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Dish

How the hell did they not let McQueary go tonight? Seriously, how? There is zero chance he is on the field Saturday, no f'n way.

Dish

Rumor is another major allegation to be announed between now and Saturday.

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Quote from: MUDish on November 09, 2011, 11:20:40 PM
Rumor is another major allegation to be announed between now and Saturday.


I'm guessing Sandusky wasn't the only predator and The Second Mile was their farm of boys.

ATWizJr

Let the wrongful termination lawsuits commence.

4everwarriors

Quote from: marqptm on November 09, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
I'm guessing Sandusky wasn't the only predator and The Second Mile was their farm of boys.


You're not sayin' JoePa was double dippin' too, now, are ya?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUMac

Quote from: MUBurrow on November 09, 2011, 10:07:13 PM
Either:
A) Board just wants to completely clean house as quickly as possible and stop having the Nittany Lion on ESPN behind everyone implicated, or
B) Board knows what JoePa has to say in that press conference that never happened and it isn't good/different than many of the conclusions out there right now

Or both.

A 3rd possible reason.  Joe Pa's announcement forced the BOT hands.  The fact he went to the press with this as a preemptive strike and without the agreement of the BOT showed arrogance on his part.  He felt he, because of who he is, could control his destiny.  When he said they don't need to worry about him, they have more important things to worry about, that was a slap to the BOT.  After I heard that, I knew the BOT had no other option.

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Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 10, 2011, 04:54:23 AM

You're not sayin' JoePa was double dippin' too, now, are ya?

Not JoePa, I don't think he's really all there anymore to really know/care what's going on outside of football.

Just seems like a lot of work to cover for Sandusky, and seems like there's more.

MU_LOL

Quote from: nyg on November 09, 2011, 09:43:59 PM
The Board of Trustees just fired Paterno and the President.

The pre-emptive strike by Paterno announcing his retirement earlier in the day backfired.

House cleaning completed?  Who knows. 

The Department of Education will now send in their Inspector General agents for federal violations in non-reporting of criminal acts.

What a mess........

Next will be recruits bailing out.


Is PSU obligated to provide a severance package since he was fired and didn't "retire" or "quit"? Not that he needs one, but, you know.
I'm Ron Burgundy?

ecompt

Our guy who covers PSU is hearing there could be at least 20 cases of sexual abuse before this is all done. Every penny from PSU football tickets could be going to pay lawsuits for the next 20 years. When is The Big Ten Network going to run weekly specials on all the scandals at all its schools?

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: MUDish on November 09, 2011, 11:20:40 PM
Rumor is another major allegation to be announed between now and Saturday.


I have no idea what that may be, but I think the other thing people who are questioning this, or considering it some sort of rush to judgement need to account for is the fact that Sandusky 'retired' in '99 at age 55, seemingly at the top of his game in the prime of his career, while the then current head coach was already in his 70's. If you are willfully naive enough to conclude that the timing of that decision was merely coincidence given the shower incident of '98, then I would suggest that it may be time to get back on the turnip truck.

You also have to account for the incidents that took place in the three years between '99 and the shower incident in 2002 and beyond, and convince yourself that nobody at PSU knew what was going on. Particularly given how they handled things in 2002 when they effectively said, "just don't do it here." My disgust level unfortunately continues to go up on this, even sitting here thinking about/typing that.

Dish

Marqptm hit the nail right on the head. My family is from eastern PA, and both they (and I) have heard from multiple reports/sources that the next allegation is the Second Chance program served more or less as a "pimp" to farm out young boys to wealthy donors.

Dish

Also meant to say, there can't possibly be any way that game gets played Saturday, at least not played in State College (in my opinion).

If for no other reason than you're basically inviting an angry mob of people into a confined enviornment, and safety of fans/players/locals is at risk.

Perhaps if the PSU administration handled this in a more swift and decisve manner, but after what happened there last night, there's no way they can control a crowd of 100,000+ in approx 48 hours from now.

GGGG

Quote from: ATWizJr on November 09, 2011, 11:45:04 PM
Let the wrongful termination lawsuits commence.

There's not a chance of that happening.  In Paterno's case, his contract was up at the end of this year.  They'll pay him.  The AD and Sr VP, and likely the President, are at-will employees with back up positions.  They'll pay them the back up money.

Hards Alumni

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Quote from: MUDish on November 10, 2011, 08:17:50 AM
Marqptm hit the nail right on the head. My family is from eastern PA, and both they (and I) have heard from multiple reports/sources that the next allegation is the Second Chance program served more or less as a "pimp" to farm out young boys to wealthy donors.

holy crap-balls.

http://audio.weei.com/a/48513317/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal-and-drops-a-new-bomb-about-jerry-sandusky.htm

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: MUDish on November 10, 2011, 08:17:50 AM
Marqptm hit the nail right on the head. My family is from eastern PA, and both they (and I) have heard from multiple reports/sources that the next allegation is the Second Chance program served more or less as a "pimp" to farm out young boys to wealthy donors.

That might be the worst thing I've ever heard. No offense, MUDish, but I pray to God that your sources are wrong.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: MUDish on November 10, 2011, 08:17:50 AM
Marqptm hit the nail right on the head. My family is from eastern PA, and both they (and I) have heard from multiple reports/sources that the next allegation is the Second Chance program served more or less as a "pimp" to farm out young boys to wealthy donors.

I pray that is the trumped up rumor version and that it is far less serious than that. Good Lord.

Dish

I know Mark Madden has been reporting it, I heard it from another report as well.

I think we can all agree that hopefully this rumor is 100% wrong. It literally made me sick to my stomach when I heard it.

NavinRJohnson

Well, we will find out, because you know damn well Sandusky is singing like a canary.

mu03eng

If thats true, and I pray it isn't, Matt Millen is going to have a lot of questions to answer himself because he sits on the board of 2nd Mile.  I'll be curious to see how ESPN goes after one of their own.



"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

GGGG

Quote from: mu03eng on November 10, 2011, 09:24:02 AM
If thats true, and I pray it isn't, Matt Millen is going to have a lot of questions to answer himself because he sits on the board of 2nd Mile.  I'll be curious to see how ESPN goes after one of their own.


And there will be some personal liability as a Director as well.  If this rumor is true, PSU may have to suspend their athletic department for years.

ATWizJr

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 10, 2011, 08:32:07 AM
There's not a chance of that happening.  In Paterno's case, his contract was up at the end of this year.  They'll pay him.  The AD and Sr VP, and likely the President, are at-will employees with back up positions.  They'll pay them the back up money.
Which, in effect, is why the wrongful termination lawsuits wouild be filed in the first place.  They might just buy them out up front instead of going to court.

Bieberhole69

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 10, 2011, 09:26:14 AM

And there will be some personal liability as a Director as well.  If this rumor is true, PSU may have to suspend their athletic department for years.

He's an honorary member along with a pretty impressive list.  I doubt they have much to do with the organization other than putting some money behind it, which will still deserve some questions to be asked.

http://www.thesecondmile.org/ourTeam/bod/bodHono.php

Dish

Have to give Mark Madden some credit (I know most people don't like him), but he had the Sandusky story reported 6 months ago.

This new allegation/rumor seems to be gaining a lot of steam, quite sadly.


MUMac

Quote from: mu03eng on November 10, 2011, 09:24:02 AM
If thats true, and I pray it isn't, Matt Millen is going to have a lot of questions to answer himself because he sits on the board of 2nd Mile.  I'll be curious to see how ESPN goes after one of their own.

As someone else pointed out, he was not actually a member of the BOD.  He was listed on the "Honorary Board" with a significant group of others.  I doubt they would necessarily know if any illegal, unethical or morbid things were being done.

But, to Millen, he has been pretty downright angry about Sandusky, what happenned and how long it happenned.  He said if he had witnessed the shower incident, the article would have been about manslaughter as he would have taken Sandusky down himself.  While everything, every twist and turn, has surprised me, I would be SHOCKED if Millen would be implicated in any way.

GGGG

Quote from: Bieberhole69 on November 10, 2011, 09:38:37 AM
He's an honorary member along with a pretty impressive list.  I doubt they have much to do with the organization other than putting some money behind it, which will still deserve some questions to be asked.

http://www.thesecondmile.org/ourTeam/bod/bodHono.php



It literally depends on how "honorary" they are.  I can tell you this, if you are (or were) an elected board member with governance responsibility, you have to be shaking in your boots right now.  Because, while I am sure they had Director and Officer liability coverage, that coverage has limits.  And those lawsuits can be filed against you...personally.

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