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GoMarquette32

Gottlieb said we are a 4 unless teams lose. Teams behind us that could potentially pass us on the s curve before tonight we're g town, Baylor, Michigan, indiana, Wisconsin, And Notre Dame. G town lost. Baylor will probably lose to kansas.  Wisconsin plays Indiana so one of them will lose. Should probably cheer for Wisconsin but I can't get myself to do that. Hopefully Minnesota upsets Michigan. Pull for South Florida against ND tonight(a given). And cheer for Louisville to make a run so that loss look better. All in all, I think we will stay at a 3 but the committee always seems to screw us so who knows.

brewcity77

Still a 3. Gottlieb is talking out of his rear, like usual. I still think Baylor has to beat KU to get on the 3 line. They've been awful of late, and KSU isn't enough to really prop them up. GT is behind us, either IU or UW will stay behind us, unless Michigan and IU/UW play in the Big Ten final, and Baylor beats Kansas, and someone else jumps up, we stay a 3. It doesn't feel like it after a loss, but us dropping to the 4-line would be a huge drop.

GoMarquette32

And I know I'm looking for the light at the end of the tunnel but maybe extra rest will be good for this team.

GoMarquette32

Another thought...would it be better to start Gardner then if crowder gets in foul trouble wilson can come in for crowder.

Norm

My guess is MU winds up a 4 seed. And in the West bracket.

GoMarquette32

Why is that? What team do u think pass them?

MUWarrior11

Funny that as recently as a week ago. some people thought we were a 2 seed with a chance of being a 1. Now we Are right on the 3/4 line. Which is very respectable, job well done by MU.

But it's the same story every year..people puttin their MU shades on and thinking that the rest of the country (and the selection committee) will view our team like we do. Let's not get carried away- we aren't on the level of UNC/Kentucky/cues/ Kansas etc. so let's stop talking like we are!

If there's one good thing about the last three games, it's that we don't have to listen to any more of this "we can be a 1 seed" or "we will be a 2 seed" stuff. Team has been great, top 15 for sure and a lot to be proud of

GoMarquette32

You don't think we're better than g town, Norte dame, Michigan, Baylor, Indiana and wiscosnin. I sure do.

wadesworld

Quote from: MUWarrior11 on March 08, 2012, 11:26:24 PM
Funny that as recently as a week ago. some people thought we were a 2 seed with a chance of being a 1. Now we Are right on the 3/4 line. Which is very respectable, job well done by MU.

But it's the same story every year..people puttin their MU shades on and thinking that the rest of the country (and the selection committee) will view our team like we do. Let's not get carried away- we aren't on the level of UNC/Kentucky/cues/ Kansas etc. so let's stop talking like we are!

If there's one good thing about the last three games, it's that we don't have to listen to any more of this "we can be a 1 seed" or "we will be a 2 seed" stuff. Team has been great, top 15 for sure and a lot to be proud of

What is funny is that most (if not all) people were saying that IF we had WON OUT we WOULD BE a 1 seed. Not that we WERE a 1 seed. I don't think too many, if any, people were saying we actually were going to win out. But IF we had we would have been a 1 seed.

Illinois was once thought to be a top 4 seed this year. Where are they now? Things change over the course of a very long season. Team's resumes change. Hindsight is always 20/20.

MUWarrior11

Hindsight is 20/20, true. I suppose what I meant to say is that it baffled me how many people seemed convinced that we could/would win out. I guess the simplest way to say what I'm trying to say is that we often get carried away in our perception of our own team. Perhaps that's just in the nature of being a fan. We are a susceptible to this tendency.

And, to be fair, I've seen much, much worse in terms of fans being extreme homers. Overall I'd say we are a fairly level headed and realistic bunch here on scoop. Still, I'm happy this 1/2 seed crap is put to rest.

mufansince72

Right now I think we moved from being the #1 three seed to the #4 three seed.  That will change tomorrow as the winner of the Indiana/Wisconsin game will move up to the three line.  MU will end up being a four seed which is probably about right. 

GoMarquette32

Well I think it is a major deal if we get a 4 seed vs a 3 seed. It's all about avoiding one seeds and with a four we don't.

GoMarquette32

Quote from: mufansince72 on March 09, 2012, 12:02:03 AM
Right now I think we moved from being the #1 three seed to the #4 three seed.  That will change tomorrow as the winner of the Indiana/Wisconsin game will move up to the three line.  MU will end up being a four seed which is probably about right. 

Does gtown stay behind us?

mufansince72

Gtown stays behind us because we beat them in the last week and they lost today too. 

Mike Deane

We will be a high 4 (body of work as of late plus weaker BE).

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Mike Deane on March 09, 2012, 12:14:02 AM
We will be a high 4 (body of work as of late plus weaker BE).

Honestly, high/low 3/4 - I only really hope they get a location "close" to home, so it's easy for MU fans to show up.  I'm not even remotely in the area, but always nice to hear a good pro-MU crowd on TV.

GoMarquette32

Quote from: Mike Deane on March 09, 2012, 12:14:02 AM
We will be a high 4 (body of work as of late plus weaker BE).
Analys think we will be the last 3.

wadesworld

Quote from: Mike Deane on March 09, 2012, 12:14:02 AM
We will be a high 4 (body of work as of late plus weaker BE).

Body of work as of late? We lost a true road game to a top 6 seed and a neutral court game to a top 6 seed. We're entering the tournament having won 12/15 games, with quite a few against tournament teams, a couple of those on the road. Our body of work as of late is very strong. They aren't just going to consider the last 3 games.

BM1090

We will be a 3 seed. Not even that close to a 4 to be honest. We were the top 3 seed before tonight and much closer to a 2 than a 4. It wasn't even debatable if any of the teams projected behind us could possibly be projected in front of us.

Unless Indiana or UW plays Michigan in the big ten final and Baylor wins the big 12 tournament we will be a 3. Even if that all happens we will still probably be a three. We still have ZERO bad losses. Every other team (minus Baylor) has at least 2 or 3

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Quote from: MUWarrior11 on March 09, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
Hindsight is 20/20, true. I suppose what I meant to say is that it baffled me how many people seemed convinced that we could/would win out. I guess the simplest way to say what I'm trying to say is that we often get carried away in our perception of our own team. Perhaps that's just in the nature of being a fan. We are a susceptible to this tendency.

And, to be fair, I've seen much, much worse in terms of fans being extreme homers. Overall I'd say we are a fairly level headed and realistic bunch here on scoop. Still, I'm happy this 1/2 seed crap is put to rest.
The main takeaway is that nobody on here really knows what the hell they're talking about, and they overreact.
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MUMac

Quote from: mufansince72 on March 09, 2012, 12:02:03 AM
Right now I think we moved from being the #1 three seed to the #4 three seed.  That will change tomorrow as the winner of the Indiana/Wisconsin game will move up to the three line.  MU will end up being a four seed which is probably about right. 
UW is far below on the RPI and MU beat them at UW.  Both Indiana and Wisconsin have bad losses to Iowa.  Just don't see either making a 3, especially UW.

brewcity77

I just published a new S-Curve on CS, and still have Marquette as the top 3-seed. Georgetown lost, so they don't pass us. Neither did an idle Michigan. Indiana beating Penn State does nothing for me. The only teams close to us that had significant wins were Baylor and Louisville, but neither of those wins were enough to pass us by.

Baylor is generally seen as a 3-seed, but they have only 1 top-25 win and are 6-4 in their past 10. Despite the win over KSU, they simply haven't impressed much of late. If they beat Kansas today, they will almost certainly move back up to the 3-line, but they've given no indication all year that they can actually beat a team of that caliber.

Louisville may have beaten us, but that only evens the season series. Their RPI, total losses, and that bad loss to Providence still keep them below us.

It isn't impossible that we drop off the 3-line, but it would take quite a bit. We have to go from 9 to 13. GT can't pass us. Indiana or Wisconsin would have to make the Big 10 final, and for Wisconsin, they might have to win the Big 10. Michigan would also have to make the Big 10 final. Baylor would have to beat Kansas. Louisville or Notre Dame would have to win the Big East. If all of those happen, we drop to a 4. But that's asking a lot.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Lunardi has MU 11th on his newest S-Curve. GTown is 12 and Indiana and Wisconsin are 13 and 14, respectively. I think we're pretty safe as far as the 3 seed goes. Baylor and Michigan are 9 and 10, and Baylor is most likely going to lose today.
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Goose

Hanging on to three...hope chalk wins rest of the weekend

brewcity77

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 09, 2012, 10:40:57 AMLunardi has MU 11th on his newest S-Curve. GTown is 12 and Indiana and Wisconsin are 13 and 14, respectively. I think we're pretty safe as far as the 3 seed goes. Baylor and Michigan are 9 and 10, and Baylor is most likely going to lose today.

Agreed. I still think we're higher than Lunardi has us (I really think he overrates Baylor), but I think Indiana and Wisconsin need two wins to pass us by, while Florida State probably need to make the ACC final and Louisville would have to win the Big East. Anyone lower won't be passing us.

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