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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 10/11/19  (Read 279031 times)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1175 on: December 10, 2018, 12:20:40 PM »
Someone voted for NJIT?!?!?!

9-2, no good wins, losses to Cornell and UMass-Lowell by 13 and 23, respectively.

Keep this in mind when you think about rankings.  Having a vote in the AP poll does not mean one is a qualified basketball expert.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1177 on: December 10, 2018, 12:31:55 PM »
Surprising number of Pollsters didn't put us in after two top 15 wins

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/2018

A few of these guys have KState and UW ranked and didn't include us wtf?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1178 on: December 10, 2018, 12:35:00 PM »
21 pretty fair

Kentucky at 19 still is funny tho.

Not sure ASU has done much outside of only losing once to a great team

I agree that ASU is overrated but they did beat a top 15 Mississippi State. Their game at San Francisco got delayed.  Would have been interesting to see how they did against a decent mig major on the road.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1179 on: December 10, 2018, 12:36:39 PM »
Surprising number of Pollsters didn't put us in after two top 15 wins

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/2018

A few of these guys have KState and UW ranked and didn't include us wtf?


For the most part, the ballots we missed on are largely... very bad.  That's being nice.  Worst offender I've found: Jesse Newell
« Last Edit: December 10, 2018, 12:44:40 PM by UWW2MU »

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1180 on: December 10, 2018, 12:39:49 PM »
Surprising number of Pollsters didn't put us in after two top 15 wins

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/2018

A few of these guys have KState and UW ranked and didn't include us wtf?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1181 on: December 10, 2018, 12:41:15 PM »
Surprising number of Pollsters didn't put us in after two top 15 wins

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/2018

A few of these guys have KState and UW ranked and didn't include us wtf?

John Wilner had us at 19 last week and dropped us to 20 after our two wins this week lol.

Definitely not concerned but very clear some of these guys don't pay much attention to things. Seth Davis is a guy who I don't like much but it's clear he spends a lot of time on his poll every week and I appreciate that.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1182 on: December 10, 2018, 12:45:15 PM »

For the most part, the ballots we missed on are for the most part... very bad.  That's being nice.  Worst offender I've found: Jesse Newell


You should look at Graham Couchs top 25. He has us ranked at 20, but the rest is trash, starting with not having Duke, Kansas and Tennessee ranked.....
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1183 on: December 10, 2018, 12:47:47 PM »

You should look at Graham Couchs top 25. He has us ranked at 20, but the rest is trash, starting with not having Duke, Kansas and Tennessee ranked.....

He moved Wisconsin up 5 spots this week.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1184 on: December 10, 2018, 01:17:09 PM »

You should look at Graham Couchs top 25. He has us ranked at 20, but the rest is trash, starting with not having Duke, Kansas and Tennessee ranked.....

Read his article.  He's simply making a point about putting your team out there on the road once or twice.  It's December.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1185 on: December 10, 2018, 01:17:51 PM »
Read his article.  He's simply making a point about putting your team out there on the road once or twice.  It's December.


Oh.  I thought he was perhaps a HS intern whose parents took away his WiFi and TV last week.


EDIT: I read the article.  His point has merit, though I don't think it's valid.  It's a good thing he's not an odds-maker or every home team would start with 20 points.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2018, 01:23:19 PM by Benny B »
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1186 on: December 10, 2018, 01:18:51 PM »
Did not make the coaches poll. Most points of others receiving votes though. Coaches still have Badgers 19 and K State 24. Maybe they didn't get the memo about us winning.

Seems like the Johnnies are being dissed by both the AP and the Coaches .

Buffalo needs to beat Southern Illinois and  Syracuse so they come into our game undefeated and  ranked.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1187 on: December 10, 2018, 01:19:30 PM »
Read his article.  He's simply making a point about putting your team out there on the road once or twice.  It's December.

That's up there with the "I didn't vote for Maddux because no one should be unanimous" garbage. You are given a privilege to vote--act like it is one.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1188 on: December 10, 2018, 01:20:12 PM »
Andy Katz has MU at 13

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1189 on: December 10, 2018, 01:20:27 PM »
Did not make the coaches poll. Most points of others receiving votes though. Coaches still have Badgers 19 and K State 24. Maybe they didn't get the memo about us winning.

Seems like the Johnnies are being dissed by both the AP and the Coaches .

Buffalo needs to beat Southern Illinois and  Syracuse so they come into our game undefeated and  ranked.

Things are about to ramp up for Buffalo.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1190 on: December 10, 2018, 01:20:41 PM »

You should look at Graham Couchs top 25. He has us ranked at 20, but the rest is trash, starting with not having Duke, Kansas and Tennessee ranked.....

He wrote an article on it that supports e why he did so and I think it's a fine opinion. He refuses to rank teams that haven't played on the road because he asserts they are effectively playing a different game. He also says he treats each week separately and reevaluates them all, so once they do play on the road, they will go to their deserving position, be it in the top-5 or anywhere else.

https://amp.lansingstatejournal.com/amp/2264942002?__twitter_impression=true

The best part was this:

Quote from: Graham Couch
If you disagree, feel free to email me (gcouch@lsj.com) or tweet at me (@Graham_Couch), but do so only after you email or tweet at your spineless coach, whose fear of the road makes my point. Or whose arrogance deserves to be admonished.

I can respect that.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1191 on: December 10, 2018, 01:22:14 PM »
Did not make the coaches poll. Most points of others receiving votes though. Coaches still have Badgers 19 and K State 24. Maybe they didn't get the memo about us winning.

Seems like the Johnnies are being dissed by both the AP and the Coaches .

Buffalo needs to beat Southern Illinois and  Syracuse so they come into our game undefeated and  ranked.

I will say it: I don't get Iowa ranked. They beat who...a disappointing Oregon team?
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1192 on: December 10, 2018, 01:22:59 PM »
That's up there with the "I didn't vote for Maddux because no one should be unanimous" garbage. You are given a privilege to vote--act like it is one.

What brew said.  I've got no problem with him.  And was simply correcting any erroneous assumption that he doesn't know what he's talking about by not including Duke, etc.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1193 on: December 10, 2018, 01:24:57 PM »
He wrote an article on it that supports e why he did so and I think it's a fine opinion. He refuses to rank teams that haven't played on the road because he asserts they are effectively playing a different game. He also says he treats each week separately and reevaluates them all, so once they do play on the road, they will go to their deserving position, be it in the top-5 or anywhere else.

https://amp.lansingstatejournal.com/amp/2264942002?__twitter_impression=true

The best part was this:

I can respect that.

No, its a stupid opinion.  He is overvaluing home court advantage.  Pure and simple.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1194 on: December 10, 2018, 01:26:35 PM »
Not really.   How did MU play in their one true road game versus how they played at home in back to back Saturdays against ranked teams?     Road games are rough.    And he is covering one of the true road game warriors, Izzo.   
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1195 on: December 10, 2018, 01:29:04 PM »
I will say it: I don't get Iowa ranked. They beat who...a disappointing Oregon team?

And Iowa State.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1196 on: December 10, 2018, 01:36:19 PM »
I will say it: I don't get Iowa ranked. They beat who...a disappointing Oregon team?

After watching the Iowa-ISU game last week, I'm not surprised to see them in the rankings. I think they'll make some noise in the Big Ten this year. The win against Oregon may be a bit inflated, but convincing wins over UConn and ISU have to be carrying some weight right now.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1197 on: December 10, 2018, 01:40:47 PM »
And Iowa State.

Who has lost to a bad Arizona team and hasn't really beat anyone.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1198 on: December 10, 2018, 02:02:18 PM »
The fact that we are not ranked in over 25% of the polls is a little ridiculous. I get it is early and the numbers at this point don't matter but I feel like these people need to hold themselves a little more accountable to stay up to date on this
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 12/10/18
« Reply #1199 on: December 10, 2018, 02:08:18 PM »

For the most part, the ballots we missed on are largely... very bad.  That's being nice.  Worst offender I've found: Jesse Newell

Looking at his twitter bio, he bases it off of KenPom.  Comparing the two, they are very similar. 
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