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Canadian Dimes

Maybe this is why Buzz is keeping the open scholarship?

I have become aware of a player at a Top BCS conference that may be available.  His stats:

Sophomore.  thru 5 games of this year his stats are follows:

12.2 ppg, 51% FG %, 38% 3p fg %, 76% Ft %, 4.0 a/pg, 2.2 steals/gm and 2.2 reb./game.

Also he is an outstanding athlete and broke the schools all-time agility record.

Anyone think this guy might turn out to be a really good player and we should be interested?

what the fulce?

only if his name is Vander Blue

MisterJaylenBrownMU

Wow, Dimes, he cracked your code in under 5 minutes.   ::)

Canadian Dimes

well hopefully the posters of this morning and others will realize the stupidity of their posts from last night and this morning. 

ringout

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 22, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
Maybe this is why Buzz is keeping the open scholarship?

I have become aware of a player at a Top BCS conference that may be available.  His stats:

Sophomore.  thru 5 games of this year his stats are follows:

12.2 ppg, 51% FG %, 38% 3p fg %, 76% Ft %, 4.0 a/pg, 2.2 steals/gm and 2.2 reb./game.

Also he is an outstanding athlete and broke the schools all-time agility record.

Anyone think this guy might turn out to be a really good player and we should be interested?

I think we should be all over such a player, and we should be even happier if we had a guy just like this.   ;)

MUMac

It seems that MU has it's share of players who some fans have a burr up their butt for no matter what they do.  Others who qualified off the top of my head, were Scott Merritt and Dominic James.  In both those instances, as I have witnessed, the player left MU with less than positive feelings about MU.  Much due to the comments of the "fans".

Really sad to see people tear into one of our own.  If I were a player or parent, I certainly would wonder why I would want (or have my son attend) MU.

MU B2002

Am I missing something, I have never heard Dom say anything derogatory about MU fans and their treatment of him.
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MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MUMac on November 22, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
It seems that MU has it's share of players who some fans have a burr up their butt for no matter what they do.  Others who qualified off the top of my head, were Scott Merritt and Dominic James.  In both those instances, as I have witnessed, the player left MU with less than positive feelings about MU.  Much due to the comments of the "fans".

Really sad to see people tear into one of our own.  If I were a player or parent, I certainly would wonder why I would want (or have my son attend) MU.

I do agree with you about Merritt and DJ getting a lot of flak (and I'd throw Buycks in there as well) but this is not a Marquette-only issue. It happens just about everywhere. For some reason, there are always going to be fans who need to find a whipping boy for their team's problems.

MUMac

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 22, 2011, 01:56:53 PM
I do agree with you about Merritt and DJ getting a lot of flak (and I'd throw Buycks in there as well) but this is not a Marquette-only issue. It happens just about everywhere. For some reason, there are always going to be fans who need to find a whipping boy for their team's problems.


You are correct and I forgot Buycks (how could that happen).  I did not mean to imply this was a MU exclusive, although I see that is exactly how it read.  It is part of fandom.  I just think, and maybe it is due to being so close to it, that it is an extreme here.  One poor offensive showing yesterday and all the hens are out of the henhouse.  Forget the games prior to that.  We must start a thread titled "Biggest Disappointment" in honor of him.

It does sicken me to see the attitudes of many on this board.  Just as it did with Merritt, DJ and Buycks before him.

Clam Crowder

So wait is this just a pointless post? or is Vander actually considering a transfer?

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: MU B2002 on November 22, 2011, 01:48:37 PM
Am I missing something, I have never heard Dom say anything derogatory about MU fans and their treatment of him.

that is because he is a class act

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 22, 2011, 01:56:53 PM
I do agree with you about Merritt and DJ getting a lot of flak (and I'd throw Buycks in there as well) but this is not a Marquette-only issue. It happens just about everywhere. For some reason, there are always going to be fans who need to find a whipping boy for their team's problems.



well then by all means we should continue to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lab_warrior

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 22, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
Maybe this is why Buzz is keeping the open scholarship?

I have become aware of a player at a Top BCS conference that may be available.  His stats:

Sophomore.  thru 5 games of this year his stats are follows:

12.2 ppg, 51% FG %, 38% 3p fg %, 76% Ft %, 4.0 a/pg, 2.2 steals/gm and 2.2 reb./game.

Also he is an outstanding athlete and broke the schools all-time agility record.

Anyone think this guy might turn out to be a really good player and we should be interested?

Pretty sure this guy will come in really hyped (by some metric that is almost COMPLETELY ARBITRARY), we'll get our expectations way out of proportion, then lose "patience" and pounce on him if he has one bad game (out of 10-12) or stretch of games, because that shouldn't happen!  He should be totally mature and ready for D1 NCAA basketball as an 18/19 year old. 

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: jhags15 on November 22, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
So wait is this just a pointless post? or is Vander actually considering a transfer?


vander is considering transferring to Marquette

Canadian Dimes

Quote from: lab_warrior on November 22, 2011, 02:19:19 PM
Pretty sure this guy will come in really hyped (by some metric that is almost COMPLETELY ARBITRARY), we'll get our expectations way out of proportion, then lose "patience" and pounce on him if he has one bad game (out of 10-12) or stretch of games, because that shouldn't happen!  He should be totally mature and ready for D1 NCAA basketball as an 18/19 year old. 


buzz had some funny tongue in cheek comments during the fall about how the MU fans last year were grateful that the current NBA collective bargaining agreement did not allow for kids to go to the NBA out of HS or Vander would never have gone to MU.
 
he went on to say vander was 17 and adjusting to the Big East was incredible and he was really good and worked really hard and had a great future ahead of him and that he never played freshman but Vnader was so good he got to play.

Fast forward to this year and a day after he scores 26 points he misses a few layups yet does everything else wonderfully and a number of self-entitled "fans" start a "biggest Dissapointment" string and proceed to rip him.  Character revealed. 

Clam Crowder

Vander looks SO much better than last year, Let's not get on him for one bad game...

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Quote from: jhags15 on November 22, 2011, 02:06:52 PM
So wait is this just a pointless post? or is Vander actually considering a transfer?
This was just Dimes's way of pointing out that everyone should be happier than a pig in slop that the Warriors have someone with stats like Vander's and those who are bashing him should STFU.  

I agree VB's stats are good through 5 games and that he looks much improved.  That doesn't mean he should be able to disappear during an entire game and/or play poorly and we can't bitch about his performance.  But Vander has played well 4 out of 5 games so far.
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Blue has been excellent, and a game like last night tells me that he still has some growing to do with regards to finishing after contact with a future NBA big.  Not surprising for a sophomore in my book.

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Vander played like crap yesterday when it came to actually make his shot and getting the ball across half court. With that you can still see his improvement. His drives are so much better and his passing in the lanes is a real nice sight, sadly for him Otule and even Jae miss them an awful lot.
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Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 22, 2011, 02:19:49 PM

vander is considering transferring to Marquette

Will he have to sit out a year?
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Quote from: jhags15 on November 22, 2011, 02:29:22 PM
Vander looks SO much better than last year, Let's not get on him for one bad game...

Yes, that is the point of the thread.  People focus on the points, and they are important.  But, Vander did not have an awful game yesterday.  Even offensively, he created opportunities.  He had some beautiful passes for points to Gardner (a few times) and Crowder who, if he wasn't trying to boost his rebounding stats, would have made the easy bucket the first attempt. 

ErickJD08

Quote from: Canadian Dimes on November 22, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
Maybe this is why Buzz is keeping the open scholarship?

I have become aware of a player at a Top BCS conference that may be available.  His stats:

Sophomore.  thru 5 games of this year his stats are follows:

12.2 ppg, 51% FG %, 38% 3p fg %, 76% Ft %, 4.0 a/pg, 2.2 steals/gm and 2.2 reb./game.

Also he is an outstanding athlete and broke the schools all-time agility record.

Anyone think this guy might turn out to be a really good player and we should be interested?

Can he make a layup?  Kinda important.
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Quote from: ErickJD08 on November 22, 2011, 03:26:52 PM
Can he make a layup?  Kinda important.

He was 0-5 from close range with at least two if not three of those shots hitting some combination of backboard and rim at least 3 times.  Call it bad luck, but he has proven he can hit this year.  If Vander isn't in the game the last 4 minutes we probably lose.
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Quote from: jhags15 on November 22, 2011, 02:29:22 PM
Vander looks SO much better than last year, Let's not get on him for one bad game...

And even in that one bad game, he was composed enough to win the game at the end with the steal, behind the back dribble and assist to break the tie.

I ambworried about his potential struggle against the badgers defense, but not the rest of the year.
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Quote from: ErickJD08 on November 22, 2011, 03:26:52 PM
Can he make a layup?  Kinda important.

Yeah, because Wade/Novak/Diener/Hutchins/Wardle/Lee/Meninger/Thompson/Butler/Hayward/Matthews never had an off-game or missed a layup.    ::)    Jeeeeezzz.   Anybody who doesn't see that Blue has improved is blind or doesn't know basketball.
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