposed to all the other posts in this thread that were added for perfectly good reason?

I was just about to post something about you using Henry Sugar's avatar of Rob Lowe/Drew Peterson....but you ARE Henry Sugar!  What's the deal with that?

[Hoopaloop]

That's Chicos for sure. He went to Indiana for grad school and is a big IU supporter.

  If Crean went to Kentucky as was rumored a few years ago, I would make the same statement.  It's Kentucky, It's Kentucky > It's Marquette.

You cannot just match money, there are programs in which money is not the reason you go.

I did not go to Indiana, the thought makes my skin crawl.

[PonyFanz]

I know nothing, just speculating as no one in their right mind would go to SMU right now for at least double their salary and lot's of promises.  If they want Buzz, they will have to pony up unheard of dollars.  

That is the plan. If we get Williams, it is NOT JUST ABOUT BASKETBALL.  For almost 20 years, SMU has been investing in improving the academics, the facilities, and student life on campus.  All the old buildings were renovated and new buildings were built.

We started with FB. We overpaid to hire a coach who had coached his team to the Sugar Bowl. 5 years later, we managed to get out from under our CUSA/MWC fate.  Next up is our BB program.  If we get Williams, it will cost a fortune but it is part of the overall plan for the school.

In 10 years, SMU wants to be more like Vandy, Wake Forrest, Northwestern and BC, To do that, we need to offer BCS level programs in FB and BB.  

[MUUWUWM]

 INDYWARRIOR....Thanks for the update
Please keep us posted.

[mviale]

That is the plan. If we get Williams, it is NOT JUST ABOUT BASKETBALL.  For almost 20 years, SMU has been investing in improving the academics, the facilities, and student life on campus.  All the old buildings were renovated and new buildings were built.

We started with FB. We overpaid to hire a coach who had coached his team to the Sugar Bowl. 5 years later, we managed to get out from under our CUSA/MWC fate.  Next up is our BB program.  If we get Williams, it will cost a fortune but it is part of the overall plan for the school.

In 10 years, SMU wants to be more like Vandy, Wake Forrest, Northwestern and BC, To do that, we need to offer BCS level programs in FB and BB.  

The state of Texas is laughing.

[Henry Sugar]

I was just about to post something about you using Henry Sugar's avatar of Rob Lowe/Drew Peterson....but you ARE Henry Sugar!  What's the deal with that?

<shrugs>  no real reason.  just kinda felt like mixing it up.

[The Special Brew]

And where, exactly, have these super-rich alum been the past three decades?
Did they just recently decide they care about winning?
Or did they recently learn that they're super rich?

My guess is a little of all three. It's not known as a bball school. Trying to reclimb the football ladder (not that June Jones or whoever is the coach there is one to do it) and stop the 'death penalty' stigma.

Personally, I think this whole thing is stupid for a multitude of reasons.