2011-12 NFC North Division

[MUMac]

God Thompson has fugged up the Packs D.

let our one good pass rushing d lineman go.  

And that did what? 

[Blackhat]

no pressure, our secondary is getting shredded.  31st in pass defense.

[MUMac]

no pressure, our secondary is getting shredded.  31st in pass defense.

Oh, and they are 6-0.  Yeah, all TT's fault.

[Blackhat]

Oh, and they are 6-0.  Yeah, all TT's fault.

Rodgers and the O are awesome, no doubt.    But we keep playing this terrible of pass d we'll get some losses.

[lab_warrior]

Yeah, if the Pack had better D, they'd be EVEN MORE undefeated, defending SB champs. Yeesh, relax a little.

[Blackhat]

nothing wrong with pointing out the bad aspects of this team.   It may not be popular cause we're on a roll on O but TT still makes unwise off season decisions which has decreased our effectiveness on D this year.

[MUMac]

nothing wrong with pointing out the bad aspects of this team.   It may not be popular cause we're on a roll on O but TT still makes unwise off season decisions which has decreased our effectiveness on D this year.

His unwise decision was not knowing that Jenkins would not bet the huge contract.  He needed the cap space for Finley, used some on Lang and he had Neal waiting in the wings.  I guess it was TT's fault Neal got hurt.

The bigger problem is the injuries to the DB's.  Specifically Williams.  His injury has affected the game plan/play calling.  Now Shields is out because of his boneheaded play last week.  Plus, losing Collins has had a huge impact.

[Blackhat]

Neal was unproven at best, not sure how you could bank on him.   

Jenkins would be leading our team in sacks, he's still got juice.


To me, giving big $$$ to a kicker makes you scratch your head.    Lang is a dime a dozen player.

[MUMac]

Neal was unproven at best, not sure how you could bank on him.   

Jenkins would be leading our team in sacks, he's still got juice.


To me, giving big $$$ to a kicker makes you scratch your head.    Lang is a dime a dozen player.

Well, I can state unequivocally, that I trust the coaches opinions far more than yours.  Neal, they believe, is the real deal.  I see what they see.  You don't, but you also do not give TT and the organization any credit for making a decision - it's all bad in your eyes. 

Sit back and enjoy the games.  Man you are a debbie downer.

[Blackhat]

foolish to count on neal with his injury history dating all the way back to college.

[MUMac]

foolish to count on neal with his injury history dating all the way back to college.

Yeah, you're right.  FIRE TED THOMPSON.   

Enjoy the game.  Through with this foolishness of attempting to have a meaningful discussion with you.   

[Blackhat]

you need to calm down.

didn't say to fire thompson but i would appreciate it if he wouldn't dismantle our d. 

Lets just hope we don't keep making this  rookie look like John Elway in the second half.

[mugrad2006]

Every game this year the team has adjusted well and out played their opponents in the second half, and that includes the defense.  I'm sure Capers will come up with the right adjustments to marginalize a QB who he had NO pro tape on.

[tower912]

Not great, but still good.

No, not really.   Lucky to not be 3-4.    Poor offensive line play and lack of a running game has turned Stafford into Joey Harrington.    The vaunted defensive line has yet to really dominate a game.   3 step drops and play action neutralize them.   Improved, and I will be giddy if they turn it around, but I don't see them winning their second playoff game of my lifetime this season.

[mugrad2006]

Every game this year the team has adjusted well and out played their opponents in the second half, and that includes the defense.  I'm sure Capers will come up with the right adjustments to marginalize a QB who he had NO pro tape on.

I don't know how to figure out the stat, but I would bet even money that GB has the best +/- for PF/PA in the 2nd half this year.

[Blackhat]

Capers is damn good.  I'll fpr sure give TT props in that he hired the best OC/DC combo in the league.

[Jay Bee]

Don't hang your heads, Packer fans.  Yes, it was another close call, but the Vikings are almost 7-0.  You beat an excellent team today.  Good job.

[wadesworld]

Don't hang your heads, Packer fans.  Yes, it was another close call, but the Vikings are almost 7-0.  You beat an excellent team today.  Good job.

Haha.  How's "Erin" looking?  My guess is you'd bone him if given the opportunity.  Weird, considering you wouldn't do the same to Carrie Underwood.

Is there any question who the NFL MVP is?

[MU B2002]

Rogers, by a smidge over Brees.

[wadesworld]

Rogers, by a smidge over Brees.

Even after tonight's ridiculously embarrassing 62-7 win where Brees got 5 touchdowns, I'd still say it's Rodgers by a pretty wide margin.  So far:

Rodgers: 2,037 yards with a 70.3% completion % and a 9.75 yards per attempt with 17 touchdowns to just 3 interceptions and a 122.4 QB rating.  2 rushing touchdowns. 7-0 record.  1-0 against the Saints.

Brees: 2,152 yards with a 68.6% completion % and an 8.15 yards per attempt with 13 touchdowns to 8 interceptions and a 97.0 QB rating.  0 rushing touchdowns. 5-2 record.  0-1 against the Packers.

To me, it's not even close.  The only person who could make an argument at this point, in my opinion, is Peyton Manning.  Just say "Look at what we've done over the last decade up until this year with me behind center, and now look at our team without me behind center.  You don't think the Packers could win at least 1 game with Matt Flynn behind center?"  Obviously I'm not serious, but in some ways...

[GGGG]

Neal was unproven at best, not sure how you could bank on him.   

Jenkins would be leading our team in sacks, he's still got juice.

To me, giving big $$$ to a kicker makes you scratch your head.    Lang is a dime a dozen player.

I think you mean they gave an extension to Sitton - not Lang.  Lang I believe is still on his rookie deal.  Sitton is real good.

But I essentially agree with you that they miss Jenkins.  The question is whether or not it would have been worth tying up big money on him while they felt that they had a viable alternative in Neal.  But since the Packers run a 2-4-5 quite often, I think the real problem is the pass rush on the other side of Matthews.  We simply have not had production from the other OLB slot.

[MerrittsMustache]

Haha.  How's "Erin" looking?  My guess is you'd bone him if given the opportunity.  Weird, considering you wouldn't do the same to Carrie Underwood.

Is there any question who the NFL MVP is?

Can an entire offense win the MVP award? Rodgers is a very good QB, no doubt, but he gets a ton of time and always seems to be throwing to a wide open receiver. As a Bears fan, maybe I'm just bitter that my talented QB gets no time and has a RB as his only consistent weapon

[MU B2002]

As a Bears fan, maybe I'm just bitter that my talented QB gets no time and has a RB as his only consistent weapon

And don't forget the "big name WR" they added this offseason has yet to catch a ball cleanly.

[tower912]

MVP of the league is clearly Peyton Manning.    Apparently, he really WAS a one man team. 

[LON]

I think you mean they gave an extension to Sitton - not Lang.  Lang I believe is still on his rookie deal.  Sitton is real good.

But I essentially agree with you that they miss Jenkins.  The question is whether or not it would have been worth tying up big money on him while they felt that they had a viable alternative in Neal.  But since the Packers run a 2-4-5 quite often, I think the real problem is the pass rush on the other side of Matthews.  We simply have not had production from the other OLB slot.

Until Walden can start to consistently win his 1 on 1 matchups, Clay will get doubled or at the very least chipped by the RB or TE.  I think Matthews has been phenomenal this year although he doesn't have the sack numbers.  If only Walden could be the player he was at the end of last year...will Zombo be back any time soon?